Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
This is GREAT - he has my vote:) , since he is not some RINO served to us by the liberal media. The man has a great common sense approach that I think will appeal to many swing voters, especially against the impending Hillary / Barak Hussein Obama ticket.
http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_103851.asp
Congressman Co-Chairman Of National "Draft Fred" Movement
posted March 19, 2007
Rep. Zach Wamp said Monday that former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson is very likely to run for president.
The Third District congressman told the Chattanooga Pachyderm Club, "I had a follow-up conversation with Fred Thompson, and there is a real, real strong possibility that he will run."
He said Thompson "has to meet some obligations" with the "Law and Order" TV show and with broadcaster Paul Harvey.
He said Thompson has set aside April 18 and will meet with members of Congress. Rep. Wamp said he has already lined up over 40 members who are interested in the Thompson candidacy.
Rep. Wamp said, "These are from some key places like Tennessee, South Carolina, Georgia and Kentucky."
Rep. Wamp said he and Rep. John Duncan will be co-chairmen of a committee designed to encourage Thompson to seek the Republican presidential nomination.
They will lead the "Draft Fred Thompson 2008" committee. The committee's goal is "to recruit and organize citizens from both the public and private sectors into a leadership group that will serve as a clearinghouse for Thompson supporters from across the country."
Rep. Wamp said, "It is becoming increasingly obvious that a growing number of Americans want Fred Thompson to join the 2008 presidential campaign.
"Sen. Thompson's ability to communicate an optimistic vision for America, coupled with his strong conservative credentials, makes him an ideal choice for thousands of our fellow citizens."
Rep. Duncan said he was "proud to lend my name and energy to this important draft effort."
He said, "I have known Fred Thompson for many years, and I believe he is an exceptional national leader who has the character and integrity to be an outstanding president."
A third congressman from Tennessee, freshman David Davis, has also agreed to become a member of the committee.
The co-chairmen said they believe that "scores of other prominent leaders from Tennessee and across the country will be joining the draft movement in the next several weeks."
Rep. Duncan said, "I believe that thousands of Americans from every walk of life will join this grass-roots effort. They will help us send a clear message to Sen. Thompson that he should take the next step and announce his candidacy."
Rep. Wamp said Thompson "personifies strength and trust. His charisma, eloquence, and exemplary public service have inspired Tennesseans and Americans alike. When I ask my conservative colleagues in Congress if Fred should run, its like setting off fireworks above the Capitol."
Rep. Wamp said, "America needs Fred Thompson to answer this call."
Dean Rice of Knoxville, a former aide to Thompson and now a government relations executive, is the treasurer of the Draft Fred Thompson 2008 committee.
He urged those interested in the campaign to visit the committee's website, www.fred08.com or e-mail runfred@fred08.com.
Rep. Wamp told the Pachyderm Club that a poll by conservative TV host Sean Hannity gave Fred Thompson 52 percent of the vote. He said it was "about twice what McCain received."
He said the Wall Street Journal, writer Bob Novak and others have been commenting on the possible Thompson candidacy
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# 1 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
what is RINO?
# 2 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
what is RINO?
Republican in Name Only... used derisively for 'Publicans who are not "conservative enough."
# 3 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
ha!
Another actor from the republicans...
I wonder if his oval office speaches will have the law and order theme song...
# 4 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
ha!
Another actor from the republicans...
I wonder if his oval office speaches will have the law and order theme song...
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
He may be a good candidate (or not, who knows) but that was funny. Also, I liked this:
from the Chattanooga Pachyderm Club...
What an awesome name. "Donkey Club" doesn't have the same ring to it.
# 5 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
FINALLY a Republican I could vote for. Actually, a Republican I could support and get behind. A true moderate.
# 6 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
FINALLY a Republican I could vote for. Actually, a Republican I could support and get behind. A true moderate.
He thinks Roe should be overturned and it should be a state-level decision. You could support that? I'm just sayining...that's my exact feelings on it...but you?
# 7 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
FINALLY a Republican I could vote for. Actually, a Republican I could support and get behind. A true moderate. Wow. What is it about him that you like? I think of you as being probably more partisan than me (not that that's a bad thing), but I personally can't see myself voting for any Republican for president or other national/state office, no matter what. I just disagree with the party itself too much, and when one of them gets some power, that just enables all of the worst elements of the rest of them. Remember that George W. was seen as a moderate (a compassionate conservative) when he ran in 2000.
# 8 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
Wow. What is it about him that you like? I think of you as being probably more partisan than me (not that that's a bad thing), but I personally can't see myself voting for any Republican for president or other national/state office, no matter what. I just disagree with the party itself too much, and when one of them gets some power, that just enables all of the worst elements of the rest of them. Remember that George W. was seen as a moderate (a compassionate conservative) when he ran in 2000.
I think he was being ironic (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/alanismorissette/ironic.html) like an old man turned ninety-eight, he won the lottery and died the next day.
# 9 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
I think he was being ironic (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/alanismorissette/ironic.html) like an old man turned ninety-eight, he won the lottery and died the next day.
It's too bad the majority of things listed in that song are not ironic at all.
She should have named that song "Things that kinda suck" She could have listed her song! :p
# 10 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
I think of [Northgate] as...
I think of Northgate as not thinking sometimes.
ShawnJ at 2007-11-17 16:08:32 >

# 11 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
It's too bad the majority of things listed in that song are not ironic at all.
She should have named that song "Things that kinda suck" She could have listed her song! :p
You miss the point entirelythe ironic thing it that the song Ironic, contains few ironic things.
# 12 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
I think he was being ironic (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/alanismorissette/ironic.html) like an old man turned ninety-eight, he won the lottery and died the next day. Ha! Maybe he was being ironic (or sarcastic or whatever). I couldn't tell from his tone though, and I really don't know enough about Fred Thompson to know if he really is a moderate.
# 13 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
You miss the point entirelythe ironic thing it that the song Ironic, contains few ironic things.
I realized the point Outsider was making, I was just making a flippant comment about song.
Ironically, you were the one that missed my point :smokey:
Unless your saying Alanis Morissette intentionally listed a bunch on things that aren't actually ironic. In which case I'd disagree with you.
# 14 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
I like the guy. Sorry. Yes, I'm a liberal. I'm pretty hard core Democrat. Duh. I probably wouldn't vote for him. But if he were elected I wouldn't be too worried. Bush scared the shit out of me in 2000 and I was proven right.
Look. I don't consider Thompson to be very radical. He seems calmed and reasonable. He doesn't appear to be in the pocket of evangelical Christians. So even though he's pro-life I don't get the impression he'd touch Roe V Wade. He also doesn't support gay marriage. But I doubt very much he'd push any discrimination laws into the constitution (and I have news for you wingnuts out there, a Democrat president won't make gay marriage legal either -- it's political suicide for either side).
Thompson's got that great oratory skillset that is sorely missed. He looks and acts presidential. He's smart and witty. He doesn't have that "Washington stink" on him.
So, I like the guy. At least I'm willing to say it out loud when I know for a fact that my Wingnut compatriots would NEVER admit to liking a Democrat candidate. ;)
Oh, and I love you too ShawnJ. Smooches!
# 15 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
Wow. What is it about him that you like? I think of you as being probably more partisan than me (not that that's a bad thing), but I personally can't see myself voting for any Republican for president or other national/state office, no matter what. I just disagree with the party itself too much, and when one of them gets some power, that just enables all of the worst elements of the rest of them. Remember that George W. was seen as a moderate (a compassionate conservative) when he ran in 2000.
I'm really surprised to hear you (read you) write that, actually. Your statement is really not logical. The GOP has stood for limited government and spending for years. It's only recently that things have gone the other way, which is one of the reasons they got their asses handed to them in the midterms. Conversely, Democrats have traditionally stood for over legislating and more control. There are many exceptions to be sure.
Not that I'm saying one can't support (or refuse to support) one party or another based on what that party's leadership does That is the root of my support of the GOP at this point anyway...that and the hope that a platform/candidate emerges I can get behind.
As for Bush, he billed himself as a "compassionate conservative." Bush has not been conservative in many areas, and a good portion of the GOP base knows it. It's been discussed at length. I see what you're saying or trying to say...that George Bush...that rightwinger!...is seen as a moderate by those crazies! But really, he's not conservative, especially fiscally. He's a big government conservative...that's a fact.
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Your statement is really not logical.
It makes sense to me. I will not vote Republican while Ted Stephens of Alaska is alive, because no matter how moderate or fiscally conservative the head guy is, the old bastards who screw everything up will be in charge of the committees.
The Republican party is evil at the core IMHO, and the reasonable ones are just the way the devil gets his toe in the door. Social conservativism = evil, and Republican politicians are wasteful porkbelly bastards who use social conservative issues to keep control of the unwashed masses. The sooner the fiscal conservatives realize this and start voting Libertarian the better.
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It makes sense to me. I will not vote Republican while Ted Stephens of Alaska is alive, because no matter how moderate or fiscally conservative the head guy is, the old bastards who screw everything up will be in charge of the committees.
The Republican party is evil at the core IMHO, and the reasonable ones are just the way the devil gets his toe in the door. Social conservativism = evil, and Republican politicians are wasteful porkbelly bastards who use social conservative issues to keep control of the unwashed masses. The sooner the fiscal conservatives realize this and start voting Libertarian the better.
Kinda like all those moderate independents and democrats that voted D and put all the far left wingers in the chairs? That will eventually come out in the wash when voters figure out what they have been a party to.
The democrat party is evil and communist at the core IMHO, and the reasonable ones are just the way that Reid, Pelosi, and Schumer get a toe in the door. Central planning and statism = evil, and Democrat politicians are tax and spend nanny-state bastards who use "compassion" and the PC movement to keep control of the unwashed masses.
See how nicely that contributes to things? We're really coming together here! Look Out!
The sooner we all start voting Libertarian the better. RON PAUL in 08! :smokey:
# 18 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
The democrat party is evil and communist at the core IMHO, and the reasonable ones are just the way that Reid, Pelosi, and Schumer get a toe in the door. Central planning and statism = evil, and Democrat politicians are tax and spend nanny-state bastards who use "compassion" and the PC movement to keep control of the unwashed masses.
If the Democrats are as bad as the Republicans, then how come they end up spending so much less money? Republicans have been the spendthrift party for 25 years now, the Democrats are much more responsible.
Ru Paul for President in 08!
http://www.nytix.com/TV_Shows/RuPaul/RuPaulLocks.gif
# 19 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
No wonder your president has to be an actor, he's gotta look good on TV.
:lol:
Sorry, had to be done. As for the OP, I just don't know enough about Thompson's politics at this point to make an educated opinion, other than after the Bush debacle of the previous 8 years, it's going to take a miracle (another major terrorist attack, say. ;) ) for a Republican President to get elected, RINO or not.
# 20 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
They'll have to stop running all his Law and Order episodes.:rolleyes:
mydo at 2007-11-17 16:18:43 >

# 21 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
I'm really surprised to hear you (read you) write that, actually. Your statement is really not logical. The GOP has stood for limited government and spending for years. It's only recently that things have gone the other way, which is one of the reasons they got their asses handed to them in the midterms. Conversely, Democrats have traditionally stood for over legislating and more control. There are many exceptions to be sure.
Not that I'm saying one can't support (or refuse to support) one party or another based on what that party's leadership does That is the root of my support of the GOP at this point anyway...that and the hope that a platform/candidate emerges I can get behind.
As for Bush, he billed himself as a "compassionate conservative." Bush has not been conservative in many areas, and a good portion of the GOP base knows it. It's been discussed at length. I see what you're saying or trying to say...that George Bush...that rightwinger!...is seen as a moderate by those crazies! But really, he's not conservative, especially fiscally. He's a big government conservative...that's a fact. Well we both know that we have different political views, so I don't really understand why you're surprised about that part of it. The Republican party simply doesn't represent my values, and I don't think we need to go any further into it than that in this thread.
But I may have overstated it: I could imagine voting for a Republican if I felt he or she could genuinely change the party and the Democrat running was a real schmuck. But I have voted for Republicans on "character" or for the "individual" in the past, and have always eventually felt burned.
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If the Democrats are as bad as the Republicans, then how come they end up spending so much less money? Republicans have been the spendthrift party for 25 years now, the Democrats are much more responsible.
Ru Paul for President in 08!
http://www.nytix.com/TV_Shows/RuPaul/RuPaulLocks.gif
:lol:
# 23 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
It makes sense to me. I will not vote Republican while Ted Stephens of Alaska is alive, because no matter how moderate or fiscally conservative the head guy is, the old bastards who screw everything up will be in charge of the committees.
The Republican party is evil at the core IMHO, and the reasonable ones are just the way the devil gets his toe in the door. Social conservativism = evil, and Republican politicians are wasteful porkbelly bastards who use social conservative issues to keep control of the unwashed masses. The sooner the fiscal conservatives realize this and start voting Libertarian the better.
You're a nut. "Evil" :lol:
# 24 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
If the Democrats are as bad as the Republicans, then how come they end up spending so much less money? Republicans have been the spendthrift party for 25 years now, the Democrats are much more responsible.
Ru Paul for President in 08!
Huh? How do you even begin to support that? Let me guess wait...here it comes! The deficit is shrinking which is the result of the Democratic Congress!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Seriously, you can't support that. They ran on being conseravative and eliminating pork. But looky here:
From the AP on the War Supplemental Bill:
Already, money in the bill not directly related to the war exceeds $20 billion...
All told, farmers would get $4.3 billion in disaster aid...
The drought disaster aid package has been scaled back, in part to make room for $74 million for a peanut storage program that pays storage and handling fees as farmers market their crop. And Rep. Sam Farr, D-Calif., is pressing for $25 million for spinach farmers who pulled produce from market shelves after last year's E. coli outbreak...
Meanwhile, House Appropriations Committee Chairman David Obey, D-Wis., isn't waiting on the upcoming farm bill to extend income subsidies aimed at small dairy farms. Obey's 13-month extension would cost $283 million...
Those items and others, including $2.5 billion for homeland security projects such as additional cargo screening at ports and airports, $2.9 billion for levee improvements and other aid for the Gulf Coast, and $735 million to close shortfalls in the State Children's Health Insurance Program, offer virtually every lawmakers a reason to vote for the Iraq funding bill — regardless of their feelings on the war itself.
Democrats insist they aren't being bought off.
"Absolutely not," said Rep. Jim Costa, a Democrat representing a farm district in California's Central Valley. The California delegation is demanding help for citrus, avocado and other farmers facing $1.2 billion in losses from a devastating January freeze.
:lol:
It's legal bribery, except the politicians aren't being bribed...they're the ones DOING the bribing. Fiscal responsibility my ass. It reads like an Onion article for Christ's sake.
# 25 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
Don't know much about him, aside from a few TV appearances. If he's really a social conservative while not being formally aligned with any religious right groups, that would give him a distinct advantage over Giuliani and McCain.
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I'm registered democrat, but would vote for this guy in a heartbeat. Currently, I don't find any candidate to my taste.
Thompson is actually someone that doesn't kiss much political a$$...we could use someone like that in the White House. Hell it couldn't get much worse right?:err:
# 27 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
Well we both know that we have different political views, so I don't really understand why you're surprised about that part of it. The Republican party simply doesn't represent my values, and I don't think we need to go any further into it than that in this thread.
But I may have overstated it: I could imagine voting for a Republican if I felt he or she could genuinely change the party and the Democrat running was a real schmuck. But I have voted for Republicans on "character" or for the "individual" in the past, and have always eventually felt burned.
Well we both know that we have different political views, so I don't really understand why you're surprised about that part of it. The Democratic party simply doesn't represent my values, and I don't think we need to go any further into it than that in this thread.
But I may have overstated it: I could imagine voting for a Democrat if I felt he or she could genuinely change the party and the Democrat running was a real schmuck. But I have voted for Democrats on "character" or for the "individual" in the past, and have always eventually felt burned.
# 28 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
But I have voted for Democrats on "character" or for the "individual" in the past, and have always eventually felt burned.
Unlike those Republicans you've been carrying water for. ;)
ShawnJ at 2007-11-17 16:26:45 >

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Unlike those Republicans you've been carrying water for. ;)
We need a new euphemism. It's getting long in the tooth.
# 30 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
We need a new euphemism. It's getting long in the tooth.
No, that's more of an inside joke here, actually.
ShawnJ at 2007-11-17 16:28:54 >

# 31 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
No, that's more of an inside joke here, actually.
Maybe the cat carrying the water-melon? Hmmmm...:err:
# 32 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
Maybe the cat carrying the water-melon? Hmmmm...:err:
:lol: You old timer.
ShawnJ at 2007-11-17 16:30:57 >

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Huh? How do you even begin to support that?
PAYGO - The Democrats used the PAYGO rules when they were in power before, and they have just been reinstated now that the Democrats are back again. The Republicans are the ones who blew out the budget in 2002-2007.
# 34 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
We need a new euphemism. It's getting long in the tooth.
I say we bring back the dueling "that's a strawman! No, THAT'S a strawman" craze of late '05 / early '06
# 35 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
Well it looks like we 'ol Fred is starting to get serious about running. I surely hope so. I don't like anyone running on the Demo side and the current crop of Repub's is just as pathetic.
Not sure I userstand why they would have to move the Law and Order episodes to a new time slot. Seems rather much.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17888550/site/newsweek/
# 36 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
dammit, and I was hoping for the Giuliani/Gingrich Adultery '08 ticket!
dmz at 2007-11-17 16:35:00 >

# 37 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
I thought this quote from presidential candidate Mike Huckabee was priceless:
"If Republicans in this election vote in such a way as to say a candidate’s personal life and personal conduct in office doesn’t matter,” he declared, “then a lot of Christian evangelical leaders owe Bill Clinton a public apology."
# 38 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
So we get to sneeringly refer to him as a "former trial lawyer", right?
I'm sure he handled some cases that involved a huge cut for the law firm, which we know is the sleaziest of pay for play schemes. I mean, I'm just going by what I've learned on these boards, here.
He was also a lobbyist for the Savings and Loan industry, working hard to pass the deregulation that led to so many Americans losing their shirts while billions of dollars went down the rat-hole of insider deals and corruption.
Divorced his wife of 25 years when he got into the Hollywood lifestyle, married a much younger woman when he was 60, but of course using that kind of information to impute anything about the man's character is entirely off limits, as these last years have taught us.
But hey, he drives a red pickup truck and knows how to play the slow talking good ole boy and authority figures on TV so he must be a populist and of presidential timber!
# 39 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
Divorced his wife of 25 years when he got into the Hollywood lifestyle, married a much younger woman when he was 60...
Can't fault the man for living the American Dream!:D
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PAYGO - The Democrats used the PAYGO rules when they were in power before, and they have just been reinstated now that the Democrats are back again. The Republicans are the ones who blew out the budget in 2002-2007.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
# 41 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
So we get to sneeringly refer to him as a "former trial lawyer", right?
I'm sure he handled some cases that involved a huge cut for the law firm, which we know is the sleaziest of pay for play schemes. I mean, I'm just going by what I've learned on these boards, here.
He was also a lobbyist for the Savings and Loan industry, working hard to pass the deregulation that led to so many Americans losing their shirts while billions of dollars went down the rat-hole of insider deals and corruption.
Divorced his wife of 25 years when he got into the Hollywood lifestyle, married a much younger woman when he was 60, but of course using that kind of information to impute anything about the man's character is entirely off limits, as these last years have taught us.
But hey, he drives a red pickup truck and knows how to play the slow talking good ole boy and authority figures on TV so he must be a populist and of presidential timber!
Adda's on a role today!
I'm sure we don't need another "trial lawyer" scumbag running for office. Let alone another fucking Hollywood actor with a goddam "opinion"!
# 42 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm not sure what's so funny SDW. The evidence that Democrats are fiscally responsible and Republicans are irresponsible is absolutely rock solid. That's why ultra-conservative groups like CATO are basically endorsing Hillary Clinton over any Republican (http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=8137). Think what it must do to groups like CATO to finally come to that point. Despite the difficulty of doing so, I wonder when you'll also see that truth?
# 43 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
I'm not sure what's so funny SDW. The evidence that Democrats are fiscally responsible and Republicans are irresponsible is absolutely rock solid. That's why ultra-conservative groups like CATO are basically endorsing Hillary Clinton over any Republican (http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=8137). Think what it must do to groups like CATO to finally come to that point. Despite the difficulty of doing so, I wonder when you'll also see that truth?
Did you actually bother reading that op ed? It's hardly the "CATO are basically endorsing Hillary Clinton over any Republican" you say it is. The author speaks for himself and not the CATO Institute. He goes on and on comparing Bill Clinton to George Bush and only mentions Hillary Clinton in the last half of the very last paragraph (save the intro). Where he writes, "Hillary will still have to tack right to capture conservative centrists on the economy, but if she can convince voters that she'll govern like her husband, she's got a good case."
Not much of an endorsement from CATO for Hillary.:rolleyes:
mydo at 2007-11-17 16:42:08 >

# 44 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
Thompson is actually someone that doesn't kiss much political a$$...we could use someone like that in the White House. Hell it couldn't get much worse right?:err:
Cheney is someone that doesn't kiss much poltical a$$. Likewise he is a politician that doesn't worry about re-election but "doing the right thing" to solve long term issue for the country.
Be careful what you wish for.
As far as Thompson...its another conservative that was an adult in the 60s and yet avoided military service. He's a lawyer to boot. There's enough lawyers running this go around.
Pass.
Vinea
vinea at 2007-11-17 16:43:02 >

# 45 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
Did you actually bother reading that op ed? It's hardly the "CATO are basically endorsing Hillary Clinton over any Republican" you say it is. The author speaks for himself and not the CATO Institute. He goes on and on comparing Bill Clinton to George Bush and only mentions Hillary Clinton in the last half of the very last paragraph (save the intro). Where he writes, "Hillary will still have to tack right to capture conservative centrists on the economy, but if she can convince voters that she'll govern like her husband, she's got a good case."
Not much of an endorsement from CATO for Hillary.:rolleyes: I stand by what I said. It was published on the CATO website and written by a CATO senior fellow. The author is a conservative Republican. CATO is one of the most conservative groups around. The piece is titled "Bring Back Clinton." It's based on a comparison of Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, but it's specifically framed as an analysis of Hillary vs. a Republican nominee, with a Republican nominee "stuck defending Bush's record" and Hillary's campaign based on "whether the nation should return to Clintonomics." He goes on to show how superior Clintonomics is to Bush's record. No it's not an official endorsement, which is why I said "basically an endorsement," i.e., 'implied' or 'almost an endorsement,' and I stand by that 100%.
# 46 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
I stand by what I said. It was published on the CATO website and written by a CATO senior fellow. The author is a conservative Republican. CATO is one of the most conservative groups around. The piece is titled "Bring Back Clinton." It's based on a comparison of Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, but it's specifically framed as an analysis of Hillary vs. a Republican nominee, with a Republican nominee "stuck defending Bush's record" and Hillary's campaign based on "whether the nation should return to Clintonomics." He goes on to show how superior Clintonomics is to Bush's record. No it's not an official endorsement, which is why I said "basically an endorsement," i.e., 'implied' or 'almost an endorsement,' and I stand by that 100%.
Surely, you must be joking. Tell you what...I'm going to give you a little time to realize that everything you've said in the last two posts is 99% crap.
# 47 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
I stand by what I said. It was published on the CATO website and written by a CATO senior fellow. The author is a conservative Republican. CATO is one of the most conservative groups around. The piece is titled "Bring Back Clinton." It's based on a comparison of Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, but it's specifically framed as an analysis of Hillary vs. a Republican nominee, with a Republican nominee "stuck defending Bush's record" and Hillary's campaign based on "whether the nation should return to Clintonomics." He goes on to show how superior Clintonomics is to Bush's record. No it's not an official endorsement, which is why I said "basically an endorsement," i.e., 'implied' or 'almost an endorsement,' and I stand by that 100%.
Well you're standing the wrong spot and you are completely wrong. Read the very end, This article appeared in the Washington Examiner on March 15, 2007.
They are reprinting something that one of their people published in a news paper.
It's much more of a repudiation of Bush than is it praise of Bill or an "endorsement" of Hillary. Where is the "endorsement" of Hillary? Please quote the words that "endorse" her. All I can find is "Hillary will still have to tack right to capture conservative centrists on the economy, but if she can convince voters that she'll govern like her husband, she's got a good case." That's not an endorsement. An endorsement is "The Board of Directors of CATO endorse Hillary Clinton for President". Maybe you didn't know?
You know when I read your post I thought, "Wow! CATO endorsed Hillary!" Only to find out it's your inability to understand what you are reading rather than some bold move from CATO.:no:
mydo at 2007-11-17 16:46:10 >

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A response to E# and BRussell,
I said I'd give you some time, so now I have. E# and I were discussing why the federal deficit has shrunk. He claimed this:
PAYGO - The Democrats used the PAYGO rules when they were in power before, and they have just been reinstated now that the Democrats are back again. The Republicans are the ones who blew out the budget in 2002-2007.
I responded by LMAO. I believe BRussell wanted to know why. The fact is that no economic policy the Dems have implemented has yet taken effect (that's assuing they've actually done anything). Economic policy changes are generally subject to Lag Theory or "Impact Lag." From the federal reserve:
impact lag
The time it takes for the full impact of the policy to be felt. See also time lag, recognition lag, and implementation lag.
implementation lag
The time it takes for policymakers to act once they recognize an economic condition requiring action. See also time lag, impact lag, and recognition lag.
Even if the Dems have reinstituted PAYGO as it's commonly called, such an implementation would not yet be affecting the deficit or overall economy. It often takes 2 or even 3 years for policy to take effect. The deficit reductions were are seing now are a result of greater than expected revenues. It certainly has nothing to do with spending, as we're operating under the last Congress's budget. Overall spending is still exploding anyway. It's simply that revenue is up...you know, the thing that you claim is not raised by tax cuts?
# 49 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
Well. It looks like Fred Thompson has been suffering from cancer.
I noticed that there was absolutely ZERO outrage, concern trolling, etc. about how cancer will affect Fred Thompson's presidency. ZERO concern about why he would consider something as silly as a presidential run when he should be spending quality time with his family.
God the hypocrisy stinks around these parts.
# 50 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
Well. It looks like Fred Thompson has been suffering from cancer.
I noticed that there was absolutely ZERO outrage, concern trolling, etc. about how cancer will affect Fred Thompson's presidency. ZERO concern about why he would consider something as silly as a presidential run when he should be spending quality time with his family.
God the hypocrisy stinks around these parts.
Uh, how about because it's not the same thing? He has a very treatable kind of cancer that is already in remission. He's not doing chemo now and is not expected to again unless it comes back. He also hasn't announced he's running. It's clearly a different situation.
# 51 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
God the hypocrisy stinks around these parts.
You kidding me? ;) Its brilliant. He one-up'd Edwards on the sympathy vote.
"You think your getting the sympathy vote cuz your wife has cancer...O yeah well I got cancer so there, give me that vote"
:D
# 52 Re: Fred Thompson Likely To Run For President
You kidding me? ;) Its brilliant. He one-up'd Edwards on the sympathy vote.
"You think your getting the sympathy vote cuz your wife has cancer...O yeah well I got cancer so there, give me that vote"
:D
I hate to agree with SDW2001 on this one but I have too. Thompson and Giuliani (oh yea and McCain too, cancer must be a Repug thing) are "cancer free" right now and Mrs Edwards is "terminal". That's very different.
mydo at 2007-11-17 16:51:16 >
