Go to Apple.ca or.com now. I can't believe they have the second gen 4GB Nano for $105 Canadian. The 2GB is priced at $85. You will not find a better deal than that. They also have loads of Macbooks and iMacs for sale. A $469 Mac Mac Mini. The 17' 1GB ram, superdrive laden and 160GB HD iMac is a great deal for $929 Cdn. I'm really amazed at the wealth of refurbs they have on there today.