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Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn

Title says it all. I'm really surprised this hasn't come up since Apple announced it's partnership with Intel. I remember this did come up when the G5 PM was first introduced. Obviously, we all know now that the G5 processor runs way hot. Just the facts. Hotter than Intel or even AMDs current high performance chips.

OK, so even in that BIG box that is the G5 PM, theres no room for an extra optical drive. Apple now has a chance to rectify this. Should they? Or is the "clean" look of the G5 PM worth keeping?
[535 byte] By [hardhead] at [2007-11-15 21:56:55]
# 1 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
Why would you want two optical drives? :?:
BRussell at 2007-11-17 9:54:29 >
# 2 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
With DVD burners at 16x and fast CD burning I've always felt dual opticals were rather superfluous. However I can see the point of those who prefer them as well.
hmurchison at 2007-11-17 9:55:29 >
# 3 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
Hmm.. why dual optical drives?
Do you can copy DVDs and CDs on the fly.
skatman at 2007-11-17 9:56:27 >
# 4 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
I have wanted to use 2 CD's at a time, but You could get a external CD/DVD drive for that. Mostly burning 20 DVD's and wanting to watch a movie at the same time when I was working on a project.
Ebby at 2007-11-17 9:57:25 >
# 5 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
What's the fastest internal CD/DVD burner around these days? I used to have an additional 56x CD burner 'cos the 16x one was so slow.
jasonfj at 2007-11-17 9:58:24 >
# 6 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
All the above points are true. Fair enough. I should have fleshed out my comments more.

Less clutter, a bit more convenience, less expense overall.
hardhead at 2007-11-17 9:59:34 >
# 7 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
Originally posted by hardhead
All the above points are true. Fair enough. I should have fleshed out my comments more.

Less clutter, a bit more convenience, less expense overall.

Yes but at the same time there is also an reason for having two. Apple could easily add another bay and still keep clean lines. I think the optimal config is dual bays that can accept optical and 3 internal HD bays. You cover most needs of individuals today with that config.
hmurchison at 2007-11-17 10:00:27 >
# 8 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
I'm glad I have the FW800 tower.
Kenneth at 2007-11-17 10:01:31 >
# 9 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
Though I voted that I don't care, I meant I don't need it. Actually, I'd prefer an extra internal hard drive bay.
costique at 2007-11-17 10:02:28 >
# 10 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
The results of this poll will probably be quite misleading.

I assume you are asking about the mere inclusion of two trive bays rather than a minimum config which includes two optical drives.

Nobody would argue against 2 5.25" drive bays if sticking to a case the size of the current G5 case. However, that isn't what the thread title or poll addresses.
dfiler at 2007-11-17 10:03:29 >
# 11 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
dfiler, you assume correct.

Just for the record hmurch, I DO like the idea of dual drives. Very handy to have two op bays built in.

This gives you the option of putting in a dedicated high speed DVD player-burner in one bay and a high speed CD-RW in the other. Of course, I'm speaking of the options available on the PC side right now.
hardhead at 2007-11-17 10:04:37 >
# 12 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
I remember several years ago when most CD burners and DVD drives did not come standard, and so PC users would stick after market drives in alongside their standard CD drives. But it really doesn't seem necessary today. Options are good, of course, but at some point you have to look at what tiny fraction of users would want two optical drives, and then make a good design decision. I personally doubt that enough people would use them to make it worth it.
BRussell at 2007-11-17 10:05:35 >
# 13 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
Never going to happen. Pointless topic.
vinney57 at 2007-11-17 10:06:42 >
# 14 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
Originally posted by vinney57
Never going to happen. Pointless topic.

True. I think they should though.

For the amount I paid for my G5, I think it's an utter travesty that I have to have an ugly external enclosure for most of my storage. Not only does it cost hundreds of dollars, but it's really quite an eyesore.
slughead at 2007-11-17 10:07:37 >
# 15 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
Giving your customers another option is always good :)
MiMac at 2007-11-17 10:08:41 >
# 16 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
Room for another optical drive? Sure, fine.

Make 2 optical drives standard? No.
Bancho at 2007-11-17 10:09:37 >
# 17 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
They should just make it a option when you buy the PM
Nutty at 2007-11-17 10:10:45 >
# 18 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
Never going to happen. Pointless topic. :lol:

Yes sir. What ever you say sir...
hardhead at 2007-11-17 10:11:39 >
# 19 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
Dual optical drives? I suppose someone needs them so optional please.

Personally I am holding out for a recordable Blu Ray drive before even considering upgrading.
womblingfree at 2007-11-17 10:12:48 >
# 20 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
I want room for three removable media drives and four internal dive bays like the Mac towers used to have. I truly dislike the current tower designs - they look ok, but they are not as functional as the old 9600/9600 cases. I don't want to cover my desk up with firewire drives, I want them in the tower case where they belong. :mad: </rant>
Res at 2007-11-17 10:13:39 >
# 21 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
Originally posted by hardhead
Of course, I'm speaking of the options available on the PC side right now.

Who cares? You have a floppy drive on the the PC too and seriell port, parallel port, and PS2 ports...
I consider these just as unnecessarily as the second optical drive I kicked out of my G4 FW800.
smalM at 2007-11-17 10:14:46 >
# 22 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
i may not use it but someone else might. it would be good for people who could make use it, i had dual drives on my pc and it was nice to have. why not just include it whether the person uses it or not (as long as the powermac still looks good). it shouldnt be an extra because it will cost more $$$ and the powermac is already expensive.
alliancep.s.i at 2007-11-17 10:15:44 >
# 23 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
I have not wanted a second drive bay AS MUCH lately having the new 16x superdrive, as it burns CD's at 32X (I believe) when the older models were very slow for CD burning, which is what i use most. If I could have everything, I'd have the best internal CD burner at the max 52x or whatever they are up to, and a seperate DVD burner and use each for it's intended purpose. but all in all the new drive is pretty satisfying...
mikenap at 2007-11-17 10:16:43 >
# 24 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
Who cares? You have a floppy drive on the the PC too and seriell port, parallel port, and PS2 ports...
I consider these just as unnecessarily as the second optical drive I kicked out of my G4 FW800.

But that's you.
I care and I know a lot people who do as well. There still plenty of devices that use legacy connections. It's always good to have options.
skatman at 2007-11-17 10:17:53 >
# 25 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
Originally posted by skatman
But that's you.
I care and I know a lot people who do as well. There still plenty of devices that use legacy connections. It's always good to have options.

Yeah, for instance: I'd love for my microphone port on my G5 to work, especially since they included so few PCI's I can't add a sound board without either taking out something important or having yet another box outside my computer.

Currently, because of the PM G5's almost insulting Lack of ports and slots, I'm forced to have 2 USB hubs, an external TV tuner, an external RAID, and soon an external DVD-R. ALL of these things could fit inside my PC, and since it's internal, it's FAR, FAR cheaper.

_POWER_macs are for _POWER_users, and therefore should have a bit more than 2 HD slots and 3 PCI's (in my case, 2 because I have a 6800U).. ugh

Oh but it's a pretty case though!... looks like a big box of crap when you have to have all these little boxes strewn about because they totally skimped on the features!

They don't NEED elegance in design, what they NEED are enough features to make this $3000 electric razor worth the scratch!
slughead at 2007-11-17 10:18:48 >
# 26 Re: Do you guys want dual optical drives built into next PowerMac tower? - AppleIn
Originally posted by smalM
Who cares? You have a floppy drive on the the PC too and seriell port, parallel port, and PS2 ports...
I consider these just as unnecessarily as the second optical drive I kicked out of my G4 FW800.

While PS/2 ports are unnecesary since Macs use USB for kb/mouse, a parallel port would be nice (my HP 4000 Laser printer didn't come with a usb/network connection). Serial ports...meh...no opinion, although it would be nice. Some stuff still uses it (STAMP Editor). While most of these ports are unneccesary on anything other than PowerMacs (ie: iMacs, eMacs, PB, iBook, Mac Mini), this IS supposed to be a top-of-the-line machine, and should therefore include all the ports found on PC's.

As for floppy drives, on all the Macs on the Tufts campus that I've seen, all have external floppy drives right next to them. However, I don't really have an opinion as to whether they should be included or not...could call for another thread.

EDIT: And now for the purpose of this thread...dual opticals would be really nice. After all, they were available on some G4's, and that case is already so f-ing huge.
mynamehere at 2007-11-17 10:19:48 >
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