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iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum

Now THAT's what I'm talking about. Opera on the P800 renders published iCals in a single window with dates to click on and beautifully simple layout. No mega graphics, nice and quick to load, up to the minute information.

I put something in my iCal ... it's on a mobile-friendly format straight away. In other words, synced.

Yum.
[362 byte] By [Harald] at [2007-11-15 11:06:29]
# 1 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
yummy!

but what about the other way harald? can you enter...

(of course not, but wouldn't it be good if you could...) :D
othello at 2007-11-17 11:20:43 >
# 2 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
How about some screenshots, Harald, for those of us who are still on the fence about iCal and the P800. ;)

Also, can you actually import the published iCal calendar? Or do you have to be on the air with your P800 to access the calendar?

Escher

[ 03-12-2003: Message edited by: Escher ]</p>
Escher at 2007-11-17 11:21:41 >
# 3 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
[I've been trying to find the P800 thread that Harald started a while ago, but it seems to have gone...]

Harald, can I ask you a question about the P800 -- what do you think of it as a PDA?

I have an old Palm IIIc, which is giving up the ghost (and looks like a brick compared to my wife's Sony Clie!). I want to have my PDA bluetooth-ed up to connect to my phone, so have been looking at getting a Palm Tungsten, but thought 'but a P800 would have everything in'.

So it all depends how it stands up as a PDA really...
othello at 2007-11-17 11:22:40 >
# 4 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
[quote]Originally posted by othello:
<strong>I want to have my PDA bluetooth-ed up to connect to my phone, so have been looking at getting a Palm Tungsten, but thought 'but a P800 would have everything in'.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I've been wanting to replace my Palm IIIxe and enter the color, Bluetooth, GPRS age. But I'm still uncertain as to what to do. Right this moment, I'm trying to find a Palm-based smartphone, so that I could keep using Palm apps. But none of the Palm-phones seem to have Bluetooth.

Samsung just annoucned the <a href="http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=5108" target="_blank">SPH-i500</a>, which looks sweet except for the lack of BT.

<a href="http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=5108" target="_blank">http://www.palminfocenter.com/images/sgh_i500_c.jpg</a>

The Handspring Treo 300 (CDMA) or 270 (GSM) still look good, but also lack BT.

Dunno...

Escher

[ 03-13-2003: Message edited by: Escher ]</p>
Escher at 2007-11-17 11:23:41 >
# 5 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
[quote]Originally posted by Escher:
<strong>How about some screenshots, Harald, for those of us who are still on the fence about iCal and the P800. ;)

Also, can you actually import the published iCal calendar? Or do you have to be on the air with your P800 to access the calendar?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Who wants the screenies?

Nope, you can't import it.

As a PDA, it's better then my Palm used to be, no question. No question at all at all.
Harald at 2007-11-17 11:24:49 >
# 6 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
show me the screenies!

:D
othello at 2007-11-17 11:25:44 >
# 7 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
[quote]Originally posted by othello:
<strong>show me the screenies!

:D </strong><hr></blockquote>

Avec plaisir. PM your email address. I don't have a way to host them.
Harald at 2007-11-17 11:26:45 >
# 8 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
[quote]Originally posted by Harald:
<strong>

Avec plaisir. PM your email address. I don't have a way to host them.</strong><hr></blockquote>

harald just upload them to my iDisk again
Paul at 2007-11-17 11:27:45 >
# 9 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
sorry harald, yet another question!

just had a play with the P800 *again* today while out at lunch. how do you find the stylus? i'm quite used to the palm stylus, but this one was very slim -- any problems with lots of use?

i'm so close to buying one and my wife is going to go mad...

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
othello at 2007-11-17 11:28:52 >
# 10 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
The stylus is fine. Not as nice as a solid Palm one, but for what you use it for it's great. I've never complained about it.
Harald at 2007-11-17 11:29:50 >
# 11 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
Well it's suppose to be in the US by the end of march if any of you guys hear of any deals let me know... I wish it was a bit smaller and was made by Apple ;) but I really need to replace both my palm and my phone and this looks like the best bet
Producer at 2007-11-17 11:30:47 >
# 12 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
thats what i'm doing -- my IIIc is giving up the ghost.

so, for the same price as a palm tungsten i can get one of these. 299.99 with a new contract or 329.99 upgrade here in the UK.
othello at 2007-11-17 11:31:55 >
# 13 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
[quote]Originally posted by Harald:
<strong>Who wants the screenies?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Thanks for getting us back on topic, Harald. It's a real shame that you can't import the published calendar. I really can't believe that Apple and SE haven't gotten their sync act together yet. I can't help but suspect that there are political/marketing motives holding up P800-Mac compatibility. For cryin' out loud, Apple can post scripts for SE clicker, but they can't make iSync work with the P800?

[quote]<strong>As a PDA, it's better then my Palm used to be, no question.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I guess it depends on what you define as a PDA. I have no doubt that the P800 at least equals a Palm with the two traditional PDA functions - calendaring and contact-keeping. But what about running 3rd-party software? It's just a shame that the P800 (and many other smartphones) can't run the thousands of Palm apps available and that developers have to write all their software anew, in languages like Java (J2E) and Mophun.

Escher
Escher at 2007-11-17 11:32:50 >
# 14 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
[quote]Originally posted by othello:
<strong>[I've been trying to find the P800 thread that Harald started a while ago, but it seems to have gone...]</strong><hr></blockquote>

PS: Harald's original long P800 thread is <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=8&t=000465" target="_blank">right here</a>, othello.
Escher at 2007-11-17 11:33:51 >
# 15 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
[quote]Originally posted by Escher:
<strong>

PS: Harald's original long P800 thread is <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=8&t=000465" target="_blank">right here</a>, othello.</strong><hr></blockquote>

thanks and sorry for going off-topic...
othello at 2007-11-17 11:35:00 >
# 16 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
[quote]Originally posted by othello:
<strong>thanks and sorry for going off-topic...</strong><hr></blockquote>

No worries at all, othello. I was just trying to help. It's a narrow topic and I'm about to go further off-topic. ;)

It looks like the smartphone competition is heating up. The US FCC just released details of Motorola's upcoming A920 Smartphone. According to an <a href="http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/3244.html" target="_blank">InfoSync.no article</a>, the A920 "runs on Symbian OS with the UIQ platform atop: the exact same combination as used in Sony Ericsson's P800."

http://www.infosync.no/news/2003/03/14/gfx/motorola_a920_01.jpg

Escher
Escher at 2007-11-17 11:35:51 >
# 17 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
Sorry, but after looking at that old P800 thread, I have come to the conclusion that that thing is just too freakin' big. And I was kinda planning on getting one.

Does anyone know the size of the T610 in relation to the P800? Because that was kinda my next choice...
Steve at 2007-11-17 11:36:54 >
# 18 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
[quote]Originally posted by Escher:
<strong> But what about running 3rd-party software? It's just a shame that the P800 (and many other smartphones) can't run the thousands of Palm apps available and that developers have to write all their software anew, in languages like Java (J2E) and Mophun.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Aha!

They've just made a booster available from AppForge ... which means all those VB programmes written for handhelds work out the box. So ... your cookery programme, timers, golf card, expenses ... bloody everything works out the box.

Have a <a href="http://scripts.appforge.com/app_exchange/samples.asp?action=showCat&cat=CAT00027&plt=plt00005" target="_blank">peek.</a>
Harald at 2007-11-17 11:37:56 >
# 19 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
Lame. The P800 has a calendar app for a reason.
wmf at 2007-11-17 11:39:03 >
# 20 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
my P800 has just arrived! wohoo!!

sorry, had to tell everyone!!

:D :D
othello at 2007-11-17 11:40:04 >
# 21 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
Originally posted by othello
my P800 has just arrived! wohoo!!

Congratulations on the arrival, othello. Play with it and then report back to the AI smartphone crowd! It will be nice to supplement Harald's extensive reports.

By the way: Did anybody else see the article on O'Grady's PowerPage about (obviously long-expected) P800-compatibility (http://www.powerpage.org/story.lasso?newsID=10760) in an upcoming version of iSync? Unfortunately, Jason doesn't seem to know anything we haven't already figured out here.

Escher
Escher at 2007-11-17 11:41:00 >
# 22 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
well, i have only just got my P800 up and running, due to having to wait for a new SIM card from Vodafone. Have not configured it at all yet, but have managed to get my PB to see it via bluetooth (and vice-a-versa). Yet file exchange won't work for some reason -- says this device isn't supported, which is annoying as Harald has it working!

Going to give it a serious test tonight and post over the weekend
othello at 2007-11-17 11:41:58 >
# 23 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
Originally posted by Harald
They've just made a booster available from AppForge ... which means all those VB programmes written for handhelds work out the box.

Sure. But this still requires that developers write in VB, take the time to recompile for Symbian/Java/P800, and distribute the recompiled program to the public.

On a semi-related note: Does anybody think that the moving of WWDC from May in San Jose to June in San Francisco has anything to do with the purely hypothetical iPhone? Harald?

othello: Good luck with the setup. We all look forward to your success and report. ;)

Escher
Escher at 2007-11-17 11:43:08 >
# 24 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
Originally posted by Escher
Sure. But this still requires that developers write in VB, take the time to recompile for Symbian/Java/P800, and distribute the recompiled program to the public.

On a semi-related note: Does anybody think that the moving of WWDC from May in San Jose to June in San Francisco has anything to do with the purely hypothetical iPhone? Harald?

othello: Good luck with the setup. We all look forward to your success and report. ;)

Escher

1) You're right about the issues with development I guess.

2) I have no info at all about that, but my PERSONAL feeling is that's a time to say "Look at 64 bit Panther! Look at PPC 970! Uh, don't tell anyone now!" before a public announcement of both in July and a late September ship. But that's a different thread. Plus my hypothesis was a May launch for iPhone.

3) Othello, welcome aboard. If you're having trouble and I can help PM me, else good luck with your new friend :)
Harald at 2007-11-17 11:44:08 >
# 25 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
[OT] Can anyone tell me exactly how big the P800 is in comparison to, say, the Nokia 7110? It's hard to tell from the pictures on the web and I will have no way of viewing a real one before placing my order.

Those Emame screenshots from one of links above just swung it for me!

Thanks!
string at 2007-11-17 11:45:01 >
# 26 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
search people.. thats what it is there for...

link ( http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16574)
look for my posts ;)
Paul at 2007-11-17 11:46:02 >
# 27 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
everything harald said about this beauty is true...

oh my gawd! its is fantastic and i only have minor niggles at the moment (like i hate the way the power charger connects -- its inviting someone as ham-fisted as me to snap the plastic clips)

blue-tooth file exchange is a joy. dragging vcards or .sis files (symbian apps) onto it is cute. uploads them then the P800 asks me if i want to install them -- it knows what they are and what to do with them.

i'm hoping that the 10.2.5 update, which has bluetooth updates, allows address book to recognise the phone. even though its not syncing, i used to use the send and receive SMS messages facility a lot with my 6310i.

now for isync...

:D
othello at 2007-11-17 11:47:07 >
# 28 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
from the times I have played with the P800 a) its still too bulky and b) its pretty slow

I'd wait for a v2 that is smaller, maybe has OLED screen, and faster.

Other than that, it is truly a fantastic little thang
ZO at 2007-11-17 11:48:12 >
# 29 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
So I've ordered my P800. Wile I'm waiting for that, are there any must-have extras I should get? I'm thinking the largest Memory Stick - would that be 128Mb? are all Memory Sticks the same or do I need a special type?

Thanks!
string at 2007-11-17 11:49:08 >
# 30 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
the purple mem sticks, up to 128MB. Dont get the white ones (Magic Gate). Unless of course, it requires the Magic Gate version. I dont have a P800 so I cant tell you.
ZO at 2007-11-17 11:50:09 >
# 31 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
thats a memory stick DUO and not the normal type. the 128mb ones are due out this week i believe, so you may not be able to get one right now...
othello at 2007-11-17 11:51:09 >
# 32 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
Hey, did I miss any screenshots?

Oh to be able to manage contacts and calendar...
drewprops at 2007-11-17 11:52:13 >
# 33 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
oh to be able to get my .ics files into the bloody thing! :mad:

at least getting the contacts in was sweet, but i keep putting off the idea of re-entering them. i'm following harald's suggestion of just viewing my ical online for the meantime
othello at 2007-11-17 11:53:13 >
# 34 Re: iCal + Publish + P800 + Opera = Yum
Originally posted by ZO
the purple mem sticks, up to 128MB. Dont get the white ones (Magic Gate). Unless of course, it requires the Magic Gate version. I dont have a P800 so I cant tell you.

FYI, you can use magic gate sticks, but they just appear as standard ones:

http://my-symbian.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4408
othello at 2007-11-17 11:54:17 >
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