software for transferring songs from iPod
Umm yeah,
would like to know of a good quality program that allows me to take songs from my ipod onto my pc, iTunes only allows one way...
looked in the download section first, wasn't fruitful...
im running xp.
cheers
matt
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evolvedboy] at [2007-11-9 20:26:20]

# 1 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
In the dl section is the iPod Agent and Anapod that will work with Windows XP. It you can't use this then explain why or exactly what it is you want the software to do if your looking for specific features? Plus there is also versiontracker.com.
# 2 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
Yeah, you can use iPod Agent (my app) or you can always do it manually just using Windows Explorer. Just be sure you have enabled viewing of hidden folders and files turned on in Windows Explorer. Then, put your iPod into disk mode and navigate to it from Windows Explorer. Locate the iPod_Control\Music\ folder. Under this folder will be a number of folders named F00, F01, F02, etc. These folders contain the actual music files. You can just copy/paste them from your iPod to your PC.
Shadow at 2007-11-15 17:19:15 >

# 3 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
thanks muchly averyone you have solved my problem :)
Matt
# 4 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
iPod Agent looks really, really cool- but the 24 MB download is an issue!
drac at 2007-11-15 17:21:20 >

# 5 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
24MB download? That's only if you don't have the .NET Framework installed already. iPod Agent is only a 1.7MB download.
Shadow at 2007-11-15 17:22:19 >

# 6 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
Well, why would I have the .NET framework installed?
Your program is the only reason I can think of. Bit of a pain, really.
I mean, it's a beautiful program and all, and I really respect your work, but that is a drawback for me.
drac at 2007-11-15 17:23:18 >

# 7 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
Well, what can I say? If you don't want to install the .NET Framework, that's fine. Don't run .NET applications. However, more and more applications are going to use the .NET Framework as that is the current programming technology from Microsoft.
If you keep up with all the Windows Updates, the .NET Framework is one of the downloads it will recommend. Also, it's going to be included with the soon to be released Service Pack 2 for Windows XP so you'll get it with that anyway.
Shadow at 2007-11-15 17:24:23 >

# 8 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
Ok, if you do not mind to install Java, let's say 13.7MB of download, then you can try MediaChest (1.7MB too). It looks like time of 20k applications gone, so be prepare to replace your old 9600bp modem by something broadband like.:)
MOCKBA at 2007-11-15 17:25:15 >

# 9 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
Hey, man, make all the snarky comments you like, some of us don't have access to affordable broadband. :|
I'm not dissing the man's program, I said it was pretty and everything, I just don't want to have to walk around with 20 MB of runtimes to install on any machine that I want to use the program on. Nor do I want to have to install runtimes on my friends' machines in order to be able to play my music on them if I'm visiting.
If you guys can't recognise that that's a disadvantage for some people then you're blind. If it isn't a disadvantage for you, good for you; everyone's situation isn't like yours.
One day it will be impossible to avoid the .NET framework; hopefully by that time the runtime will have a wider install base, perhaps due to its inclusion in Longhorn, and so the disadvantages of its use today will be a nonissue. Today I can tell you that no machine I currently use (apart from my main workstation) has it installed.
Shadow: again I say, kudos to you, but the use of those forward-thinking runtimes is a disadvantage for some users under current circumstances. I don't see how that comment is a problem. I'm not asking you to change your program, it clearly makes many other users happy; but I *am* very glad that there are alternatives available (Sharepod, Arpod) which have different disadvantages and which are more suited for my personal use.
drac at 2007-11-15 17:26:23 >

# 10 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
Hey, man, you are getting the outstanding program for free. Can you imagine how much valuable time were spent to create it? If you do not like it, just do not use. Use something else you consider better or can afford.
MOCKBA at 2007-11-15 17:27:19 >

# 11 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
But that's what I'm doing, man, what's your problem?
My comment was, "iPod Agent looks really, really cool- but the 24 MB download is an issue!"
Why are you acting like I insulted somebody?
drac at 2007-11-15 17:28:18 >

# 12 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
My problem? Man you didn't understand. It's your problem. Dude, how did you know that iPod Agent is cool, but requires 24MB download? Did you download it? So, what's your problem, dude? You can't share it with friends? Are you kidding? Just copy it on iPod hard drive and things done. So, your comment is pointless.
MOCKBA at 2007-11-15 17:29:27 >

# 13 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
why is everyone yelling at drac.
he is not lucky enough to have broadband. I was in the same boat as him until about a month ago. 24MB is a nights worth of downloading, just to use a little 1.7MB program. He wasn't insulting, flaming or doing anything other than being nice about how good the program is, albeit the only issue is the 24MB download for the framework it requires, which, on a dial-up connection, is a #### load to download.
leave him alone. he did nothing wrong.
# 14 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
AndrewHarrison: Thanks, man! It's good to see that some people see my point, and recognise that I wasn't trying to be down on anyone.
Mockba: Dude, don't be so harsh if you don't get my point. It's fine that the software meets your needs so precisely, but there's no need to get your feathers ruffled if the same doesn't hold true for other people.
If you want me to explain my point further, just ask. Otherwise, I'll just move on, providing my polite feedback to those who are able to receive it politely.
Cheers!
drac at 2007-11-15 17:31:29 >

# 15 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
Dude, are you talking about being polite? Common man, you are rude, as hell. What's Shadow can do about .Net stuff? Does he need completely rewrite his program to get you satisfied? Can you imagine how many hours, efforts he was needed to create this nice program? Be respectful to hard work of another people who give you these results for free. Please understand that to get broadband you have to do hard work, please be respectful to hard work another people. Otherwise you will always have the problems of getting money, believe my friend.
MOCKBA at 2007-11-15 17:32:22 >

# 16 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
I'm a professional in my thirties. The problem with broadband is a local/geographic one- I live and work in the Caribbean. Cable broadband is not available here, and ADSL- traditionally a commercial service- is exorbitant. It would be good if we all could refrain from making assumptions about each other's personal lives.
On topic: those who wish an attractive, full-featured app and don't mind large runtime downloads will likely be best served by Shadow's app.
Those who don't necessarily need all the features, and prefer smaller downloads without the runtimes, should also consider SharePod (http://www25.brinkster.com/carmagt/SharePod/) or ArPod (http://ipodlounge.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29272&perpage=15&pagenumber=1).
Also worth a look (and in rapid development) is MyPodPlayer (http://www.ipodsoft.com/mypodplayer.aspx), which also does not need runtimes when run on Win2k/Xp.
I have written to Shadow to express my hopes that he has not taken offense to my posts. Such offense would be unfortunate, given that I have expressed admiration for his app from the very beginning. All of the above apps are good ones, but they have different advantages and disadvantages for different users. Pointing out a disadvantage of a particular app should not be considered rudeness or disrespect.
Thanks again to those who expressed understanding of my position.
Cheers!
drac at 2007-11-15 17:33:26 >

# 17 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
I have received drac's PM and as I told him already, don't worry people. I didn't take offense to what he was saying. I just wanted to make it clear that iPod Agent wasn't 20+ MB itself.
I knew some people wouldn't want to use iPod Agent because it is written in .NET and requiers the .NET Framework. I've been doing .NET development ever since it first came out (2 years now I think) and I really love it. I started writing iPod Agent just for myself to see if I could figure out how to read the iTunes database off the iPod. I got that working so I started adding more features. I eventually decided others may like it so I made it available on the web. I had no idea it would get as big of a response as it has.
So, if someone doesn't want to download and install the .NET Framework, I don't mind. They can use a number of other great programs available and I thank drac for reviewing some of them for people.
Shadow at 2007-11-15 17:34:34 >

# 18 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
Thanks.
:)
drac at 2007-11-15 17:35:28 >

# 19 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
My advice to all of us who has slow Internet connection. Use download managers. Internet connection is quite slow in India. I can get only ~1.2kbs, so downloading few dozen mb file can take an hour or more. If file is big, then I can download it overnight. Sometimes connection can be broken in the middle, or even when file is almost here, so I need to restart. On my luck I found that download managers save the situation, since can resume and do some other tricky stuff. Good thing that I need download .Net only once. So, upgrading to next version of iPod Agent takes only 10-15 minutes, that's I consider acceptable.
MOCKBA at 2007-11-15 17:36:26 >

# 20 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
Good suggestion. I used Getright to download the runtime for use on my machine. It still took an hour even with multiple threads going.
As Shadow clearly realises, slow bandwidth remains only one of the reasons that this runtime might constitute a disadvantage for some users.
Mockba, iPodAgent clearly meets your needs pretty well, and that's good for you! You sound as though you're likely more familiar with the app than I am. What are its strong points in your view? What are its weaknesses?
drac at 2007-11-15 17:37:29 >

# 21 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
Honestly I do not use iPod for anything else except listening music, so from this point this software has no value for me. I also never copied song back from iPod, I have no idea why people want that. However, I can say what's feature I'd like to see in iPod Agent or other similar software:
1. speaking news (yes, I drive when I commute, so I can't read but I can listen, so instead of text file, iPod Agent should create compressed audio news files).
2. Phone book, I have my phone book in my phone, so I do not need another one, however speaking phone book can be helpful too. My sight isn't well, and sometimes people asking me for my phone or phone of another person, in this case I'd like just play the phone from my iPod. Another related feature is recording dial tones for phone book, when I can deal it just playing.
3. Speaking address book can be cool too.
4. Speaking calendar is awesome.
5. Speaking e-mail can be helpful. However, in most cases I'd prefer reply to e-mail just after listening it, unfortunately it isn't possible.
I think that iPod Agent is perfect tool for students when they need to commute to school on buses, or trains, and have plenty time to listen music, read news, read funny e-mail stories, see movie listings, weather and horoscope forecasts, girl friends phones and addresses. And of course classes schedules in calendar.
MOCKBA at 2007-11-15 17:38:35 >

# 22 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
Interesting.
iPod Agent is of limited use for me in some of those functional areas due to its focus on Outlook/Outlook Express, which I have never used.
I also have no interest in horoscopes and some of the other aspects of recreational functionality.
While I do like having e-texts on the iBook to read on occasion, I find that iPodLibrary works better for me.
I agree that iPodAgent is likely perfect for some commuters and so on- but not necessarily for those who don't use Outlook! :D
But you didn't speak about your own priorities. What makes iPod Agent the right app for *you*?
drac at 2007-11-15 17:39:34 >

# 23 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
Need help from the experts on this board
What software should i use for transferring from ipod to PC. I am using windows xp. Now i've readd that many software does this but trouble is everyone is talking ipod to their own PC.
I would like to know how to transfer songs from MY ipod to a friends PC who already have an exisiting Itune.
My main worry is that by syncing my ipod on his pc..it might ruin my playlist/songs and mess up his at the same time.
Which programs should i use? I have to turn off the auto-sync function right?
Thanks so much
kiki at 2007-11-15 17:40:40 >

# 24 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
Use iPod Agent, and do not start iTunes. If you have iTunes in autostart at iPod connection, then disable this feature. You can also to switch to manual sync.
MOCKBA at 2007-11-15 17:41:40 >

# 25 Re: software for transferring songs from iPod
Thanks for the advice..here's another scenerio i need help figuring out
What if i want to rip CDs and add the tunes into my ipod using my friends pc (taking into account he has an ipod himself, so his pc have the Itune program with his own playlist)?
Do i have to Transfer all my songs/playlist (using ipod Agent) to his PC...add the newly ripped tunes and then transfer everything back again?
Sorry if it seems confusing...i'm new to the ipod
Thanks for all your help
kiki at 2007-11-15 17:42:34 >
