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What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?

Hi there,

After apple relased the COM object for iTUNES, ive started developing a addon software for iTUNES, mainly to do things easier for myself. Using the COM object for iTUNES, means that we can create safe software/addons that is 100% compatible with itunes, and changes you do in itunes/ my software is changed instantly in the other application.

However, what I miss from iTUNES, that I will include in my soft is "mass-replace-rename". I will also add so when I add songs it auto like volumeboost 70% (because I use that always)

If I decide to "release" this public, what other features would you like to have that you dont think iTUNES is doing good enough today?

One other thing im gonna add, is the same way ephpod behave when changing title, trackname, songname, artist , genre etc etc. With otherwords, a lot more easy than iTUNES.

Feedback is appreciated

Thanks
[929 byte] By [EsspeN] at [2007-11-9 20:19:40]
# 1 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
How about a feature to strip any dead air off the beginning and end of encoded MP3's?

S
Alias at 2007-11-15 16:42:55 >
# 2 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
Something that really bugs me is CDs that have "bonus tracks" tacked on the end of the last track, so you have a 3 minute song, 10 minutes or so of silence (why do they have to do this?) and another "secret" song all in one track. Currently I would have to rip the one track as WAV, edit it with an audio tool & import the resulting WAVs into iTunes. If iTunes could automatically rip these sort of tracks as 2 separate tracks & throw away the silence bit in the middle that would be very cool.
Comrade Chimp at 2007-11-15 16:43:55 >
# 3 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
Originally posted by Comrade Chimp
Something that really bugs me is CDs that have "bonus tracks" tacked on the end of the last track, so you have a 3 minute song, 10 minutes or so of silence (why do they have to do this?) and another "secret" song all in one track. Currently I would have to rip the one track as WAV, edit it with an audio tool & import the resulting WAVs into iTunes. If iTunes could automatically rip these sort of tracks as 2 separate tracks & throw away the silence bit in the middle that would be very cool.

Theres an "easy" way to do this in iTunes. Load your CD and start iTunes, then in the CD window right click the song you want to encode and click Get Info. Click the option tab and set where abouts in the song you want to stop/start encoding.
Suasexed at 2007-11-15 16:44:57 >
# 4 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
Originally posted by Suasexed
Theres an "easy" way to do this in iTunes. Load your CD and start iTunes, then in the CD window right click the song you want to encode and click Get Info. Click the option tab and set where abouts in the song you want to stop/start encoding. Ah, cool! You just have to import the track twice with different start & stop times. Still wish they wouldn't do this though. Wish that importing CDs on iTunes worked for me as well. Oh well. :(
Comrade Chimp at 2007-11-15 16:45:51 >
# 5 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
Some suggestions:

1. Find duplicate songs (based on similar song titles and artistes and maybe song length)

2. Auomatically refresh tags in the iTunes library - if any song's tags were updated with some other program. Currently I believe you have to play each song in your library in order for iTunes to read the tags and update its library file.
shahed_ameer at 2007-11-15 16:46:51 >
# 6 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
The ability to have a "complete album" checkbox so that when browsing albums on my iPod it only shows me the full ones not the names of albums from which I have odd tracks.
Comrade Chimp at 2007-11-15 16:47:50 >
# 7 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
The ability to transfer ratings, playcount, last played info from the iPod to the iTunes Library when not using auto-sync.
noogabooga at 2007-11-15 16:48:54 >
# 8 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
Couple of things I'd like:
- Multi-sort capability so I could sort by artist and song name or by release year and genre
- Batch printing of cd inserts
Aceon6 at 2007-11-15 16:49:57 >
# 9 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
I would love a way to rate the songs via a keyboard shortcut. This would allow me to use my remote control to add or remove stars. Possible?
Slipknot at 2007-11-15 16:51:03 >
# 10 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
is the ability to load lots of information about tracks and albums eg lyrics, production notes etc. I know that the Music Store uses the Muze database to provide that detail. Can this be incorporated into the "info" field in iTunes??
nmitch59 at 2007-11-15 16:52:04 >
# 11 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
What iTunes really needs is a global keyboard shortcuts plug-in, like Winamp 5 has built-in. Meaning, you can increase playback volume by pressing WIN + UpArrow (or whatever you set it to be), no matter which software is on top.

I really hate having to ALT + TAB to set the focus to iTunes and then having to use the mouse just to pause a song.
Tiketti at 2007-11-15 16:53:03 >
# 12 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
Originally posted by Tiketti
What iTunes really needs is a global keyboard shortcuts plug-in, like Winamp 5 has built-in. Meaning, you can increase playback volume by pressing WIN + UpArrow (or whatever you set it to be), no matter which software is on top.

I really hate having to ALT + TAB to set the focus to iTunes and then having to use the mouse just to pause a song.
I know the feeling... two solutions:

1) press alt-tab to get to iTunes and press space. no mouse needed ;)

2) I've written vb scripts (using the new COM interface) for some actions such as play/pause, next and previous track. you can create a windows shortcut to these files with a global keyboard shortcut. unfortunately, these don't work very well. I use Global Audio Control (http://www.globalaudiocontrol.cjb.net) to control the volume of my sound card with my keyboard and it also supports launching external applications using global keyboard shortcuts. so I'm launching my vb scripts using Global Audio Control.

here's an example for the play/pause script:
' iTunes playpause.vbs
Option Explicit
Dim oiTunes
Set oiTunes = CreateObject("iTunes.Application")
if ( oiTunes.PlayerState = 0 ) then 'ITPlayerStateStopped
oiTunes.Play
else
oiTunes.Pause
end if
elbandido at 2007-11-15 16:54:05 >
# 13 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
How about edit iTunes online? This way if you were at a pc (without your iPod) you could access your iTunes database and change the star ratings, song info, create playlists or decide which songs you want synced next time you're at your pc.

I know this is a bit extreme but a solution to not being able to edit things on your iPod when you're on the go
street_hawk at 2007-11-15 16:55:01 >
# 14 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
Originally posted by Comrade Chimp
Something that really bugs me is CDs that have "bonus tracks" tacked on the end of the last track, so you have a 3 minute song, 10 minutes or so of silence (why do they have to do this?) and another "secret" song all in one track. Currently I would have to rip the one track as WAV, edit it with an audio tool & import the resulting WAVs into iTunes. If iTunes could automatically rip these sort of tracks as 2 separate tracks & throw away the silence bit in the middle that would be very cool.

I hate that! There should be a federal law against that! :D
I have gotten to the point that I will rip the culprit CD, separate the two tracks and then burn the CD so that I don't have to worry about doing it again if I have to rip in the future.

Replaygain support on an album basis not just on a track basis. (One of the biggest chores for me with MP3's was the gain issues and now it is again with AAC, thankfully there is foobar2000)

Automatic downloading of cover art and adding them to the tracks. That takes forever to do by hand.

The ability to add music to the iTunes DB and have it aquire all of the information and tag the files (including cover art). I don't use the iTunes encoder, I use nero and that's why I want that ability.

A nero like "transparency VBR" setting. I would not use the nero encoder if that setting was available.

An option to NOT delete the OTG playlist/currently playing list when syncing. Sometime, just sometimes, I want to actually continue listening where I left off and still update things on my iPod, I should be able to choose if I want these things tampered with. It's MY iPod.

Embeded support for syncing contacts, calendar, email, etc. (At least we have iPod Agent)

Tha's all I can think of.
rmoody at 2007-11-15 16:56:05 >
# 15 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
Finding duplicates is a must for the next version of iTunes. I can't believe they haven't done it already. It's a cinch in programming terms.
They've got to fix the Soundcheck feature because it's useless. I've been manually adjusting the gain on certain albums to compensate.
Aminorcapo3 at 2007-11-15 16:57:09 >
# 16 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
Originally posted by Aminorcapo3
Finding duplicates is a must for the next version of iTunes. I can't believe they haven't done it already. It's a cinch in programming terms.
They've got to fix the Soundcheck feature because it's useless. I've been manually adjusting the gain on certain albums to compensate. I'm going to echo the dupilcates thing as well just because I agree it's one of the most gross over-sites in the thing. Other than that, just want to say thanks in advance for you making this available when you get it done. I know I will definatly welcome a user-written add-on iTunes.
Thanks!
Fry-man22 at 2007-11-15 16:58:02 >
# 17 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
I would greatly appreciate a plugin to enhance the sound quality like that of the Dee Plugin for Winamp. I'm not even sure it's possible. But yea, it would be cool.
philip612 at 2007-11-15 16:59:10 >
# 18 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
My wishlist for Apple:

1. Voice tags so I can call out the name of a song, artist or album, particularly in a car.

2. The ability to have all users of a single computer share the same library.

3. The ability to purchase lossless files from the iTunes Store.
chazzie at 2007-11-15 17:00:04 >
# 19 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
Yeah all the above. Easy. You'll have this done in a couple of weeks right?

:-p

AAC/MP3 gain management is definitely my biggest bug-bear at the moment. Something MP3Gain/Foobar-like, but built in to iTunes, so that the library updates afterwards would just be *so* good.

In particular, I want to be able to apply track gain or album gain, specify the target volume and have a bit of say over whether it goes ahead if it's going to cause the new file to clip.

Good luck!
dangerousd at 2007-11-15 17:01:13 >
# 20 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
I would love to have the possibilty to make a smart playlist that shows all songs without any album/cover art.

If that is not possible a simple script that just saves the track information of all songs without any album/cover art in a txt-file would be lovely.
icecube2000 at 2007-11-15 17:02:07 >
# 21 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
Hey

I have made a program to get cover art! check it out:
http://ipodsoft.com/downloads/itunescover/itunescover.zip

only thing is, do NOT play the playlist which it's downloading art.

It uses amazon to get the album art.

as for duplicates, I have a program for that as well :)
email me if you want it, as it's too small a program to bother uploading seperate page, and I'm not done working on my "iTunes package".

btw icecube, I also have an advanced playlist creator, which uses scripts to make playlists, and yours would be VERY easy to make. If you want it email me, and I'll tell you how, or you could wait till I finish the whole "package" thing lol.
EvilDude at 2007-11-15 17:03:14 >
# 22 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
Hi, thanks for taking all the suggestions.

It would be really great if iTunes had a toolbar that could appear on the windows taskbar for controlling playback without obstructing other windows. A similar capability is already built-in to Windows Media Player.
daedame at 2007-11-15 17:04:13 >
# 23 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
BreakAway1029 has made a program for a "mini display" which is functional like that. I'm still trying to get him to make it completely skinnable coz I can't be bothered to code lol. It works well and he'll add features if you tell him :) check out his thread :

http://ipodlounge.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=32981&goto=newpost
EvilDude at 2007-11-15 17:05:13 >
# 24 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
I've been thinking on this since B.C. (before COM)(tm):

A new field in 'smart playlist' that allows you to link a playlist to a folder instead of a set of songs. Then, if you delete/add a song from/to this folder it will affect the playlist.
vell at 2007-11-15 17:06:13 >
# 25 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
That would be some genious feature!

This is actually the most important argument against iTunes for me.
Since there is an outstanding number of users who dont't like to let iTunes organise the mp3's, this featue would help them to keep all their playlists up to date. I personally use ephpod to sync my ipod, just because it generates automatic playlists for the folders on my harddisc.
Der_Wolf at 2007-11-15 17:07:16 >
# 26 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
I really like to use the check boxes in order to tell itunes what to synch with the ipod, but as my library grew, more and more songs are not checked because they don't fit on the ipod.

the problem is that those can't comfortably be played, so i would love to see an option to disable either one of the two functions the check boxes now have.

a second checkbox collumn would be even better, but i doubt that's realistic.
damn check boxes
berland at 2007-11-15 17:08:16 >
# 27 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
Ive just started using iTunes last night,
its so frustrating,
when i was adding my Music folder to my libary the thing crashed while it was still encoding my .wma files.
when it restarted it seemed to have forgotten about them so i had to do it again. i let it encoding overnight cos there was 1000 wmas to encode and it was pretty late when i started. when i woke up there was a message saying that i had run out of memory on my hard disk, so i deleted some crap and started again.
when i was leaving for work thismorning i had 3 copies of some of the files that were encoded by itunes where as it realised not to duplicate the mp3s.
this is obviously a bug, not just a missing feaure.
also from what my friends have said, if i download some music and put it into my music folder, itunes wont update automatically. i can see this being very tedious aswell and leading to lost songs, an automatic update when its launched would be a nice feature.
im gonna find it really hard to use itunes for listening to music, the windows mp9 mini toolbar is really handy, would be sweet for itunes.

Anybody know when the next version is being released and whats gonna be in it?
dlane99 at 2007-11-15 17:09:11 >
# 28 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
as with the masses a find duplicate feature would be tasty.

secondly I would like to be able to control ipod shuffle mode per playlist, so i could nominate individual playlists shuffle modes:

use ipod setting
no shuffle
auto

etc...

or as a compromise at least an auto shuffle each time i connect to itunes so that I can have the ipod shuffle off, and have itunes auto shuffle playlists.
wastedtalent at 2007-11-15 17:10:17 >
# 29 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
a find duplicate would be nice

EvilDude i sent you a pm...plz read.
Jakx at 2007-11-15 17:11:13 >
# 30 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
Hey

check this out, I made a program to be able to have a skinnable interface to iTunes:
http://www.ipodlounge.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33959

- Prashant

Ps - I replied to PM, and anyone else interested, get the application for duplicate removing here:
http://ipodsoft.com/downloads/itunescover/iTunesMisc.zip

Also has a feature to delete missing files, and an advanced playlist creator.
EvilDude at 2007-11-15 17:12:15 >
# 31 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
Originally posted by EvilDude
Hey

check this out, I made a program to be able to have a skinnable interface to iTunes:
http://www.ipodlounge.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33959

- Prashant

Ps - I replied to PM, and anyone else interested, get the application for duplicate removing here:
http://ipodsoft.com/downloads/itunescover/iTunesMisc.zip

Also has a feature to delete missing files, and an advanced playlist creator. Sweet :cool: :D
Fry-man22 at 2007-11-15 17:13:20 >
# 32 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
@ evildude

thanks alot for your great work!

I have found a bug in your itunesmisc app:

the duplicate removing tool doesn't work for me. i have been running it, but it just occupied my computer with 100% CPU-usage. after 3 hours working i cancelled the job without any result. i have about 10 gbite files.
Der_Wolf at 2007-11-15 17:14:24 >
# 33 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
SOrry to add to the ever growing list, but I really would like a "automatically add to libarary folder" - when you add new music to a certain list of folders, iTunes automatically detects it. If you could ad d a feature like that...thanks!
draell at 2007-11-15 17:15:23 >
# 34 Re: What would YOU like in a itunes addon software?
a big one i haven't seen listed is some way to update play count without syncing hte rest

alot of people run itunes at home and a second location and sync their ipods at home

the problem is the song ids are all different at the second location

what about a way to sync play counts - songs could be identified by 2-4 criteria instead of the song id (ie. song title, artist, album and or legnth)

then the play counts on the ipod and itunes updated
then when you go home and sync to the home itunes - all your play counts (and thus top 50 played smart playlists) would match...

i think the trickiest thing you'd have to do is: find a work around where: the update key on the second itunes is updated for the sync date, but the ipod is not - because i think that's how the home itunes and ipod sync their counts...

thanks!
saw plenty of other features i agree with:
* a duplicates seeker for itunes (so i can run it on the second itunes)
* advanced search so i can narrow down to just pixies songs and not always get "away with the pixies" by ben lee thrown in - either added search qualifiers such as +/- or search fields ie "pixies" in one field "not ben lee" in the other or pull downs like artist/album/song name to specify where you want hte search to happen...
* aceon6's multi sort sounds great
* what about top played artist and top played album? using play counts - add all the plays by artist and all the plays by album

yesterday i berraged apple with requests hahahahaha

thanks!
puck
puckles at 2007-11-15 17:16:28 >
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