10.2.4 keeps forgetting Date/Time

You guys running clean systems? Any mods or haxies? No problems here on 3 computers.

[quote]Originally posted by Leonis:
<strong>My system is very "clean"

I remember back to the 10.1 time all dual-processor PMs have the same date reset problem until 10.15 released.

Seems like history is repeating itself</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well my dual processor mac remembers the date fine. It does forget my keyboard layout though.

I've restarted twice and haven't had this problem on my dual 500. I did, though, have the problem with losing the time back in 10.1 very frequently.

Of course, I don't reboot all that often. Just when doing hardware stuff or system updates like this.

Dang, I was just messing around booting into an OS 9 backup (euch!) and didn't think to look at what time it said. On X I have the "Use Network Time Server" box ticked, so I wouldn't notice if 10.2.4 was having problems...

YOu don't have to wait for an hour.

Just shut it down for 10 sec and turn it on again...da da!

I personally don't like the network time sync thing because there were a few times my internet connection went down and the boot process stalled for over 5 minute (detecting the network)when I turn on that function

But now it seems I have no choice but to turn that on until the fix arrives :mad:

[ 02-15-2003: Message edited by: Leonis ]</p>

Just checked 3 different dualies I have access to, all upgraded to 10.2.4, no date/time amnesia (or other problems for that matter) after either reboots or shut downs.

Apple MacOS X discussion forum lists some problems after upgrading, but couldn't find anything related to Date/Time.

Doesn't seem to be a widespread issue.

Well sorry to hear about this but My G4 450 keeps time just the same as before. It doesn't matter if I boot into 9 or turn off the network time server ( which I've had mine on all the time and had zero problems even when the net goes down ). As a matter of fact I've yet to notice much difference with 10.2.4 at all. And I think something would have shown up by now.

Well there's one thing the DNS bug that I talked about on another thread hasn't reared it's ugly head so maybe that's fixed.

I'm sure you've already tried this but I'd try zapping your P-RAM and see if that has any effect.

[ 02-15-2003: Message edited by: jimmac ]</p>

Like this

<a href="http://discussions.info.apple.com/WebX?50@246.Gqr3aDokhK0.1@.3bbf50f2" target="_blank">http://discussions.info.apple.com/WebX?50@246.Gqr3aDokhK0.1@.3bbf50f2</a>

I think it's on only so far dual 867mhz dual MDD people...which i am one of

Frank_t

I have a dual 1Ghz quicksilver and I have this problem. Even after booting from a clean install on the new HD I've just receive. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[oyvey]" /> Very frustrating. The keyboard menu is also reset back to it default after restart, even if pref are ok :rolleyes:

Well it isn't the bat if you look here

<a href="http://discussions.info.apple.com/WebX?14@247.qf86akLrhIr.0@.3bbf50f2/4" target="_blank">http://discussions.info.apple.com/WebX?14@247.qf86akLrhIr.0@.3bbf50f2/4</a>

you will see that these same people went in os 9 shut down and didn't lose the time...so this is a 10.2.4 bug...and a pain in the ASS one too...

I hope we don't have to wait for 10.2.5 for this to be fixed :mad:

Frank_t

[quote]Originally posted by Bill M:
<strong>Problem is, if this is a 10.2.4 bug, why not all duals are affected? I think this has to be a combination of factors and not just the upgrade alone. Now, I agree the update is provoking this mess, but perhaps the units experiencing this problem had some lurking problems (bad installs, permissions, etc...) before the upgrade.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hum.. I have this problem even on a new install on a new drive. I ran Disk Utility, Disk warrior, etc.

I think apple isn't going to fix this as not everyone has this bug...you would think it would be a easy quick fix..dl this small file to fix this small bug? but no...i bet that i and many others have to wait for 10.2.5 to fix such a small bug. :(

Frank_t

Looks like more and more people are seening this bug pop its head up...not only MDD duals... <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[oyvey]" />

<a href="http://discussions.info.apple.com/WebX?50@52.uzAPa01khMc.4@.3bbf5aaf" target="_blank">http://discussions.info.apple.com/WebX?50@52.uzAPa01khMc.4@.3bbf5aaf</a>

Frank_t

shetline: thanks for the UNIX heads up. splendid trivia I'd never heard of .

did some googling (to google is now presumably a verb) and found a wired article from 2001 (about the billionth second ticking on the unix clock; wish I could work out how to link correctly)

Quote--
The Unix epoch is midnight on January 1, 1970. It's important to remember that this isn't Unix's "birthday" -- rough versions of the operating system were around in the 1960s. Instead, the date was programmed into the system sometime in the early 70s only because it was convenient to do so, according to Dennis Ritchie, one the engineers who worked on Unix at Bell Labs at its inception.

"At the time we didn't have tapes and we had a couple of file-systems running and we kept changing the origin of time," he said. "So finally we said, 'Let's pick one thing that's not going to overflow for a while.' 1970 seemed to be as good as any. "
end---

kind of logical thinking I like.

I seem to recall that when members of my ancient mac family (classic etc) had dead batteries, date/time reverted back to 1954. thought it might be Steve Jobs's birthday, but, thanks to google again, that's February 24,1955.

/end trivializing
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Popped up here... 400MHz Pismo.

Doesn't look like its limited to Dualies at all, eh?

Thank god I reboot about once a month. :D

Er, even if they fixed it the day that 10.2.4 came out, it takes about a week to regression test the whole OS. :/

I had the same problem 3 days before upgrading to 10.2.4 on a 2002 QuickSilver (about a year old) and it was genuinely the battery. Since replacing it I haven't had any problems. I wonder if in a few cases, it is a genuinely flat battery. They don't seem to last the 4 to 5 years as expected.

Add my voice here. I just discovered the Time and Date bug yesterday, after a reboot. The Keyboard menu is resseting too, even when the pane prefs is okay.

I installed 10.2.4 about 2 weeks ago (or so) on my dual 867 MHz. Yesterday, I shut down the computer for a while and rebooted. The bug appeared immediately.

:confused: :mad:

Wow. It hadnt done this before but I booted up my G4 to the surprised of it being 1969 December something Wednesday at 7 PM. Maybe I didnt have a time/date problem before because I actually shut down my computer last night, and normally I will never shut down, I keep the computer running for days at a time. I tried restarting a few times to see if it solved the problem but didnt so I just did it manually. I just went to macnn.com and noted the bug and did the setting changes. We will see if this works.