CD quality car input for free?
I'm wondering if anyone has tried sacrificing their cars' tape decks for an auxilliary input. I'm thinking it should be possible to tap into a couple of wires inside the tape deck to create a line in for an iPod or any other portable device. This should theoretically yield much cleaner sound than any cassette adapter or FM transmitter could and would probably be nearly free to do, or at least much cheaper than buying one of those boxes that fake the radio into thinking your ipod is a CD changer. That is of course, if you don't fry your radio while trying.
Has anybody tried this? Does anybody know where I can find some good cheap information on the guts of car stereos and tape decks? I'd like as much information as possible before tearing into my car's system. At the moment, I am trying to get my hands on some old tape decks that I could experiment on first and I will post any positive results here. In case anyone knows something specific about it, I drive a 2000 Maxima with the Premium (much to my regret) Bose system.
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Randyspawn] at [2007-11-10 2:31:40]

# 1 Re: CD quality car input for free?
You get quite afew decks that actually have a 3.5mm stereo AUX input. One of those would be your best bet, as AFAIK its not going to be easy to couple something onto the tape interface.
TOM
# 2 Re: CD quality car input for free?
Replacing the head unit would be relatively expensive and would yield poor results since I have the Bose system. Aftermarket equipment and OEM Bose systems don't play well together so I would really have to overhaul the whole thing; speakers, suboofer, amps, and head unit, which would cost way too much as of now, especially considering how the next generation or two of alpine systems will finally have a perfected, or at least much improved interface for plugging into the ipod.
I take it nobody has tried this?
# 3 Re: CD quality car input for free?
You'd rather take apart your factory Bose system and start soldering around in there without a wiring diagram than try a new head unit? With the cost of an OEM replacement factored in, I don't think I'd mess with it. If the new head unit doesn't work, at least you can take it back.
bcruze at 2007-11-15 15:57:49 >

# 4 Re: CD quality car input for free?
Yes.
If it works, I get a line level input in a nice-sounding Bose system without spending a dime. If I mess up and break something, I still have plenty of options. It's possible to ebay an OEM head unit for around $100 and there are always junkyards I could go to for spare parts. Worse comes to worse, I could still just overhaul the whole system with an Alpine and then update the head unit whenever they fix their half-assed iPod implementation. Seeing as the cost of such an overhaul would be the same as if I just decided to do it in the first place, I've really got nothing to lose except for time. Replacing just the head unit is simply not an option option as the Bose speakers tend to sound like crap without the bose head unit's built in EQ. Installing a new head unit alone into the Bose system would also require more soldering than my idea possibly could because of the special wiring harnesses Bose uses. Going back to the factory system would be a huge pain in the butt.
Thanks for the suggestion though. As for wiring diagrams: that's why I'm posting here. If someone could get their hands on one, this whole thing becomes much simpler.
# 5 Re: CD quality car input for free?
You can get an Aiwa CD player with a front Aux jack for around $100.
Galley at 2007-11-15 15:59:52 >

# 6 Re: CD quality car input for free?
But that would sound like ### unless I replace the factory bose amps, speakers, and sub as well. If it's gonna sound crappy, then I'd rather just use an iTrip or tape adapter. I also don't see any point in buying a head now when the next generation should be far more iPod compatible.
# 7 Re: CD quality car input for free?
wow...no one seems to listen around here....
I have heard of someone trying that on a forum (not this one) a long time ago, but I don't think they actually did it, I think they were just trying to get attention.
If you could get a schematic for the radio, you could try, but that in itself is a huge if.
Sometimes you can replace the HU with an aftermaket one that has line-out's for the front, rear, and sub channels, and then solder some connectors onto you're factory harness and get it to work. "Premium" sound systems are just a pain in the ###!
-Drew
DrewT at 2007-11-15 16:01:55 >

# 8 Re: CD quality car input for free?
Originally posted by DrewT
Sometimes you can replace the HU with an aftermaket one that has line-out's for the front, rear, and sub channels, and then solder some connectors onto you're factory harness and get it to work. "Premium" sound systems are just a pain in the ###!
-Drew
Now there's an option. Do you think its possible to emulate the sound processing of the Bose unit on an aftemarket unit? I've been hearing that the Bose units sound good mainly as a result of heavy EQing and crossover frequencies being set perfectly and that I would lose all of that if I upgraded the head unit and just be left with bad speakers.
Its been a no-go on the schematic so far but I haven't looked that hard just yet. I seem to be having some decent luck tinkering with an old tape player that I have. If they look anything alike on the inside, it should be a piece of cake.
# 9 Re: CD quality car input for free?
well, an OEM integration cable that takes generic RCA inputs costs about $80.
Most likley, the EQing is done in the amp. That'd be easier to install, and make it sound better. May wanna check on that.
The reason the bose systems sound so good is because they have amps. The stock systems have those little transistor things they call "amps", but it's not very good.
-Drew
DrewT at 2007-11-15 16:03:55 >
