"You Get What You Pay For" -Steve Jobs

I would say yes. The touchscreen, widescreen video viewing, and WiFi all make it worthwhile for me.

Ignoring the screen defect, yes, it is arguably worth it. A few weeks ago $250 got you a 8GB nano that played audio and... oh yeah, that's it. For $50 more you give up the size and somewhat better battery life of the nano and you get audio, movies, wide screen, wi-fi websurfing, games, a slicker interface, etc.

None of this changes the fact that product is a shell of what it could have easily been with some love and tenderness, but it can hardly be considered a bad value relative to the price points Apple has already established for performance with their iPods.

I pay $400 (what a high school kid's 2 week paycheck could be) I better get more than 16GB and screen defects :p

Think about it this way, 16 GB flash cards are around $200-$300 as it is, by themselves.

We all know the value of flash cards buddy. The question is if it's worth it to spend $400 (which is a LOT of money) on 16GB. Especially if the iPod classic does everything the touch does, except Wi-Fi, +10x more space, for $50 less :/

[QUOTE=Dogenzaka]I pay $400 (what a high school kid's 2 week paycheck could be) I better get more than 16GB and screen defects :p

We all know the value of flash cards buddy. The question is if it's worth it to spend $400 (which is a LOT of money) on 16GB. Especially if the iPod classic does everything the touch does, except Wi-Fi, +10x more space, for $50 less :/[/QUOTE

16GB is plenty for me, and while I would be upset if I had screen defects, I don't. In fact, there seems to have been a break in effect on mine. As good as the picture was out of the box, things are starting to look even better now. Richer tones, better contrast.

Yup, I really love this thing.

I also think its worth it, despite the video problem. Nothing is perfect, especially for a 1st gen of anything. It could've been worse.

bobb-mini is right. It only depends on how much you personally want it. You want it enough and no price us unreasonable.

Think about it this way, 16 GB flash cards are around $200-$300 as it is, by themselves. .

doesn't the Touch use 2 8GB flash cards?

"you get what you pay for" is a complete fallacy with the Touch, given that you get more storage space for much less money with the classic, and the only thing you gain is a widescreen display and limited usefulness wifi. almost everything else has been neutered away that it should have had for $400.

They are crippling it if you are comparing it to an iPhone. But like I have said before, look at it as an upgrade from the iPod video, I know its hard (it is for me.) But it will make you appreciate the iPod Touch more. :D

They are crippling it if you are comparing it to an iPhone. But like I have said before, look at it as an upgrade from the iPod video, I know its hard (it is for me.) But it will make you appreciate the iPod Touch more. :D

Sounds like a foolish thing to do, to ignore reality.

Apple's done such a good job marketing that most people haven't picked up on this pricing/value inconsistency yet:

Fact: In addition to everything else it features, the iPhone includes a full-featured iPod (essentially the iPod touch).

Conclusion: We can determine the true value of the iPod touch by looking at the difference in price between the iPhone and the touch.

Let's look at the pricing:

Originally (before $200 iPhone price drop):
iPhone: $600 (8GB model)
iPod touch: $300 (8GB model).
Difference: $300.

iPhone value: $300.
iPod touch true value (which must be the remainder): $300.

Now with $200 price drop for iPhone:

iPhone: $400 (8GB model).
iPod touch: $300 (8GB model).
Difference: $100.

iPhone value: $300.
iPod touch true value (which must be the remainder): $100.

Bottom line: Ever since the iPhone dropped $200 in price, the Touch has been way over-priced (or significantly under-featured).

Jobs says: "But don't look at that - ignore reality and compare it ONLY against previous iPods! Then you'll see the true value of the touch (aka lessen your buyer's remorse and feel like less of a sucker)!! Ooooh! Aaahhh! **Mezmorizes fanboys**"

Well seeing as how the new 8GB iPod Nano actually costs about $82.50 to make and it retails for $199, maybe if it was priced a bit cheaper it would be worth it. Its more worth it to buy a 160GB iPod Classic, and hopefully you won't have screen defects.

Remember the tear down of price does not include R&D and other development costs of the product that are allowed to be recouped in the retail price of a product.

I'd also be pretty skeptical of those particular words coming from Steve Jobs. 400 dollars probably sounds pretty cheap to a gazillionaire like him, but to most of us it's a pretty big bite.

You get what you pay for is only a question that can be answered by a person who actually bought to decide weather or not what they spend is worth what they got.

The question is it worth a certain amount is asked by any person before buying it.

Take the $600 iPhone, many said it wasn't worth the money, others thought it was.

People are going to agree people are going to disagree. People are going to be happy and unhappy. And one persons reason for the touch not being worth $400 dollars will be different than a person who says it is. for instance one person may say the lack of applications or ability to change calendars makes it not worth it, then another person who doesn't need this feature thinks the $ price is worth it based on the devices screen along.

So let bygones be bygones people :D

Yeah yeah touch is nice and all, but its doesn't even come close to the iPhone.