Terror in London
A series of bus and subway attacks kills 40 and injures 300. Blair makes remarks and leaves G8 summit.
Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/07/AR2005070700221_pf.html
First, let me say my prayers are with the families of those killed, with the injured, and with British people. May you find who is responsible and kill them.
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SDW2001] at [2007-11-15 21:57:15]
# 1 Re: Terror in London
Please don't talk of more killing today, thankyou. There is also a sticky thread in AO at the moment.
# 2 Re: Terror in London
Heartfelt condolences to our fellows - the Brits.
For those of you in London, this was as much an attack on the US as it was on you. We consider you guys our brothers and sisters.
Stay strong. Be steadfast and remember our prayers and thoughts are with you.
# 3 Re: Terror in London
My suggestion is to take the Appleoutsider dimension (the human POV) today and the more political implications tomorrow. Let the discussion continue in the pinned thread in Appleoutsider (http://forums.appleinsider.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=24). I have copied the posts into the thread over there.
Anders at 2007-11-17 16:08:05 >
# 4 Re: Terror in London
If there is a more defiant and resilient public to attack than the Brits, I can't think of any, so these attacks will gain the attackers absolutely nothing.
May the public avoid feelings of revenge against bystander Muslims, i.e. not take this as a freebie to act as badly as the attackers.
Peace won't come from matching violence against innocent civilians with yet more violence against innocent civilians.
All my compassion to the British people. Civilians are not to blame for policies.
johnq at 2007-11-17 16:09:11 >
# 5 Re: Terror in London
Originally posted by Anders
My suggestion is to take the Appleoutsider dimension (the human POV) today and the more political implications tomorrow. Let the discussion continue in the pinned thread in Appleoutsider (http://forums.appleinsider.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=24). I have copied the posts into the thread over there. Truely this is a horrible day for London and the entire civilised world. Passionate anger, on an international level is a very reasonable human reaction. The only way to stop the canage is to kill the terrorists.
# 6 Re: Terror in London
Originally posted by a_greer
Truely this is a horrible day for London and the entire civilised world. Passionate anger, on an international level is a very reasonable human reaction. The only way to stop the canage is to kill the terrorists.
:no: The "terrorists" are expendable even to themselves. "Killing them" is just busy work.
Stop the sources of powerlessness and disenfranchisement these people have and show them that we are not the murderous empires raping their lands for oil that they are told we are and that democracy is more than a code word for "reason to occupy your country until the oil is sucked dry".
Feeling angry is natural. But acting in anger is precisely what "they" want. Act with a cool, focused intent for justice, not revenge.
johnq at 2007-11-17 16:11:10 >
# 7 Re: Terror in London
Originally posted by johnq
Feeling angry is natural. But acting in anger is precisely what "they" want. Act with a cool, focused intent for justice, not revenge.
could not phrase it better. Excact my feelings.
# 8 Re: Terror in London
Let the "blame the US"-fest begin.
It seems to be the rallying cry of the left.
It has already started as of about 8:00 am EST.
Sego, you got any info on how the CIA actually planned this one?
# 9 Re: Terror in London
Originally posted by NaplesX
Let the "blame the US"-fest begin.
It seems to be the rallying cry of the left.
It has already started as of about 8:00 am EST.
Sego, you got any info on how the CIA actually planned this one?
Hey! Many have said over the last several years that things would get worse because of it's policies. Don't get upset because it was the truth!
jimmac at 2007-11-17 16:14:15 >
# 10 Re: Terror in London
Please disregard the last post by Naples. I dont want to lock the thread.
Anders at 2007-11-17 16:15:16 >
# 11 Re: Terror in London
<typed before Anders' post, but a general comment anyway>
There are no angels, all the governments of the world do all kinds of terrible things.
As for people, they are what they are. Emotions push and pull us around, that's why we need true leaders, so they can guide us, not obey our every whim.
You don't get peace with violence, you only trade your suffering for the suffering of someone over the horizon out of reach of your ears and eyes. You get a comforting indifference, which is just selfishness.
Peace isn't survival of the fittest, kill or be killed. We are better than that - better than animals. That's the whole point to being human, right? That we can rise above the animal instincts? We can try, eh?
I really get the feeling some people think peace means what you get when everyone else is dead.
But at home, we learn to solve problems, not kill our parents, right? Then again...I wonder these days.
johnq at 2007-11-17 16:16:15 >
# 12 Re: Terror in London
My heart goes out to all in London with the news of this terror. It is my prayer that the people of our world can come to a table of peace and learn to love each of our neighbors as ourselves.
May our world come to know peace and may the victoms of these attacks in London and their families be comforted.
With sorrow and extended love,
Fellowship
# 13 Re: Terror in London
It is being reported that these attacks are in retaliation to England's involvement in Iraq, just like in spain.
England and the US went there to topple a dictator that was brutal to fellow muslims. What exactly are they bombing England for?
Shouldn't they be thanking England instead of bombing them?
They hate Jews, Christians, and a whole slew of western values and interests, if Iraq was suddenly pulled from the equation, who thinks that the situation would suddenly change? Not I.
The US did not cause this, evil radical murderous muslims did. But we all know some here will blame the US. Give it a week or so.
I wonder if these guys trained at the infamous Salman Pak facility. You remember the one that had train cars, an airplane fuselage, and a double decker bus?
# 14 Re: Terror in London
edit: let's be cool. This is still a bit fresh.
# 15 Re: Terror in London
Where is the outrage from Muslim leaders around the world?
All I hear is crickets...
# 16 Re: Terror in London
Originally posted by NaplesX
Where is the outrage from Muslim leaders around the world?
All I hear is crickets...
Dude, firstly, stop it. People have just been killed in my city.
Secondly, I've already heard a Muslim leader on Radio 4 condemning this, and unless you're monitoring every media channel assiduously, less of the implications that Muslim people around the planet are actually in favour of killing innocents.
# 17 Re: Terror in London
Originally posted by NaplesX
Where is the outrage from Muslim leaders around the world?
All I hear is crickets...
hey dude, show some decency. ok?
New at 2007-11-17 16:22:20 >
# 18 Re: Terror in London
Originally posted by Anders
Please disregard the last post by Naples. I dont want to lock the thread. I am having a hard time not saying something to this...neanderthal.
This is a terrible tragedy. I hope the families of the dead and the injured find the strength to cope with their loss and the horrific experience. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
Gilsch at 2007-11-17 16:23:25 >
# 19 Re: Terror in London
Eeeeverybody chill. There's been some bad shit, and bad shit is bad, mmkay?
Everybody be cool. Thanks very much for your condolences. :) No nastiness.
# 20 Re: Terror in London
Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah
Dude, firstly, stop it. People have just been killed in my city.
Secondly, I've already heard a Muslim leader on Radio 4 condemning this, and unless you're monitoring every media channel assiduously, less of the implications that Muslim people around the planet are actually in favour of killing innocents. I did here that. But what exactly do you expect Muslims in London to say right now?
Just like after 9/11, they are very aware of the outrage and the possibility that they might be connected to the tragic and outrageous events. Where is Iran, Palestine, Syria, and others. They are celebrating, that's where.
# 21 Re: Terror in London
Originally posted by NaplesX
Where is the outrage from Muslim leaders around the world?
All I hear is crickets...
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH NaplesX
Show some respect to this day and cut out the ignorant statments.
My God have you no shame.
Fellows
# 22 Re: Terror in London
STFU, naples ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4660411.stm)
Have some respect
giant at 2007-11-17 16:27:31 >
# 23 Re: Terror in London
Originally posted by NaplesX
I did here that. But what exactly do you expect Muslims in London to say right now?
Just like after 9/11, they are very aware of the outrage and the possibility that they might be connected to the tragic and outrageous events. Where is Iran, Palestine, Syria, and others. They are celebrating, that's where.
Are they really?
I suggest that you stop posting in this thread for the next day, unless you can show some degree of tact.
To the other posters, please discuss this issue without taking his bait.
# 24 Re: Terror in London
NaplesX, seriously, this will quickly become the be-all, end-all STFU thread if you don't take it elsewhere.
now, for someone like myself who doesn't have a point to make amid bloodshed, i just want to extend sorrow and thoughts to those injured or killed in the attacks, as well as those left behind. my wife knows a lot of people over there from her work, and i know she is concerned that some of them may have been travelling the tube this morning.
rok at 2007-11-17 16:29:32 >
# 25 Re: Terror in London
I'm locking this thread. It is redundant and loaded with race-hatred dynamite.
Take all news and positive discussion to the AO thread (http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=55830). Keep all the political crap in a hole until tomorrow.
We can wait a day to start screaming at each other.
