E3cs have created loads of work for me.
I finally broke down after fighting with my Sony mdr-nc11's and bought E3c's yesterday.
I can't believe how much time I wasted messing around with other headphones. (have about 10 other pair)
The E3c's are so unbelievable, I had no idea what I was missing. I am going to invest in custom ear molds and never take them off. :D
The only thing is that I am going to have to re-rip a couple hundred cd's at higher bitrates. I can hear degredations and distortion in every single song that was ripped VBR. :eek:
Oh yes, one more thing. The Shures COMPLETELY blocked out every ounce of sound on my flight last night. Consider yourself deaf to anything but the music. I'm in love!
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Texipod] at [2007-11-10 2:33:48]
# 1 Re: E3cs have created loads of work for me.
As soon as i get the dosh, i'm getting some shure e3c's! What bitrate are you using that causes the distortions? 128? 192? All of my music is at 128 and its prob not gonna be high enough.
Mina.
Mina at 2007-11-15 15:25:21 >
# 2 Re: E3cs have created loads of work for me.
I actually think the E3c's are very good at covering up distortion and artifacts that are caused by compression. Certainly compared to Etys or unamped Grados out of the iPod. I've been converting my collection to 320 AAC, but with the E3c's out of the iPod, I honestly can't tell the difference between that and LAME VBR 99% of the time.
Are you using any EQ settings on the iPod? EQ will definitely cause distortion, but it's not the file's fault. Also, make sure you're not listening to them too loud. The E3c's, unfortunately, sound the best when you crank them up... but that's not good for your ears. It also might distort the low end a little.
# 3 Re: E3cs have created loads of work for me.
All the songs that I feel need to be re-ripped are from cd's that I ripped 2 years ago when I had an Archos jukebox and was using Musicmatch 192 VBR.
For example, two Cake cd's Comfort Eagle, ripped with MM 6x 192VBR compared to Cake Pressure Chief ripped with iTunes at straight 192. Barely sounds like the same band.
I have ipod EQ off always.
# 4 Re: E3cs have created loads of work for me.
Now listen to the older Cake CD's right off the CD and compare it to Cake's new Pressure Chief CD and you might discover that their new CD sounds better.
# 5 Re: E3cs have created loads of work for me.
I use E2's and I can't hear anything but the music either. All my stuff is 192 AAC, but it would be nice if it was a little higher. I don't have the patience to re rip everything though.
# 6 Re: E3cs have created loads of work for me.
Hey Texipod, how loud do you listen to your music at? I've got the Shure E2c's and usually have it at around 30%. I'm just scared it will damage my ear drum or something. Is it ok to put my volume up a bit more? Thanks... Sam
Possd at 2007-11-15 15:30:21 >
# 7 Re: E3cs have created loads of work for me.
Originally posted by sonikninja
Now listen to the older Cake CD's right off the CD and compare it to Cake's new Pressure Chief CD and you might discover that their new CD sounds better.
Ok, I've listened to all my Cake cd's back to back on my Phillips cd walkman with my Sennheiser HD477's and HD280Pro's.
I can honestly say that yes, I do hear a small difference in the sound quality of the cd's but not nearly as dramatic as the difference in the files ripped VBR vs straight 192.
The re-ripping has begun. ;)
Hey Texipod, how loud do you listen to your music at? I've got the Shure E2c's and usually have it at around 30%. I'm just scared it will damage my ear drum or something. Is it ok to put my volume up a bit more? Thanks... Sam
I hadn't really thought about damaging my hearing but I usually have the volume at least to 70%. I like loud. I've listened to loud music in headphones since I was a kid (now 36 yrs old) and my hearing is fine. My wife mayy argue that point but I say it's fine. :D
# 8 Re: E3cs have created loads of work for me.
70% is ridiculously loud for the E3c's. No wonder you hear distortion.
# 9 Re: E3cs have created loads of work for me.
i cant listen more than 32% on my e5c or it will blast my ear drums lol
# 10 Re: E3cs have created loads of work for me.
Y'all must have pretty sensitive hearing. Could it be that my wife has been right all along? Nnnnnaaaaaaaaawww. :D
After re-ripping old Cake cd's and listening again with the E3c's, it's much better now.
I can still hear the difference in recordings new vs old but the quality is much improved.
# 11 Re: E3cs have created loads of work for me.
My E3s are the best. I love 'em. I have to keep buying the foam sleeves for 'em though because none of the silicon inserts do it for me. With the foamies, I can pop 'em in and shut out the world.
I use AAC192 with the odd selection at 256. My collection used to be encoded in MPEG192 (CBR) but I found it too distorted (splashy phasing effects and loss of detail). VBR has similar problems. I find AAC192 to be adequate and lets me get my music on my iPod. Still, if I were more selective about what I transported to my player, I'd probably go for a higher bitrate again.
# 12 Re: E3cs have created loads of work for me.
I rip my music at ACC 320kbps and there is the odd 256kbps. As I have said i use Shure E2c's and can't get enough of them! The sound is so clear and accurate. I use the small Silicone sleeve that fits my ear perfectly. Anyhoo......
Possd at 2007-11-15 15:36:33 >
# 13 Re: E3cs have created loads of work for me.
all my music is from 192 to 500something, and to be honest i cant tell the difference.
Anyway back onto the e3c's, there great, you should try the triple flange... once you try them you wont look back.
WiBu at 2007-11-15 15:37:29 >
# 14 Re: E3cs have created loads of work for me.
Originally posted by WiBu
all my music is from 192 to 500something, and to be honest i cant tell the difference.
Anyway back onto the e3c's, there great, you should try the triple flange... once you try them you wont look back.
Eh how do you get it ripped at 500? I don't think it's possible. Unless you meant something else i am sure your wrong.
Possd at 2007-11-15 15:38:32 >
# 15 Re: E3cs have created loads of work for me.
Texi - www.bestmp3guide.com
Let the re-re-ripping begin! Trust me, quality that way is insane.
# 16 Re: E3cs have created loads of work for me.
Does this work for ACC?
Possd at 2007-11-15 15:40:39 >
# 17 Re: E3cs have created loads of work for me.
I just ordered some E3C's from Amazon. They are having a sale right now, new phones for $115 and free shipping.
# 18 Re: E3cs have created loads of work for me.
Sam, you can use EAC to create AAC files if you use the iTunesEncode command line encoder. You can get that here:
http://otto.homedns.org:8888/itunes/iTunesEncode.zip
Honestly, I don't see any real advantage in this. EAC is a good extractor, but unless you're having trouble with iTunes, it's probably not worth it.
# 19 Re: E3cs have created loads of work for me.
I recently posted a mini-review over at head-fi. Click to read. Nothing fancy, just a few thoughts.
http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=91001 ( http://)
