Will Leopards delay cause hardware delays too?

incremental increases but nothing radical till leopard

i mentioned this earlier.

apple could have been waiting to release redesigned imacs in june along with leopard, but now that leopard has been put back to october, apple no longer have reason to hold back the hardware.

However it could work the other way, apple may decide to keep the same form factor and give it a minimal speed bump, in order to see it through till october to release new form factors along with leopard

To be honest, I don't know. We could see Santa Rosa Macs in may or june, or they could put everything off until October. With Apple you never know. Without a promise of a free upgrade to leopard, they're going to have a hard time selling them.

I wouldn't have a problem buy a Santa Rosa Macbook with Tiger.

Hardware doesn't change easily. The most important part of your computing environment is the hardware regarding longevity.

SR supporting Robson, faster FSB, and faster CPU and graphics is more important to me than saving $129 on an OS. If I was to wait 4 more months just to get Leopard how much productivity have I lost? That's $32 a month that I've saved. Is that really worth waiting?

My feeling is that because they are depriving their die-harders of the new OS, that they will give us the other thing we like so much... the hardware in advance of the OS. It only makes sense because not only does the hardware appeal to us die-harders but it also appeals to the switchers. What if macs come out in July that have Robson tech inside? You bet your ass I don't care if the 10.5 upgrade costs me $400(I know I'm being dramatic) I'll buy that MBP in July. I'm not updating my latest rev PowerBook till either A. the look changes or B. some incredible hardware advancement (Santa Rosa/Robson).

Man, this truly is really bad news. I'm a graduating highschool student and I was really looking forward to getting some sort of sweet new Apple machine for college (still haven't decided on which one, probably a laptop) and don't get me wrong, I'm sure the machines as of now are still freakin sweet.....it'd just be nice to have a top of the line new computer WHILE I still have some money in my pocket. Cause when college comes around.....I certainly won't be buying a computer for a LONG time.....and DEFINITELY won't have any money in my pocket. I was looking forward to having Leopard pre-installed though...cause I doubt I will have money for that now too when it comes out.

and October is after school starts....I certainly hope that the OS is the only thing that is delayed that late.

Because I'd be pretty frustrated to have them redesign there stuff JUST after the "back to school" season passes.

I'm sure they must have known an announcement like that would piss off ALOT of people. So....hopefully they will do some REALLY sweet redesigns and hardware upgrades before then to smack people in the face with?? I certainly hope so.

Here's to hoping they still have some sweet things in store for those of us that are buying a computer somewhere between May and July before school. Please...

For College odds are you need a laptop. A desktop isn't going to help you chilling out in your Dorm while you're in class. Once the new Centrino Pro hardware hits in May/June you can hop in and get your computer if you want a laptop. Remember you're a student so you may save a bit of money on OS X Leopard from the EDU portiion of the Apple Store.

Your primary objective should be getting solid hardware that will carry you through.

incremental increases but nothing radical till leopard

I have to agree with this assessment for numerous reasons.

I suspected new hardware designs right before the Mac switched to intel.
At that time it seemed that Apple decided to keep the old designs to make users feel more comfortable with the transition to intel, but that is way old news now.
I think the Mac Pro update being as limited as it is, is a sign that the next update is going to be a humdinger.
I'm expecting not only big hardware improvements, but new Mac designs across the board. What I think sucks is that Apple is really going to loose sales on products because of things like a drop in processor update and no real feature improvements, but as a consumer what else can you do other that what you feel is your best option. I don't like to waste money. I'm going to go with the next generation Mac Pro. It's too bad because I have the money for a whopping system now.

For College odds are you need a laptop.
Indeed. I'm wondering what the chances are for an update to the MacBook Pro come the end of this month or mid-May. I have an option of ordering a new MBP at the end of May or holding out until early August. If there are no hardware updates until late August and onwards, then there's nothing to lose should I purchase the MBP sooner.

Think Apple will update the MBP line soon? According to MacRumors' Buyer's Guide (http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#MacBook_Pro), the product is reaching the end of its cycle. What concerns me is the lack of any new hardware to implement in the current iteration of the MBP. Besides the old news about LED-backlit displays and the advent of Intel's Santa Rosa platform, there seems to be little that Apple can toss in outside of a new case design or a more capable discrete graphics solution. I have my doubts about a jump to Santa Rosa seeing that the MBP is already 802.11n-capable and has no need for X3000.

Thoughts?

Wow...$69?? I didn't know that. That isn't bad at all. Thats good news....thanks for that info!

Now I just wonder if there will be any cool new things in Apple's laptops by July. It sure would be pleasant.

I really hope not, because if Apple doesn't, they will lose a lot more profit from those people who are waiting for Leopard. I hope they realize that if they release redesigns of the models, they'll gain profits to hold them over until Leopard comes. Of course, large companies don't usually do what I think they should...:\

What is the chance of

Leopard free upgrade Coupons starting WWDC? (4 months till oct)

It will be cool, Leopard Free coupons starts with WWDC and annoucement of Oct release date.

How long m$ given vista free upgrade path? 3 to 6 months?

:grumble: I am really annoyed and frustrated.

I work for a small company (about 55 employees)that has been planning a switch to Mac.

I learned today that these plans have been scrapped. I was exited because we were all going to be changed over by mid 2008, now they are going with another company.

The problem was not the delay in Leopard, but the explanation of the delay. Our CEO is convinced Apple has no credibility because he considers the iPhone a toy and thinks Apple has abanded their computers in favor of "kitch for rich teenyboppers"(he's a colorful guy).

My CEO/IT department is very aware of the problems with MS, they deal with them everyday. But they would rather deal with the devil they know and are experienced with than take on a company that they no longer trust enough to invest 60k + over the next two years.

For my part, I am very dissapointed because I was going to buy an Imac for myself (still may) but now I have to wait even longer than I already have to make sure what I get does not have any compatibility problems with whatever I get stuck with at work.

I really have to wonder. Does Apple have a PR department, and if they do, don't they have enough sense to write a press release that doesnt alienate potential customers?
Unless, of course, if my boss is right and they are reducing commitment to their computer line.

Ugh!

If the stuff about multi-touch is true, I could almost guarantee they wouldn't release any groundbreaking hardware til October and here's why: Tiger wouldn't have the software to support it. It would be like having Windows 95 on a Tablet PC.

Hopefully i'm wrong though.

yeah, but it could be kept secret!!:)

HERE ARE THE MULTI-TOUCH FEATURES, AND EVERYONE WHO BOUGHT A NEW IMAC AFTER JUNE HAS ALREADY GOT THE HARDWARE! BOOM!

i suppose it's unlikely :\

as for me, i'll probably get a new imac after hearing what's said at wwdc. i'm SO tempted to just go and buy now, but i'll be on holiday most of may so the time will pass quickly!