Find your Political Compass
Here is an interesting test that determines where on the political left-right scales you sit. The results should be quite interesting.
Take the test here: http://www.politicalcompass.org/
Please post your results back here, but don't discuss them or how the test works in to much detail. I will graph them and post it later after there are a a few responses.
Mine:
Economic: -2.88
Social: -1.28
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PosterBoy] at [2007-11-15 19:00:24]

# 1 Re: Find your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.49
I've never quite managed to break -9.49. :\ *shrugs* :p
ShawnJ at 2007-11-17 16:12:30 >

# 2 Re: Find your Political Compass
I've never quite managed to break -9.49.
Are you trying to do it, or are you answering honestly? Just curious. ;)
# 3 Re: Find your Political Compass
Originally posted by PosterBoy
<b>I've never quite managed to break -9.49. </b>
Are you trying to do it, or are you answering honestly? Just curious. ;)
Well, the last magazine I read in Borders Bookstore the other day was International Socialist Review. ;)
ShawnJ at 2007-11-17 16:14:39 >

# 4 Re: Find your Political Compass
Seriously. This is my honest score:
Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.36
My compatriots in the quad are Ghandi, Mandela and the Dalai Lama. Oh... and ShawnJ. And probably Bunge, Harald, SPJ, and Giant.
tonton at 2007-11-17 16:15:34 >

# 5 Re: Find your Political Compass
The test is much too stationary in the spacial/time grid to be useful ;)
Anders at 2007-11-17 16:16:33 >

# 6 Re: Find your Political Compass
Mine was.....
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 4.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.41
How can it be a true political compass when all it gives you is the option to agree or disagree with left leaning comments?
Where are statements like this?
I believe it fundamentally fair that the top 20% of income earners pay 80% of all taxes. (SA, A, D, SD)
I believe that the strongest country in the world should police disagreements between less able countries in the world.
I believe all business should not be state owned and used for the common good.
I believe that being free from being offended is not a fundimental right.
Where are those questions?
Nick
# 7 Re: Find your Political Compass
(Questions by Trumptman)
I believe it fundamentally fair that the top 20% of income earners pay 80% of all taxes. (SA, A, D, SD)
SA
How about this question:
I believe it fundamentally fair that the top 20% of income earners earn 80% of all income.
I believe that the strongest country in the world should police disagreements between less able countries in the world.
SD
Whenever there's a "it depends" i need to select strongly disagree.
In this case, it depends on the projected outcome, not the intent.
I believe all business should not be state owned (no) and used for the common good (mostly).
SD/A (that's a horribly worded question, as there are two completely unrelated questions inside -- you're really not very good at this, are you?)
I believe that being free from being offended is not a fundimental right.
SA
Anything in the world you do is going to offend someone. If you offend me, I'll sure as hell tell you that you did it, but I won't take away your right to do it.
Does that answer your question, Mr. Smarty Pants?
tonton at 2007-11-17 16:18:37 >

# 8 Re: Find your Political Compass
Originally posted by tonton
Seriously. This is my honest score:
Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.36
My compatriots in the quad are Ghandi, Mandela and the Dalai Lama. Oh... and ShawnJ. And probably Bunge, Harald, SPJ, and Giant.
Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.90
Howdy neighbor!
bunge at 2007-11-17 16:19:40 >

# 9 Re: Find your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.38
(I think I pissed it off by saying that the mother's primary job should be housemaker. Any parents' primary job should be child-rearing.)
# 10 Re: Find your Political Compass
Originally posted by groverat
(I think I pissed it off by saying that the mother's primary job should be housemaker. Any parents' primary job should be child-rearing.)
And thats the problem with this poll. A linear four way outcome to a question will never catch the true intention of the questioned.
Anders at 2007-11-17 16:21:39 >

# 11 Re: Find your Political Compass
Graph of Responses thus far (http://homepage.mac.com/mcsimpson/desktops/compass.jpg)
Blue dots are responses from AppleInsider
Red dots are responses from ehMac.ca
I'll update it as more responses come in.
Yes, I was a little bored when I decided to do this, but I think it's interesting.
# 12 Re: Find your Political Compass
+3, +5
# 13 Re: Find your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.05
Anders at 2007-11-17 16:24:42 >

# 14 Re: Find your Political Compass
Originally posted by PosterBoy
Graph of Responses thus far (http://homepage.mac.com/mcsimpson/desktops/compass.jpg)
Blue dots are responses from AppleInsider
Red dots are responses from ehMac.ca
I'll update it as more responses come in.
Yes, I was a little bored when I decided to do this, but I think it's interesting.
Please add names if you can
Anders at 2007-11-17 16:25:49 >

# 15 Re: Find your Political Compass
Originally posted by tonton
(Questions by Trumptman)
I believe it fundamentally fair that the top 20% of income earners pay 80% of all taxes. (SA, A, D, SD)
SA
How about this question:
I believe it fundamentally fair that the top 20% of income earners earn 80% of all income.
I believe that the strongest country in the world should police disagreements between less able countries in the world.
SD
Whenever there's a "it depends" i need to select strongly disagree.
In this case, it depends on the projected outcome, not the intent.
I believe all business should not be state owned (no) and used for the common good (mostly).
SD/A (that's a horribly worded question, as there are two completely unrelated questions inside -- you're really not very good at this, are you?)
I believe that being free from being offended is not a fundimental right.
SA
Anything in the world you do is going to offend someone. If you offend me, I'll sure as hell tell you that you did it, but I won't take away your right to do it.
Does that answer your question, Mr. Smarty Pants?
My point, and no I didn't claim to be perfect about writing questions to determine a person's political compass, really should have you agreeing and disagreeing with statements from all foun views. Instead with this survey if you disagree with a liberal statement, it labels you more conservative. To be fair it should have conservative statements that you have to disagree with in order to also be liberal. Likewise for authoritarian vs. libertarian.
There are some very liberal people on here who sometimes come across very authoritarian. This survey doesn't appear to have caught that because it only asks them to disagree with libertarian statements to move toward authoritarian.
Here's a good example. (Feel free to tweak the questions if you feel they are unclear.)
Abortion is a fundamental right. (Could indicate liberal perspective)
It is okay to use abortion for gender selection, genetic deformities, and for population control. (Could indicate authoritarian perspective even while supporting abortion rights)
Nick
# 16 Re: Find your Political Compass
Originally posted by Anders
Please add names if you can
I see mine! :lol:
ShawnJ at 2007-11-17 16:27:46 >

# 17 Re: Find your Political Compass
Originally posted by ShawnJ
I see mine! :lol:
I see mine as well. It is the only one on the line and to the right.
Did you see this page?
Presidential candidates (http://http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/usprimaries.html/)
Despite all the evil intentions I am assigned by some here, it appears that I would be more liberal and even more libertarian than Howard Dean!!
That means that you would have to support ME in the next election.:lol:
Nick
# 18 Re: Find your Political Compass
Originally posted by Anders
Please add names if you can
Can, and will, later tonight or early tomorrow.
Graph! ( http://homepage.mac.com/mcsimpson/desktops/compass.jpg)
# 19 Re: Find your Political Compass
What's interesting to me about your graph is that 1) there's so much concentration in one quadrant, which suggests a serious problem with the questions, and 2) if anything there seems to be a correlation between libertarianism and economic left-ism. The reason I think that's interesting is that so many conservatives consider themselves libertarian-leaning, but this graph seems to suggest the opposite, that the right is authoritarian-leaning and the left is libertarian-leaning.
# 20 Re: Find your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.82
SpcMs at 2007-11-17 16:31:48 >

# 21 Re: Find your Political Compass
Originally posted by BRussell
What's interesting to me about your graph is that 1) there's so much concentration in one quadrant, which suggests a serious problem with the questions, and 2) if anything there seems to be a correlation between libertarianism and economic left-ism. The reason I think that's interesting is that so many conservatives consider themselves libertarian-leaning, but this graph seems to suggest the opposite, that the right is authoritarian-leaning and the left is libertarian-leaning.
Or it could just suggest a lot of hypocrisy by those answering the questions.
"I have a political philosophy like Gandhi."
Really, you have no need for material goods, and are fasting to bring about the end of any aggression you see?
"Naw, actually I'm playing on my powerbook, driving my import, and I'm going to go catch a movie and buy some cd's with my girl later...but my heart is in the right place..."
Hahahahaha...
Nick
# 22 Re: Find your Political Compass
Originally posted by trumptman
Or it could just suggest a lot of hypocrisy by those answering the questions.
"I have a political philosophy like Gandhi."
Really, you have no need for material goods, and are fasting to bring about the end of any aggression you see?
"Naw, actually I'm playing on my powerbook, driving my import, and I'm going to go catch a movie and buy some cd's with my girl later...but my heart is in the right place..."
Hahahahaha...
Nick
BULLSEYE.
Its not often I say that about one of your posts T
Anders at 2007-11-17 16:33:53 >

# 23 Re: Find your Political Compass
Except no one claimed to "have a political philosophy like Gandhi." tonton merely named the other people in his quadrant-- which does suggest some similarities-- but differences as well. I'm not sure the graph accounts for those differences. :\
ShawnJ at 2007-11-17 16:34:54 >

# 24 Re: Find your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.90
Fun fun FUN!
# 25 Re: Find your Political Compass
Originally posted by ShawnJ
Except no one claimed to "have a political philosophy like Gandhi." tonton merely named the other people in his quadrant-- which does suggest some similarities-- but differences as well. I'm not sure the graph accounts for those differences. :\
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/images/axeswithnames.gif
Who wants to in the quadrant with Hitler?
Anders at 2007-11-17 16:36:59 >

# 26 Re: Find your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.10
123 at 2007-11-17 16:38:00 >

# 27 Re: Find your Political Compass
I got -4 for economic left and -5 for social libertarian.
Right next to the Dalai Lama. :lol:
# 28 Re: Find your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.77
# 29 Re: Find your Political Compass
Anders your post reminds me of a Tampax commercial.
tonton you forgot about me!!
Yeah that site is cool. Got a Economic Left/Right: -5.75 and a Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.31
I support the death penalty and think we should kill of any serial killer for example. It's way underutilized. at the same time I think rehabilitation is way more important to focus on than punishment, as it's cheaper, and simply works better. At least for things like drug addicts. People like Rush Limbaugh and Martha Stewart, white collar criminals, I would consider jail "rehabilitation." I scored more Libertarian than last time. I actually think Republicans and Bushies are more at odds with Libertarians that Democrats over a lot of issues now. Odd.
# 30 Re: Find your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.08
Ra at 2007-11-17 16:42:01 >

# 31 Re: Find your Political Compass
You're a relatively central Canadian rascal if I ever met one PB.
# 32 Re: Find your Political Compass
The results thus far possibly suggest a couple of things to me:
a) That the test is flawed. Left results seem to be skewed libertarian, whereas right results seem to be skewed authoritarian.
b) That there really is a direct correlation between being left and being libertarian, being right and authoritarian, and that being either a left-authoritarian or a right-libertarian is an outlier, an oddity.
c) That respondents have a pretty good idea where they want to end up before hand.
It's still interesting, though.
# 33 Re: Find your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.33
Xool at 2007-11-17 16:45:07 >

# 34 Re: Find your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -8.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.62
Damn. I so wanted to beat you Shawn. Curses!
See, that's what happens when you get old. You turn into a tolerant, wishy-washy, moderate. :lol:
# 35 Re: Find your Political Compass
I had to put aside the fact that a lot of the questions didn't make sense with the answers to choose from. So I got this score.
Economic Left/Right: 1.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.00
Scott at 2007-11-17 16:47:06 >

# 36 Re: Find your Political Compass
Originally posted by trumptman
My point, and no I didn't claim to be perfect about writing questions to determine a person's political compass, really should have you agreeing and disagreeing with statements from all foun views. Instead with this survey if you disagree with a liberal statement, it labels you more conservative. To be fair it should have conservative statements that you have to disagree with in order to also be liberal. Likewise for authoritarian vs. libertarian.
There are some very liberal people on here who sometimes come across very authoritarian. This survey doesn't appear to have caught that because it only asks them to disagree with libertarian statements to move toward authoritarian.
Here's a good example. (Feel free to tweak the questions if you feel they are unclear.)
Abortion is a fundamental right. (Could indicate liberal perspective)
It is okay to use abortion for gender selection, genetic deformities, and for population control. (Could indicate authoritarian perspective even while supporting abortion rights)
Nick
Get your point, Nick. Actually, to be honest, the poll did seem to lean left a little.
tonton at 2007-11-17 16:48:07 >

# 37 Re: Find your Political Compass
I got -4,-2 apx, however, Many of the questions I couldn't answer honestly in context. For instance
I strongly agree that ultimately large corporations need to be successful for the good of us all, but I strongly disagree with this from my moral standpoint. I wish there was a better way.
# 38 Re: Find your Political Compass
Graph ( http://homepage.mac.com/mcsimpson/desktops/compass.jpg), Updated.
# 39 Re: Find your Political Compass
Originally posted by PosterBoy
Graph (http://homepage.mac.com/mcsimpson/desktops/compass.jpg), Updated.
It looks like Shawn's leading us all away from...who's the fascist up in the top right quadrant....Why Common Man I do believe it's you! :lol:
Run away! Run away! Help us escape from the Fascists and Neo-Liberals to the beautiful Land of Communism, Oh Left Leaning Shawn!
(Now Common Man that's what you call a joke so don't get all upset and do something stupid like wake a mod or admin from their slumber, OK?)
Graphs are grouse. :)
# 40 Re: Find your Political Compass
Midwinter scored -10.00 and -9.03, so add that to your list, PosterBoy.
The three of us should start a revolution. (Midwinter and CrazyAussie)
ShawnJ at 2007-11-17 16:52:10 >

# 41 Re: Find your Political Compass
Originally posted by ShawnJ
Midwinter scored -10.00 and -9.03, so add that to your list, PosterBoy.
The three of us should start a revolution. (Midwinter and CrazyAussie)
Oh no please not another one. One revolution a year is more than enough.
Damn, now I'm not second anymore. Shitbags. Anybody squeezes me out of third place, you DIE!
# 42 Re: Find your Political Compass
as near to -5, -5 as you can get... seems i am in a dark mood though...
# 43 Re: Find your Political Compass
Those of you wishing to get a better look at the numbers, you can do so here ( http://homepage.mac.com/mcsimpson/desktops/compass.htm)
I'll add more analysis later.
# 44 Re: Find your Political Compass
Economic: -2.00
Social: -3.28
It describes my political stands closely enough, but not with precision.
It seems still mired in postwar left British political perspective and bemoans that most on the political mainstream left admits the pragmatic adequacy of at least some privatisations:
Social Democratic parties adopting - reluctantly or enthusiastically - the new economic libertarian orthodoxy (neo-liberalism).
Leaving one wandering how come the concerned countries still have social security, progressive income tax, and in many cases even universal heathcare.
On the other hand, while laissez-faire rhetoric is being fashionable for the last twenty years, it failed to yield any actual Victorian renaissance, and although the confidence in the postwar mixed-economy model (or bourgeois-democracy if you must) has been quite eroded, no working alternative is currently implemented in developed western countries, whether from the side of the market-cult plutocrats, or from the side of the sessantottista total-revolution kooks.
In the meanwhile the louder leftist empty rhetoric (mostly from the far left) has replaced the Third-Estate by the Third-World in the role of the meeks worthy to inherit the earth, with a measure of antirationalist spirituality thrown in.
Should the People's Republic of China achieve a stable and functional model of laissez-faire economy in a totalitarian regime (or perhaps in a milder authoritarian form), it will be considered a viable alternative from swaths of both the right and the left, to the already slandered (notably on this very board) model of modern representative democracy; as these fellows have longings for a strong leadership to guide them and make them feel like they belong, as do most rebellious youth.
# 45 Re: Find your Political Compass
I'll throw my results in, it appears that according to this questionare, I am really close to the viewpoints of Tony Blair. Surprising to me, I always considered myself more the the "right" than that.
Economic Left/Right: 2.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.56
# 46 Re: Find your Political Compass
Hello,
I have Excel working for me on these numbers now. I have added all the latest replies, as well as a chart of the sample means.
You can check it out here (http://homepage.mac.com/mcsimpson/desktops/compass.htm)
Are there any analyses that anyone would like to see? Regression lines, etc?
# 47 Re: Find your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -1.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.23
Nice concept.
# 48 Re: Find your Political Compass
Is it me, but are all the smartest people in the bottom left quardant?;) :lol:
# 49 Re: Find your Political Compass
-3.50
-2.10
hardly a shock..
tmp at 2007-11-17 17:01:20 >

# 50 Re: Find your Political Compass
I think you've missed midwinter's scores.
Seems to me this exhaustive research leads us to conclude the following:
1. While Mac users are overwhelmingly a bunch of left-wing ratbags, those who aren't are most likely to be fascist pig dogs. ;)
2. ehMac is the most left-wing, Macrumors is the most right-wing but AI has the most extremists.
Too bad we can't make some comparisons with Windows users.
Thanks for your efforts PosterBoy this is highly entertaining stuff in a totally meaningless kind of way.
# 51 Re: Find your Political Compass
Yay for extremists!
ShawnJ at 2007-11-17 17:03:23 >

# 52 Re: Find your Political Compass
Originally posted by crazychester
I think you've missed midwinter's scores.
I did! Thanks for pointing that out to me (again) :)
Too bad we can't make some comparisons with Windows users.
Unless I hop onto a PC forum and post the poll there....
Thanks for your efforts PosterBoy this is highly entertaining stuff in a totally meaningless kind of way.
Isn't it just? I'll keep adding numbers as long as people keep posting them, too.
And here is the graph (http://homepage.mac.com/mcsimpson/desktops/compass.htm), updated again.