The next osx killer feature
network transparency aka X11
think about it...if you've used unix
at all you know X11 best feature is
the ability to run apps from anywhere/any machine
& they simply show up on your desktop
m$ has implemented rdp as its terminal server
product but nothing comes close to what x11
can do & x11 is over 10 years old
implmenting that feature natively in aqua
would be killer...you could network into any other
mac & tranparently run apps on their machine
& have them show on your desktop
what do you guys think ?
[582 byte] By [
madmax559] at [2007-11-15 9:13:41]
# 1 Re: The next osx killer feature
Quartz is slow even on its own machine. It would be a lot slower on the network.
# 2 Re: The next osx killer feature
I agree. But I think that Madmax 559 meant transparency abstractly, not figuratively. You can sort of do that now; sharing Applications over a network, I mean.
# 3 Re: The next osx killer feature
the next killer os x feature?
getting it to run at least as fast as 9.2.2 :D
spooky at 2007-11-17 13:14:32 >
# 4 Re: The next osx killer feature
The next osx killer feature - AppleInsider
# 5 Re: The next osx killer feature
[quote]Originally Posted By spooky:
the next killer os x feature?
getting it to run at least as fast as 9.2.2 :D <hr></blockquote>
I don't know, Jag runs pretty well on a Dual 1.25 Ghz PM. I'm sure that it runs even better on a Dual 1.42 Ghz PM. It does run a bit slower on non-G4 machines, but it is usable. I have a B&W G3 PM and Jag runs amazing on it that it actually brings a tear to my eye because my comp is running a OS so well despite its age. Plus, I think with the 970 and 10.3 coming out later this year that we will hear no more about comparing the speed of 9.2.2. to X
# 6 Re: The next osx killer feature
Remote display is cool, but I don't think it benefits Apple's bottom line. Apple probably doesn't want to sell low-margin thin clients and they definitely don't want an office full of people buying one Mac and a bunch of third-party thin clients.
Hopefully Apple will add fast user switching, though.
wmf at 2007-11-17 13:17:33 >
# 7 Re: The next osx killer feature
The next major feature of Mac OS X will be 3D.
http://www.studio3d.com/images/For_Sale/ana_glasses_cyan.jpg
Instead of Jaguar the new OS will be marketed as
Mac OS X 10.3d
oh... and the glasses will be included, free!, in the box.
# 8 Re: The next osx killer feature
[quote]Originally posted by Chucker:
<strong>Quartz is slow even on its own machine. It would be a lot slower on the network.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Er, not necessarily. If you're pushing pixels (VNC), then yeah. That's the braindead way to do it. If you're sending drawing commands (X11/Display PostScript) then the difference is negligible. X11 is usable over a *9600 modem* in many cases. (Well okay, it was pre-R3.) NeXT's use of DPS was heavenly.
# 9 Re: The next osx killer feature
aha but the kicker here is this feature alone
would make people buy more macs beacuse
aqua is proprietory to apple.
if this feature exists then apple could make
a lightweight notepad type display device
(think star trek :tng etc etc here)
really low power cpu (motorola excels at embedded
cpu design) wi-fi & a 12" screen
all the device is really doing is displaying
windows as the drawing commands are sent from
whatever machine you "attach" to
you wouldnt need storage or even a full blown
os for that matter ...just a bare minimum display
subset..short of games you could actually run
anything somewhere & display it .
pete
[quote]Originally posted by wmf:
<strong>Remote display is cool, but I don't think it benefits Apple's bottom line. Apple probably doesn't want to sell low-margin thin clients and they definitely don't want an office full of people buying one Mac and a bunch of third-party thin clients.
Hopefully Apple will add fast user switching, though.</strong><hr></blockquote>
# 10 Re: The next osx killer feature
umm, there is an x11 server available for macosx made by apple. that allows you to run foreign x11 programs on your local monitor. third parties also make x11 servers. is <a href=" http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/" target="_blank">x11</a> what your talking about?
# 11 Re: The next osx killer feature
NO ...think of X11 at the base level...
i.e part of the os so its completely transparent
so display cmds go over the ip stack
& you can use rendevouz to discover machines
to attach to/get display data from
[quote]Originally posted by thuh Freak:
<strong>umm, there is an x11 server available for macosx made by apple. that allows you to run foreign x11 programs on your local monitor. third parties also make x11 servers. is <a href="http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/" target="_blank">x11</a> what your talking about?</strong><hr></blockquote>
# 12 Re: The next osx killer feature
I hope if Apple do do something like this, they do it through a secure tunnel, say SSH, so as to avoid the obvious security issues.
