hymn project replaces Playfair

hmmm, i question the legality of this, you sighn up for the store, you agree not to circumvent the DRM in any way. I feel it wont be long until apple stops it, not that they care anyway...

Just a few points about "legality".

First, legality is whatever the laws of a particular country say is legal.

Second, just because a license (which is a contract) says something does not make those terms enforceable or binding. You cannot contract away many rights.

Removing the DRMS from a protected file to enable the "fair use" of the contents of that file may (or may not) be within your rights. If the courts rule that it is within your right (as many courts have in the past regarding "fair use") then, Apple's license notwithstanding, removal of the DRMS is completely legal.

The fact is, the US Supreme Court has not ruled on whether removal of DRMS for the specific purpose of accessing legitimately purchased content outside the authorized tools is legal. The DMCA is the only law which supports the contention that it might be illegal, and the US Supreme Court has not issued a decision on this point. Some US courts have said that circumventing copy protection for the sole purpose of accessing legimately purchased (substitute "licensed" if you wish) content is completely legal.

Only the courts will decide. The people who will NOT decide are individuals posting on forums.

Finally, this tool is created and offered outside the USA, therefore US courts have no jurisdiction over it.

I need help with the command prompt too... can anyone help with a working prompt that GraceMolloy and I can work from?

(what is supposed to go where it says [[file2 ... fileN]] in all of the examples, and what format are the file name and location supposed to be in? just the file name or the whole location including C:\ at the start...)

OMFG! Ok that rocks!

Thank You!

I wasn't able to get it to create mp3s like it said it could but at least the m4a's a re convertable. That's good

Does anyone know how to make this work for filenames with spaces? I feel like I'm missing something obvious.

I just tried this out the other night and de-protected about half of my M4P stuff. Personally, I don't care if Apple has an issue with it. I mean, when you burn the tracks to CD and re-rip them in M4A format, aren't you violating the license agreement by circumventing the DRM, anyway? So their own terms of service agreement is a joke in an of itself, AFAIC...

I don't share what I buy, that's theft. And Hymn leaves my iTMS ID in the file, so Apple would know if I was pirating fairly quicly. I started using HYMN because if my computer OS needs to be re-installed I can't re-use the M4Ps when I re-install iTunes (or at least that's what I've read).

DRM is all an illusion anyway. The first DRM system was Sony's SCMS - basically when you record from CD to Minidisc you can't record from one MD to another. That is, UNLESS you pay extra for the "pro-sumer" MD systems - in which case SCMS is stripped and/or ignored.

This all boils down to dollar signs and the RIAA. And they're facing a losing battle. They use the same arguments that the pro-gun-control lobbyists use. That if they don't put controls on things - everyone will be out there breaking the law. And the DMCA is the software equivalent to Gun Control. It is a way to legally go after someone for making a tool which *could* be used illegally. What's next, sue Louisville when someone uses a baseball bat to smack another guy around? Sue Ford when someone hits someone else with a car? Sue Remington when someone shoots someone else with a gun (this last one is getting closer to reality - sadly)?

Guys - it's called personal responsibility. The laws that were in place prior to DMCA worked - the DMCA and the RIAA now have combined to create a legal way to operate under what would normally prosecuted under RICO.

Personally I'm for voting out the entire lot of polititians who represent us in Congress and the House (both left and right wing). Jesse Ventura for pres in 2008, baby!

Originally posted by dangerousd
Apologies, this has nothing to do with iPods.

In the whole of the UK, in the year up to 31st of March 2003, there were 81 homicides involving firearms, compared with 97 the year before.

This is in a nation of 56 million or so people, all crammed in to an island the size of Texas. Not having guns publicly available, makes an extremely significant difference.

I agree with the idea that RIAA has bought themselves some "great legislation" out of a money driven democracy. And also that they suck and all.

But gun control? That's not the same thing at all. Your right to defend yourself is also "the right for millions and millions of really stupid people to have a life and death choice over anyone they meet".

Our nation isn't by any means "better or worse", but on this point our biggest social problem is drink and getting in to drunken brawls at pub closing time.

In some states you can't smoke in public, right? But you can have a gun? Utter madness.

I don't profess to be particularly clued up on your country, but to be honest, I was under the impression that the NRA were very much comparable to other self serving, "government influencing" groups, such as RIAA, energy?
This is kind of going off topic, but...Over here in the US, the right to bear arms is written in the US constitution and as many times as people have tried, no one has been able to get an amendment passed congress. That's all there is to it, not much more we can do :rolleyes:

Is there a program like this for protected wma's downloaded through the other music stores (Rhapsody and Napster)?