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MWSF 2001 optimism vs. pessimism

Optimism
PMac

1.0 Ghz G5/256MBDDR400/DVD-CD-RW/60GB/GeForce2 MXTV/800MbFW/USB2.0/Full-sized Drive bays = $1599

1.4Ghz G5/256MBDDR400/DVD-RW/80GB/GeForce3/// =
$2399

1.2GHz G5 MP/512 DDR400/DVD-RW/100GB/geforce3/"/"/" = $3299

Pessimism
PMac

867 Mhz G4/128MB133/DVD-CD-RW/60GB/GeForce2MX/400FW/USB/QS case = $1699

1GHz G4/128MB133/DVD-RW/80GB/Geforce2MXTV/"/"/" = $2499

933MHz G4 MP/256MB133/DVD-RW/100GB/Geforce3/"/"/" = $3499

Optimism
iMac

600 MHz G4*/128MB133/DVD-CD-RW/40GB/Geforce2MX/800FW/USB2.0/15"LCD = $999

733 MHz G4*/128MB133/DVD-CD-RW/60GB/"/"/"/" = $1299

867MHz G4*/256MB133/DVD-RW/80GB/"/"/"/" = $1499

*=no L3 cache

Pessimism
iMac

600 MHz G3/128MB100/CD-RW/40GB/16Rage128/400FW/USB/15"CRT = $999

700 MHz G3/128MB100/DVD-CD-RW/60GB/16Rage128/400FW/USB/15"CRT = $1299

800 MHz G3/256MB100/DVD-CD-RW/80GB/16Rage128/400FW/USB/15"CRT = $1499

Optimism
iBooks&TiBooks
slight speed bump or price drop

pessimism
iBooks&TiBooks
not mentioned at all

Optimism
iPod
$299

Pessimism
iPod
Steve Jobs: "Isn't it great?"

Optimism
Displays
15"=$399
17"=$799
22"=$1999

Pessimism
Displays
SJ: "Aren't they great?"

Optimism
SW

Apple releases iPics and iMusic. SJ releases OSX 10.2, which allows theming. Apple announces that 98% of mac applications have been carbonized.

Pessimism
SW

Apple announces that there are now "lots" of carbonized apps...several of which are actually commercial products. :rolleyes:
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# 1 Re: MWSF 2001 optimism vs. pessimism
For your PMac pessimist view, I think even if Apple comes out with G4s they will have a faster system bus and use DDR. So maybe that a positive pessimist view? :)
KidRed at 2007-11-17 10:23:17 >
# 2 Re: MWSF 2001 optimism vs. pessimism
I doubt that Apple will add USB 2.0 until it is heavily adopted by the rest of the industry. FW is already there for fast connections. USB 1.0 works OK for printers, cameras, keyboards and such. Finally, there are almost no products that use USB 2.0. Even if you had it you couldn't use it. There is no need for Apple to be on the leading edge of this one.
neutrino23 at 2007-11-17 10:24:17 >
# 3 Re: MWSF 2001 optimism vs. pessimism
man, I'd buy that "optimistic" 1.4Ghz G5 for $2399 in a heartbeat if that were released...

:eek:
Blizaine at 2007-11-17 10:25:17 >
# 4 Re: MWSF 2001 optimism vs. pessimism
Didn't MWSF 2001 happen almost a year ago?

:D
JasonPP at 2007-11-17 10:26:11 >
# 5 Re: MWSF 2001 optimism vs. pessimism
Those pessimistic ones are exactly what I expect to see, except with 256 RAM in the middle models.
tl at 2007-11-17 10:27:16 >
# 6 Re: MWSF 2001 optimism vs. pessimism
I really think Apple will go with USB2.0 instead of 1.1 (or whatever it's at).

If 2 is no more expensive than 1 to implement why not? It's fully backward compatible with 1 so if there is no big price difference it would be foolish not to.
Slacker at 2007-11-17 10:28:15 >
# 7 Re: MWSF 2001 optimism vs. pessimism
pessimistic all the way...

Im thinking MAYBE we will see DDR ram to keep people quiet for a while longer. But besides that, nothing. Maybe a slightly faster dual setup (dual 933s)

We will also have 500Mhz G4s again for another year... because Steve feels like.

I just hope a new iBook doesn't come out in January... caus I'm about to buy meself one.
ZO at 2007-11-17 10:29:19 >
# 8 Re: MWSF 2001 optimism vs. pessimism
[quote] Apple announces that 98% of mac applications have been carbonized.
<hr></blockquote>

2% = Photoshop, Quark Xpress, Dreamweaver...

;)
Caler at 2007-11-17 10:30:23 >
# 9 Re: MWSF 2001 optimism vs. pessimism
I'd rather be a pessimist ("realist") and be pleasantly suprised if Apple exceeds my expectations, rather than be an optimist and be sorely disappointed when Apple falls short of my unreasonably high expectations.

I say 1Ghz or higher G4 PowerMacs and a 1Ghz G3 iMac. It will be the "Ghz Expo". :)
NeoMac at 2007-11-17 10:31:20 >
# 10 Re: MWSF 2001 optimism vs. pessimism
[quote]Originally posted by Slacker:
<strong>I really think Apple will go with USB2.0 instead of 1.1 (or whatever it's at).

If 2 is no more expensive than 1 to implement why not? It's fully backward compatible with 1 so if there is no big price difference it would be foolish not to.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yeah, that's a good point.
EmAn at 2007-11-17 10:32:22 >
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