"G5" == new case?

If there's a G5, there will also be a new case. I refuse to believe Apple would in any way sacrifice attention being drawn to this monumental development.

The issue is if a G5 is introduced. I'm inclined to doubt it.

- Pook

For once, I actually agree with JD. :eek: :p

I too, however, doubt the G5 will surface at MWSF. Even Apple isn't so dumb as to rename the Apollo the "G5"... or so I'd hope.

[quote]do think if you set the G3 next to the G4 you'd say, "that's a new case" <hr></blockquote>

No, I'd say "hey look they changed the color scheme!"

How about they make the new case look like a Firewire orange peripheral type thingy? So it's sort of a Biohazard orange with bad-ass black accents and maybe some Borg-like tubing running in and out of the case on it's side and in back. :p

The to synch with the iPod, one would just plug it into the "collective", and it would start making sounds and synthing speech to the effect of "upgrading is futile. You will open your wallet and prepare to pay for new hardware."

And then if the case goes to sleep that's the only way to open it up and put upgrades in, but it takes a special haxxor to insert the "sleep" command into the G5's collective conciousness.

Best of all, this new G5 would be shaped like a CUBE! But it would be a real cube: no candy-ass lucite, only bad-ass industrialized metal and plastic, with rubber coolant hoses winding in and out of the case. It would be so bad-ass that Apple would have to sell a "nice" version for women and children.

The Powermac G5 is gunna rock!!!!!!!!!!!!

What's the <a href="http://www.applele.jp" target="_blank">www.applele.jp</a> or something site with the apple mock ups, it's japanese or so?

They had a G4 tower that was a cross between the Cube and the TiBook. It was square and silver with metal handles. I think something along those lines would be cool.

[quote]Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg:
<strong>

The to synch with the iPod, one would just plug it into the "collective", and it would start making sounds and synthing speech to the effect of "upgrading is futile.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Riddle me this: Why, do you think, has Apple NOT put Firewire in more accessible locations like they have with USB (in the displays). Many companies are now designing their CPU's with IEEE 1394 ports on the front for easy accessibility.

We haven't seen this with iMacs or PowerMacs. Firewire built into the display or on the front of the machine would make it easier to "plug and play" with DV editing, iPod syncing, etc.

Could we see this in the new case revisions for both iMacs AND either PowerMacs or displays? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />

The current iMac design does have easy-access FireWire and USB. It's right there on the side.

The G4 had a new case in terms of the buying public. It was no longer a square smurf. Trust me: that's a new case.

As for a new form factor, which you should have said in the first place, I still say yes. This form has been around for a long time; Apple needs to keep the line fresh. You can say all you want about "if it ain't broke." I say bullocks to that. Why ever advance beyond our best technology? Why not look at the old BMW 7-series as say, "Ok, that's great. We're done, no more improvements!" Because then they new, better 7 would never come out.

- Pook

As long as they do

keep the handles
keep the easy open side door

and don't
put wacky patterns like flowers and blue/white dots :p

......I will be fine

Yeah, front access fw and usb ports are very convenient :)

[quote]Originally posted by Aphelion:
<strong>If it ain't broke... Well, ElCapitan/Quicksilver could use a couple of "tweeks", as are self evident (ie 2nd drive bay) but other than that, and maybe a cool glossy (black?) new color to set off the "G5" on the side would help... Actually, if it's a G5, they could put it in a beige box and I'd still want one.</strong><hr></blockquote>
give me a break. the current case sucks.

Apple survives on innovation and design. Believe it or not, people are likely more tempted to buy an Apple by its looks than its features (duh..). Having the same case design for 3 years does not help sales. It just makes it boring.

The current case has serious design flaws, shortcomings and just really isn't all that special. it's a metal box with plastic covers over it and a door on the side. I would like to think Apple could come up with and release a more daring design such as the cube.

the current Quicksilver case is a joke. For the features and expansion options it has it should be half the size. the front looks like a barren grey desert, the speaker looks ridiculous, there is no 2nd 5.25 inch bay, no front mounted ports, the clear handles don't look as good as the old ones and it just is more of the same.

Tell me that a new G5 in GLOSSY BLACK wouldn't look bad-ass? Make a case design sort of similar to the El capitan look and put 2 5.25" bays and 1-2 3.5" bays. Want a G5 logo on the side? Make that f*cker glow. Sound good? Oh, and maybe make it a tad taller to show that the G5 is the big boy in the world of PCs. :)

[ 11-29-2001: Message edited by: TigerWoods99 ]</p>

the current trend in all of apple's line is mostly-rectangular (with rounded corners), with mixes of white, silver/titanium and clear. the tibook takes the titanium to the extreme since it needs to use it for heatsink purposes (or so i have been told -- i haven't actually used one to know if a lot of heat dissipates through the case). the imac line is the one holdout, with the indigo standing out from the essentially-monochrome-duo, snow and graphite (i have finally started to like snow -- damn you steve!!!) but i believe they just had a whackload of indigo cases lying around, and needed to unload them ASAP in preparation for the next imac case (whenever that happens). i can't imagine them switching to an all-black scheme -- i would like it, too, but i just don't think it'll happen yet. i think if you see any change to the yosemite/el capitan case, it'll be to a more rectangular styling (though that might start to look a little too much like a small refrigerator).

I firmly believe that the new case will still be El Capitan, but with a new colour scheme.

(I do belive this qualifies as a new case)

The new colours will match the trend we've seen by the last three major products Apple has released: 10.1, iBook, and iPod.

That is *white* with some silver trim.

I think the bulk of the case will be white like the iBook's case (as in, not like "Snow") and that the Apple logos on the sides and front will be:

Aqua Blue

That will be the only blue on it though, with all other trim being silver and/or chrome.

I believe we'll see updated display colour schemes at this time as well.

They'll still be mostly clear, but under the "skin" will be silver on the back and white on the front.

Again, with the Aqua Blue Logo.

I expect we'll see some glowing Apple logos somewhere or other also.

One thing is for damn sure, Jonathan Ives* is absolutely amazing. I think his designs just keep getting better and better.

The current Apple LCDs, Cube, Titanium and QuickSilvers are classic designs IMO. You just never get tired of looking at them, and they always make me 'wow' in admiration.

* Apple's Industrial Design guru

The G5 will sport a new case design.
The inside of the current G4 has been changed since the latest G4 bump, but without any logical reasons or benefit for it.

Isn't Aphelion our self-declared Apple Employee? So even though he wouldn't break his NDA by telling us some stuff, he's probably got the best idea. And Aphelion, what department do you work in?

[quote]Originally posted by BerberCarpet:
<strong>I firmly believe that the new case will still be El Capitan, but with a new colour scheme.

(I do belive this qualifies as a new case)

The new colours will match the trend we've seen by the last three major products Apple has released: 10.1, iBook, and iPod.

That is *white* with some silver trim.

I think the bulk of the case will be white like the iBook's case (as in, not like "Snow") and that the Apple logos on the sides and front will be:

Aqua Blue

That will be the only blue on it though, with all other trim being silver and/or chrome.

I believe we'll see updated display colour schemes at this time as well.

They'll still be mostly clear, but under the "skin" will be silver on the back and white on the front.

Again, with the Aqua Blue Logo.

I expect we'll see some glowing Apple logos somewhere or other also.</strong><hr></blockquote>

That sounds like a pretty cool looking case.

The current case is nice looking, but as others have pointed out it could stand some improvements. It's not like we're asking that much. It doesn't cost that much to make a decent case!

First off, I'd just like to say that I like the current cases. It's definitely better than the, ugh, PC that sits next to it! The side door is nice. It's so easy to get in there. But once you're in there it's not that great.

As others have pointed out, where's the second 5.25" drive bay? I mean, what's the deal? This crappy PC next to my G4 has three, plus a disk drive.. and it's the same size. This would be great if we could get internal firewire drives. I'm not sure if firewire is better or worse than IDE for high intensity situations.. but it's at least good enough for CD-ROM, Zip drive, etc.

I've been fooling around a lot inside of this beast because of a defective hard drive. Two ideas came out of this. First.. get rid of those sharp edges! There's no need for that! I got a hunk taking out of my head and scratches all over my hands.. no need! Second, that stock hard drive is REALLY in there. I stripped the f-ing screw holding in the mount. I don't know what to do about that. And it's next to impossible to put all four screws into a second hard drive.

One more comment: can't somebody make a case with air filters? I can't imagine this being that hard. Now that would be an improvement.

Derek

[ 11-30-2001: Message edited by: dWREK67 ]</p>

I would like this-
http://www.applele.com/powerfulmac4_b.jpg

In case the image doesn't link-<a href=" http://www.applele.com/powerfulmac4_b.html" target="_blank">here</a>

G5 Sphere!!!!
http://www.theapplecollection.com/design/macproto/images/g5sphere.jpg

I can still dream...

Regarding the PowerfulMac R4, I don't think it's wise to place the removable media drive at the top of the case if it's going to be a desktop.

Let's hope that they at least fix the speaker hiss! :mad:

that sphere rules!
I think apple has to break out of the cube mold that theyve built them selves into. Time for something new.

That looks like a modified toaster or something. I wouldn't buy if I had the money. Apple would never let the whole Titanium thing get out of hand. You know, like making everything Titanium would just be lame. Also, slot loading Desktops? Never, how would you upgrade the CD Drives or whatever. It's close to never. Probably in the future, but not now.

I like the G4 case, it's easy to upgrade, and everything fits just right. I think Apple will stick to it. Who knows? I only believe <a href="http://www.macosx.org" target="_blank">www.macosx.org</a> since they were the only ones that knew how the Quiksilver case was going to look like.

Remember, Occams Razor. ;)

[ 12-01-2001: Message edited by: artenman ]</p>

How about an all-black Powermac G5 case with indigo blue logos and such? Backlight the logos ever so slightly, and it would be one bad-ass looking powermac.

[quote]Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg:
<strong>How about an all-black Powermac G5 case with indigo blue logos and such? Backlight the logos ever so slightly, and it would be one bad-ass looking powermac.</strong><hr></blockquote>

That might be cool, I'd have to see it tho.

As for the colors, anyone notice that everything is starting to mimic OS X? Light grey and white. I would expect the iMac and tower to follow suit.

[quote]As for the colors, anyone notice that everything is starting to mimic OS X? Light grey and white. I would expect the iMac and tower to follow suit.<hr></blockquote>
Yeah, Apple is moving away from colors. The iMac is the only one left... hmm.... <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />

I just hope Apple replaces the Zip drive bay with a 5.25" drive bay in their next case release!!! I'd really like to be able to add a secondary CD/DVD drive over a Zip drive.

Well, I just saw on Daily Daemon where OS X 10.2 will not be released until summer 2002. That would mean that the G5 will also be released at the same time. The G5 is a 64 bit processor and OS X 10.1.x will not take advantage of it. Considering the availability of G5 processors (nothing but test betas) and OS X 10.2 not being released in January = forget it tell this summer. Well back to the LCD iMac speculation threads. :D

Do we even know if the G5 will be 64-bit. I've been saying that the G5 will come out, expect 32-bit and at lower clock speeds than suggested, with a few architectural features missing. Main features will be there though.

I've been wanting a big, glossy black case for several years. Hell, I think El Capitan would look awesome in all glossy black with glowing red power buttons and Apple logo. A black PowerMac would be bad ass.

[quote]Originally posted by ac2c:
<strong>March is not summer. The article said summer. I didn't say summer - they did.
<a href="http://daily.daemonnews.org/view_story.php3?story_id=2559" target="_blank">http://daily.daemonnews.org/view_story.php3?story_id=2559</a></strong><hr></blockquote>

I know March is not summer, that's why I rebuttal to your post :)

[quote] Phil Schiller, Apple's VP of worldwide marketing, has gone on the record to suggest March as the date when new Macs ship with OS X as default.
<hr></blockquote>

Black would be awfull. It would be like a rich person buying a Camaro . . .cause they'r "sooo BAAD lookin"

Black does not look "cool" it looks silly...it looks like its trying to look cool. its declasse(pr: DAy class-sAy) :D

I think that they should go with a snow like sheen under clear (kinda like the G3 and the ibook) with the metal showing in places... but have the handles uniform with the body.

Subtley change the El Capitan: squarer with the handles flush with the top and hanging over the front...

They should make sure to keep dust in mind . . .it needs to be able to clean easily...with a wipe

They will go white way before they go black. Look at the rescent items pBook-titanium, G4-graphite-metal(titanium-like light grey), iBook-white and metal-like light grey, iPod-white and real metal. Anyone seeing a pattern?

White and/or real metal or light grey will be the next logical step.

I think the current QS case slightly re-tooled for another drive bay, with stainless steel highlights (like the rear of the iPod) would be cool.
Maybe a stainless steel Apple logo and handles? Drive bays?

That'd be bling blingin'! :D

I think the current case white white sides and logo like the iPod/IBook and light grey like the current case but with metal handles not the plastic. It seems apple is getting away from the clear plastic with respect to their monitors.

If I get some time I might try a quick mock up.

[quote]Originally posted by KidRed:
<strong>ok, reeeeaaalllyy rough and I emphasize rough 20 min PS job, but here's my idea but lacking handles as I didn't have time to put them in yet.

http://www.kidredproductions.com/pics/g5.jpg</strong><hr></blockquote>

As long as it had handle and 2 full size drive bays that'd be a good tower.

I think black may be the new pro MARKETING color. If you notice, the new PowerMac and PowerBook boxes and info pamphlets are also black. It's a nice contrast though to the QS case and the PowerBook.

Sorry, but I don't see how a software box color can hint toward the color of future towers-don't see the connection? Was any of Apple's spftware graphite, white, grey , metal in the past?

Have you guys ever really taken a long hard look at the new quicksilver case and innards? Its all messed up...its clear that the case was designed for something else inside, and that they shoved what we have now on the inside. Things like the proc being way, way outta line with the fan. IMO, the case that is on the G4 now is the case that would have been on the G5. I think Moto did Apple a screw job yet again <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> .

[quote]Originally posted by pscates:
<strong>That tower above, without the handles...is it just me or does it pretty much look like the CURRENT G4?!?

I mean, "adding handles when I get a chance" is only going to make it look exactly like what's out right now.

:confused:

And black (glossy, matte, textured, burlap, cream swirl, etc.) on a computer is the ****ing ugliest, lame-ass look that's ever existed.

If Apple does it, they're dicks.

And no...a software box doesn't point to ANYTHING, people, so quit reaching so far.

Some of you make Fox Mulder look sane.

:p </strong><hr></blockquote>

Wow, did you even look at it? The colors are different and their are no loopng edges that meet the handles. I'm not sure how handles would best work wth this case so I didn't invest the time for them yet. I think the shape will be more iPod/iBook like.

I think the pro stuff will have that silver/graphite thing going. And the consumer-level iStuff will have the glossy white look.

In a perfect world, that's how it SHOULD be anyway.

But knowing Apple, just when they've got things unified across the lines and a cool, established look going on with all this silver, white, clear, graphite, etc., they'll introduce these new iMacs with some lame-ass patterns OR a truly God-awful color scheme that NOBODY asked for.

Memo to Apple: Don't get cute, okay? Just give us a fast, affordable, good-looking combo drive-equipped LCD-based iMac that's as near to 1GHz as you can muster and all will be alright...trust me. We'll buy them by the truckloads. I believe I speak for everyone here when I say we don't want you to go and **** it all up with an Aztec burlap pattern or Misty Lilac. So don't even THINK about it, okay? Glossy white or go pound sand.

:p

[quote]Want a G5 logo on the side? Make that f*cker glow<hr></blockquote>

I definitely agree. The single best part about the TiBook case is that the apple logo glows. Now, granted that's lit by the display, but it would be easy to make the logos on the side of a tower case glow.

[quote]That tower above, without the handles...is it just me or does it pretty much look like the CURRENT G4?!?<hr></blockquote>

my thoughts exactly. It's basically the QS case w/out any of the clear plastic.

The iBook and iPod have definitely moved in the same direction, but I would be disappointed if the pm goes the same way. Not since the original bondi iMac and the B&W G3 have the 2 lines resembled one another at all (okay, the first G4 cases had some ties to the graphite iMacs, but whatever) I think for G5 things need to go in a totally new direction. The sphere obviously wouldn't really work, but it's the right idea: something completely different. iMac and B&W G3 were cases that no one had ever even thought of imagining. Apple needs to do it again. And though I think it will be a while yet before we see a G5, I'll be looking for new iMacs at MWSF, but if Apple has there act together at all, they will take us completely by surprise. I've seen a couple LCD all in ones. After imac, the rest of the electronics world deprately tried to imitate it (have you seen those little "Half Pint" microwaves?). Apple has to be the trend setter. If they go where anyone else has gone before, it will be a disappointment and a detriment to them.

[quote]Originally posted by scottiB:
<strong>

Please, no. Because all we'll hear forEVER is "Apple can't put in (more PCI slots, analog audio in, quad G5s, whatever, etc.), but they can put a cute light on the side."

People will NEVER shut up about it.

[ 12-10-2001: Message edited by: scottiB ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

and you care what people say why..?

I don't understand why people here think the G5 case is going to take so long to bring to market. The Quicksilver case was a no-brainer. It still has the basic structure of the El Capitan from January 1999! Every case update since then has been a simple tweak. (I'm talking case, not motherboard) The jump from G3 to G4 was simply new handles and plastic panels. Same with the Quickslivers except the drive bay doors and front panels were changed, along with minor adjustment to the handle design. What does everyone think Apple has been doing all this time? People, these new cases that Apple has been throwing at us are pretty basic, and it should be pretty obvious that Apple is working on something much bigger. The G4 and QS case did not require a whole lotta extra effort to develop.

Apple has had PLENTY of time to develop the new case for both the G5 and the new iMac, and I think they will finally see the light of day at MWSF.

[quote]Originally posted by SledgeHammer:
<strong>

I don't think anybody said that. Of course the case won't take long, but the case is pretty useless if there isn't anything in it. We aren't going to see G5 for a while, but it's got nothing to do with the case. We're just speculating on what it might be and what we'd like to see</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well, that's your opinion anyways. I seem to think a lot of people do think we will see the G5 in Jan or very soon after.

That's your opinion as well. My opinion is that you are wrong. :)

Either way, Apple isn't as methodical as some people think. they often change their minds and do things different. At one point they might have colorful consumer machines and drab pro workstations and sometimes their pro worksations outshine their consumer machines. The next case will either be the Quicksilver or some iPod/iBook looking case. i can't fathom at the details but it WILL be clean, probably compact, and definitely stylish.

http://www.biscuitdesign.co.uk/g5tower.jpg

?

[quote]Originally posted by pscates:
<strong>

Care to make it interesting? Say, five bucks?
:D
</strong><hr></blockquote>

Mmm, five bucks? I don't know if I'm willin to wager money on the G5's pending release. I just don't like reading "it will not happen" kinda dampens my mood :)

How 'bout 5 virtual bucks? Or better yet, I'll raise your 5 virtual dollars to 10!!

As for the above rendering, I kinda like that. The cd is like the PS2, I can deal with that. Where's that from anyway?

Everybody seems to be fooling around with pretty little towers about the size of a dictionary, orbs that take up half of your desk, etc etc.

When we're doing PRO stuff, function comes before form! Always always! This is a mistake Apple is making. Make sure expandibility is ample, heat issues are null, and we have as many drive bays as we'll ever need. :)

And don't stop at two drive bays...I want 4 at least. It's a pro machine for god's sake!

You guys...that picture's not a G5 mini-tower -- it's a side/back view of the new iMac!

Alex

New iMac? Damn then then won't be very sturdy. If that faces you and it's only 2-4 inches deep, and you accidently bump it trying to eject the cd tray, it'll fall over.

I thought it was a mini tower after seeing the new Dell, 2 vertical slots on the front like the one on the pic above.

[quote]Originally posted by Alexander:
<strong>

Maybe it weighs 80 pounds. That would make it sturdy. :)

Besides, what would make a tower that shape any sturdier?

Alex</strong><hr></blockquote>

As a tower it would be sturdy. As a monitor it wouldn't be. People touch their monitors, point, clean, that thing would fall over as it's only 4" deep.

As a tower, it's fine unless you back hand it. But the PS2 is skinny and is pretty sturdy with it's base attachment.