In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
Michigan officials have quashed suggestions they were on the take from Apple. Simultaneously, one of the iPod maker's instrumental suppliers has landed in hot water with police, and another partnership sees Apple shaking up its retail store designs.
Politicians make amends over iPod row
Democratic Party members in Michigan were eager on Friday to match words with deeds by compensating Apple for the money it spent on flying them to California for a technology demo.
The gesture was an attempt to quickly squelch the controversy generated by the trip, whose partial Apple funding implied that the computer company had tried to buy influence and win an educational contract that would have reportedly seen $36 million in iPods delivered to every Michigan child.
Representative Tim Melton was adamant that the proposal had never been meaningful, and that repaying Apple the $1,702 it had cost each of the three Democrats who made the trip was simply a way of proving the party's honesty.
"The only reason we're paying for it is to end this public perception that something is misguided," Melton said. "There was never a plan to provide an iPod for every child in the state of Michigan."
Taiwan iPod supplier caught up in police raid
Meanwhile, one of Apple's core providers for the iPod felt heat from local authorities after a high-profile raid caught out Inventec's Taipei-based offices.
Agents from the island territory's Ministry of Justice made a surprise visit to the company on Thursday that saw 22 employees grilled by investigators over concerns about insider trading and stock manipulation by executives, claims which have also affected BenQ and several other major companies in the region.
Inventec said its legal woes were unlikely affect its day-to-day business.
Apple draws on consultants for fresh store ideas
After years of using a largely stable design, Apple this week began considering new concepts for its retail shops.
The consultant group Fitch was said to be helping Apple explore fresh ideas for its overall store philosophy, and was not committing to remaking any particular stores at this early stage.
Neither Apple nor Fitch was willing to comment on the development.
Developers claim to work on third-party iPhone apps
Multiple software teams have jumped the gun on the iPhone as a platform byclaiming early compatibility with the Apple handset.
Though the mention has since been removed, Scenario Software's official page for its Scenario Poker Dashboard widget claimed it was "designed for the size of iPhone's touch screen." Similarly, a dating service utility titled iPhone flirt was shown that programmer Miguel Sciaudone insisted would be a full-fledged software package for the device -- though running through advanced web technologies.
"The app is optimized and designed specifically and only for the iPhone," he said. "Due to the restrictions Apple is placing on 3rd party applications for the iPhone, the only current solution is to use the capabilities of the Safari web browser."
Apple has generally held a "walled garden" approach to allowing programs on to the iPhone, which the California firm has said would only be extended to third parties in tightly controlled circumstances.[ View this article at AppleInsider.com ] (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2661)
# 1 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
It is the "Democratic Party". "Democrat Party" is a term used as an annoyance, as it sounds worse than the correct term.
Chris
# 2 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
"Democrat Party members in Michigan "
This really sets my teeth on edge. There is no such thing as the "Democrat Party." There is, however, a Democratic Party in Michigan.
Democrat is a noun. Democratic is an adjective. Not only is the formulation "Democrat Party" factually incorrect, it is also grammatically incorrect.
A brief review of the "Republic Party's" poll tested rational behind popularizing this incorrect usage is available here (http://mediamatters.org/items/200608160005).
Condor at 2007-11-17 13:23:29 >

# 3 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
"Democrat Party"
I'm glad others noticed this! Is AI now taking its cues from George Bush and Karl Rove?
aiman at 2007-11-17 13:24:27 >

# 4 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
Of course, had it been Republican party members going on this trip to Cupertino, you'd be complaining about the appearance of impropriety, etc. But since it was a trip taken by Democrats, all you can do is complain about the wording of "Democrat" vs "Democratic" in the news article. :rolleyes:
# 5 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
"Democrat Party members"
I see "W" is writing for AI now.
# 6 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
Of course, had it been Republican party members going on this trip to Cupertino, you'd be complaining about the appearance of impropriety, etc. But since it was a trip taken by Democrats, all you can do is complain about the wording of "Democrat" vs "Democratic" in the news article. :rolleyes:
The trip by Democrats had the appearance of impropriety AND "Democrat Party" is a loaded term. It's also possible to walk and chew gum at the same time.
aiman at 2007-11-17 13:27:29 >

# 7 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
Similarly, a dating service utility titled iPhone flirt was shown that programmer Miguel Sciaudone insisted would be a full-fledged software package for the device -- though running through advanced web technologies.
Well it sounds like a new product is in the offing, the iDate, and for the more bold the iRedLigthDistrict
# 8 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
It's Democratic party, please. No such thing as Democrat Party.
Rolo at 2007-11-17 13:29:37 >

# 9 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
It's Democratic party, please. No such thing as Democrat Party.
I got p.o.'d right away when I saw the usage of the phrase "Democrat Party," because it shows how far that right-wing perversion has spread into journalistic parlance. At this point in history, it is hard to tell whether the author intended to be offensive, or was simply ignorant of what the adjectival form of Democrat is. (This ignorance is caused by the confusion started by Rove and Bush when they repeatedly insert the noun where the adjective belongs to somehow tarnish the image of the Democratic Party.)
I'm sure The Shrub has convinced many weak-minded people to pronounce the word "new-kyoo-lar" instead of "new-klee-er." By the way, there is no issue: the first (the President's pronunciation) is completely and unequivocally wrong, and the second one is right.
In retribution, I use Sam Seder's pronunciation of the GOP. He calls them "Rape-ub-lic-ans." Hey, it is more true to the Latin roots of the word anyways!
UPDATE: The correct word "Democratic" was put in place of the galling "Democrat" as adjective some time after the original version of this post. Everyone who posted before me and I are not crazy. The mistake was there, but it has since been corrected. Thank you.
# 10 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
The english language are under attack. U'all gotz to chill, this is the new improved free world. Proper grammar don't mean nothing. :lol:
Yea, it's sad.
My favorite is, "Apple are..." :lol:
iPeon at 2007-11-17 13:31:31 >

# 11 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
My favorite is, "Apple are..." :lol:
Exactly. Everyone knows it should be: "Apples are..."
:lol: :lol: :lol:
# 12 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
My favorite is, "Apple are..." :lol:
As has been discussed a billion and one times here on AppleInsider, "Apple are" is a correct, though uncommon, form.
# 13 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
As has been discussed a billion and one times here on AppleInsider, "Apple are" is a correct, though uncommon, form.
Apple is a single entity, not plural.
iPeon at 2007-11-17 13:34:39 >

# 14 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
Apple is a single entity, not plural.
*sighs*
http://alt-usage-english.org/groupnames.html
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/14/messages/74.html
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/teacher/viewtopic.php?t=4608
# 15 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
... and win an educational contract that would have reportedly seen $36 million in iPods delivered to every Michigan child.[ View this article at AppleInsider.com ] ( http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2661)
Each student needs $36 million worth of iPods? :rolleyes:
wilco at 2007-11-17 13:36:37 >

# 16 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
*sighs*
http://alt-usage-english.org/groupnames.html
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/14/messages/74.html
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/teacher/viewtopic.php?t=4608
I always look at alt-groups and forums to get the correct info. Thanks for the garbage. :lol:
You better re-educate these blokes then, University of Nottingham (http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/public-affairs/uon-style-book/singular-plural.htm)
iPeon at 2007-11-17 13:37:41 >

# 17 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
I always look at alt-groups and forums to get the correct info. Thanks for the garbage. :lol:
You better re-educate these blocks then, University of Nottingham (http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/public-affairs/uon-style-book/singular-plural.htm)
I won't bother finding you more references. Just do yourself a favor and stop making a fool of yourself by proclaiming that "Apple are" is wrong; it is not.
# 18 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
I won't bother finding you more references. Just do yourself a favor and stop making a fool of yourself by proclaiming that "Apple are" is wrong; it is not.
Thank you.
iPeon at 2007-11-17 13:39:43 >

# 19 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
Each student needs $36 million worth of iPods? :rolleyes:
Like, rock on Garth!
# 20 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
Of course, had it been Republican party members going on this trip to Cupertino, you'd be complaining about the appearance of impropriety, etc. But since it was a trip taken by Democrats, all you can do is complain about the wording of "Democrat" vs "Democratic" in the news article. :rolleyes:
Sounds like you're making some assumptions there. I think both parties are corrupt (although one is far worse). I would also not be disrespectful to either. It cheapens the level of discourse and gets in the way of productive discussion.
And had it been Republican party members described as such, I would not have commented at all.
Chris
# 21 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
A couple of quick points:
1. The fact that there never was any iPod proposal was pointed out clearly and decisively, with full sourcing, by myself several days ago in the comments section of the previous story. Why it took AI so long to issue this correction I have no idea.
2. The improper use of "Democrat" instead of "Democratic" has been corrected on the main AI story page, but still reads "Democrat Party" in the first comment version above.
3. For those who doubt the whole "deliberate-misuse-of-Democrat" thing, here's more info about it for ya:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(phrase)
# 22 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
3. For those who doubt the whole "deliberate-misuse-of-Democrat" thing, here's more info about it for ya:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(phrase)
Corrected link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(phrase)
aiman at 2007-11-17 13:43:46 >

# 23 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
I won't bother finding ... more references. Just do ... a favor and stop .... proclaiming that "Apple are" is wrong; it is not.
Chucker is 100% right. And, btw, although their English sounds a bit strange to Americans, the British do know a thing or two about the language that we, on this side of the Atlantic, could learn from.
That reminds me: whatever happened to "-ly" in American English?
Makes me feel bad.
:rolleyes:
PS: My edits of Chucker are so that I don't want someone thinking that he was yelling at something I said.:D
# 24 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
> That reminds me: whatever happened to "-ly" in American English?
Tom Lehrer (on behalf of the GE-sponsored Electric Company) hijacked the colloquial
adjectival phrase, in his infamous 1972 song "L-Y". V.i.z.
http://www.bearcy.com/tomlehrer.html
towards the end, where something or someone (possibly a leopard) sneaks
past a tiger...
# 25 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
3. For those who doubt the whole "deliberate-misuse-of-Democrat" thing, here's more info about it for ya:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(phrase)
As that link explains, "Democrat Party" is not incorrect either.
Some believe that the use of the noun "Democrat" as an adjective is ungrammatical on the grounds that "Democratic Party" is not a proper noun, but a noun modified by an adjective.[19] Using a noun as a modifier of another noun is not grammatically incorrect in modern English in the formation of a compound noun, i.e. "shoe store," "school bus," "peace movement," "Senate election," etc. Americans commonly speak of "the Iraq war" rather than "the Iraqi war."[20][21]
You know a thread sucks when it contains two accusations of common English mistakes, when neither of them is common, or, for that matter, a mistake.
# 26 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
Chucker is 100% right. And, btw, although their English sounds a bit strange to Americans, the British do know a thing or two about the language that we, on this side of the Atlantic, could learn from.
That reminds me: whatever happened to "-ly" in American English?
Makes me feel bad.
:rolleyes:
PS: My edits of Chucker are so that I don't want someone thinking that he was yelling at something I said.:D
Thank you. After all, don’t forget where the language is from. :)
Now I’m bound to get flamed about the origin of the English language, so here goes:
• Indo-European
• Germanic
• West Germanic
• Anglo-Frisian
• Anglic
• Anglo-Frisian
English has a large amount of vocabulary from the Norman language, from when the Normans invaded England. This is where we get a lot of our more complex words from. Simpler words, such as ‘bread’ are derived from Old Norse, an extinct Germanic language (you can see their cognates in languages such as German ‘Brot’, Danish ‘brd’ and Icelandic ‘brau’). Compare to the French ‘pain’ and its cognates the Italian ‘pane’ and Spanish ‘pan’ (all Romance languages).
Now, if you were that bothered, you will accept that the Brits can teach you Yanks a thing or two about our language (which, by definition, is not our language, but for argument’s sake).
# 27 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
You know a thread sucks when it contains two accusations of common English mistakes, when neither of them is common, or, for that matter, a mistake.
Oh, c'mon, man, it's not that bad. All work and no play makes us dull boys (and gals)....
Sometimes it's nice to discuss the weather.
# 28 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
Oh, c'mon, man, it's not that bad. All work and no play makes us dull boys (and gals)....
I wasn't serious. ;) I find it more amusing than sucky, really.
Sometimes it's nice to discuss the weather.
Yes, especially when it's this awesome. :D
# 29 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
I wasn't serious. ;) I find it more amusing than sucky, really.
Yes, especially when it's this awesome. :D
It is nice today, I agree. :) I think we should all spend some more time outside and less on our Macs. Unless of course, the weather where you are is miserable. If not, move yo ass!
# 30 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
It is nice today, I agree. :) I think we should all spend some more time outside and less on our Macs. Unless of course, the weather where you are is miserable. If not, move yo ass!
What kind of logic is that? Just move the Mac outside. ;)
# 31 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
> That reminds me: whatever happened to "-ly" in American English?
Tom Lehrer (on behalf of the GE-sponsored Electric Company) hijacked the colloquial
adjectival phrase, in his infamous 1972 song "L-Y". V.i.z.
http://www.bearcy.com/tomlehrer.html
towards the end, where something or someone (possibly a leopard) sneaks
past a tiger...
Brilliant!
Altho, he could have added a verse on "..... think different. L. Y." (Had to find an Apple connection before this thread was shot down for being too far out of line).
:lol:
# 32 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
What kind of logic is that? Just move the Mac outside. ;)
Yeah, I know, I typed that message whilst on my MacBook in the garden. ;)
# 33 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
As that link explains, "Democrat Party" is not incorrect either.
A more objective review of the link reveals it has always been intended to insult.
In addition, you only need to see the party name (as it is used around the world) to see it is "Democratic Party".
Not that I'm a big fan of the Dems, but aren't we all tired of the Repubs making up their own "facts"?
Chris
# 34 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
As has been discussed a billion and one times here on AppleInsider, "Apple are" is a correct, though uncommon, form.
It's not used at all in American English, though it is used in British English.
# 35 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
About the article::)
While Apple's stores may sport a somewhat different look in the future, Bulgari, the big luxury manufacturer, just spent over $3 million to re-do its main store here in NYC.
Now it looks very much like Apple's GM Plaza store, minus the electronic products, of course.
# 36 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
*sighs*
http://alt-usage-english.org/groupnames.html
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/14/messages/74.html
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/teacher/viewtopic.php?t=4608
We're Murricans. For us, a company is singular, at any and all times. Them UKers don't know how to speak.
Swift at 2007-11-17 13:58:02 >

# 37 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
Thank you. After all, dont forget where the language is from. :)
Now Im bound to get flamed about the origin of the English language, so here goes:
Indo-European
Germanic
West Germanic
Anglo-Frisian
Anglic
Anglo-Frisian
Now, if you were that bothered, you will accept that the Brits can teach you Yanks a thing or two about our language (which, by definition, is not our language, but for arguments sake).
Can't teach us a thing. We speak American English, ever since we kicked your ass (and your occupying lobsterbacks) out of our country. First isn't anything but prior.
Swift at 2007-11-17 13:59:05 >

# 38 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
[QUOTE=Chucker;1069914]As that link explains, "Democrat Party" is not incorrect either.
It's our party. We name it, not you, Lord Plushbottom.
Swift at 2007-11-17 14:00:06 >

# 39 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
You know, to be more substantial -- learn to spot the political ambush -- the initial news item that got everyone in a tizzy seems to be a politically-motivated leak to get people talking about this "wasteful" trip. It's typical in politics. The largest example of the ambush was the idea that "the first thing" that Clinton wanted to do was decree that gays were allowed in the military. He had no immediate plans to do it, but the new president then found himself having to react to a well-timed plant. There's no evidence that he would have done anything but announce a presidential commission, do the research, and change the rules a year or two down the line.
There seems to be a lot of Brits in this forum, welcome. It may astonish you, but US politics are a pretty bareknuckle business.
Swift at 2007-11-17 14:01:07 >

# 40 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
Can't teach us a thing. We speak American English, ever since we kicked your ass (and your occupying lobsterbacks) out of our country. First isn't anything but prior.
What the hell. At least our country isnt run by an escaped mental patient.
# 41 Re: In short: Michigan saga, iPod supplier bust, new retail concepts - AppleInside
What the hell. At least our country isnt run by an escaped mental patient.
Sort of true. Watching Parlimentary debades is like watching an entire room of mental patients
But, as long as they keep them locked up there, everythings ok. :lol: