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Apple should take a lead on security

Apple should seemlessly integrate GnuPG into the Finder and mail.app with automatic key generation and handling. That would be a great feature. Give it a spiffy name like "iSecure" or "Confidential" and advertise the heck out of how every file you make and every email you send is secured.

I think that would be a real step forward for Mac OS X on corporate environments. Especially in medical and legal environments which are ripe for lawsuits from the amount of unsecured email flying around.

TKN
[516 byte] By [TKN] at [2007-11-15 9:12:24]
# 1 Re: Apple should take a lead on security
I can see a few objections to that, primarily the potential speed hit if every single document is being encrypted, and second, the implication that everyone you're going to send anything to needs to have similar software running if they're to open any documents.

Sure, put it in there, but turn it off by default. Given that 90% of users have a hard time picking a password which isn't ridiculously easy to guess (on one board I moderate at least half the users have the name of the board as their password...), expecting them to even begin to understand how to use a cryptographic system properly might be a bit of a long shot...

Now I think about it, might the security agencies have something to say about releasing a whole OS with strong encryption built in? I suppose it might drive Mac OS market share up amongst undesirable elements. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
Overhope at 2007-11-17 13:12:51 >
# 2 Re: Apple should take a lead on security
GnuPG would be good to have built in, especially if they included the RSA support.

Even better though if they perhaps had a few standard things like auto password expiry etc.
That would be make it easier to intergrate into corporate nets.

Dobby.

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dobby at 2007-11-17 13:13:50 >
# 3 Re: Apple should take a lead on security
Auto password expiry is included in MacOS X Server, 10.2.x.
Kickaha at 2007-11-17 13:14:49 >
# 4 Re: Apple should take a lead on security
Sure it would be nice, but think about all the problems they would have with the NSA getting in their face about it. I don't know if it's still true, but it used to be illegal to download secure browsers and such if you weren't in the US. It would be a nightmare to navigate, especially during these hyper-paranoid times.
torifile at 2007-11-17 13:15:54 >
# 5 Re: Apple should take a lead on security
you can install it onto your system anyway...

However, if you start sending a lot of encrypted e-mail messages, you'll start getting funny phone calls and e-mails from people "recommending that you don't use encrypted e-mail"
rogue27 at 2007-11-17 13:16:53 >
# 6 Re: Apple should take a lead on security
[quote]Originally posted by torifile:
<strong>I don't know if it's still true, but it used to be illegal to download secure browsers and such if you weren't in the US.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Back when it was illegal, people didn't care. That's because you used NOT to get thrown in jail for sharing software.

:( Barto
Barto at 2007-11-17 13:17:50 >
# 7 Re: Apple should take a lead on security
[quote]Originally posted by Barto:
<strong>

Back when it was illegal, people didn't care. That's because you used NOT to get thrown in jail for sharing software.

:( Barto</strong><hr></blockquote>

It was never illegal to download the software with the "high level encryption", browsers,etc... I was a violation of US export controls for a person/company to export the encryption software.

The US could do nothing a person in Russia who downloaded it, but could go after the US company/citizen who allowed then to download it, there by exporting it to Russia.

The export restrictions have eased up a lot but there are still several in place, but 128bit crypto is "good enough" and if you really are in a position where your info is so important that its not enough, then you already have much bigger things to worry about.
biaachmonkie at 2007-11-17 13:18:54 >
# 8 Re: Apple should take a lead on security
[quote]Originally posted by TKN:
<strong> "iSecure" </strong><hr></blockquote>

Please God no, enough of the 'I's.

Great idea though, I totally agree with you.
blue2kdave at 2007-11-17 13:19:58 >
# 9 Re: Apple should take a lead on security
So you use iPGP or another non-export restricted algorithm. As far as processing the tasks, ninety-nine percent of emails and documents are really pretty short and it could be set to do it in the background after saving.
TKN at 2007-11-17 13:20:56 >
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