58.41 Reasons to Hate iTunes

bobbit: what's ill about these last two updates (ill in a bad way, not a hip, that's illin' kind of way) is that the last two iTunes updates seem to have been specifically targeted at squashing 3rd party ringtone makers. Apple REALLY doesn't want people getting free ringtones onto iPhone. They want that .99 badly and they're willing to make every iTunes customer do a huge download every few days to stop it.

L.A.M.E.

Shame on you, Apple.

I've really lost a lot of respect for Apple since they ####ed up on the 5th. A lot.

I'm completely with you. They've been making one stupid decision after another since iPhone was announced. It's weird. I'm at a loss to explain it. But there's no question it's happening.

Are they just trying to play with investors to try and make more money or are they going to go back to the days when Jobs got the boot?

Hard to say. It's almost like they're scrambling to make more money. I wonder. Could it be that the iPhone is a secret flop? That would explain a lot of what's happened in the last two months.

I think one of the main reasons that Apple makes you download iTunes all over again (as opposed to smaller patches) is because they essentially have a monopoly on the service. Until someone can make a true iPod killer (and the services to go with it,) there's no need for Apple to change its ways.

The iPhone was a flop. Steve expected it to sell 10 million in the first year and its nowhere near what their expectations were. If Sony could lose $2 billion on the PS3 which is a fantastic device for the price, I can definitely see Apple losing mega bucks on the iPhone. Apple's hardcore fans will say its a success, but it isn't moving as many units as it should be. Jeremy Horowitz absolutely slaughtered the iPod Touch in his well written (and very fair) review. He didn't slaughter it to be mean, he just fairly wrote about it how it is. Many bad decisions are being made. Now there's no white iPod, very strange. The iPod Touch is an iPhone (its as if they accidentally made iPhones improperly and then made a new design but then sold these bad iPhones as "iPod Touches") Jeremy said it himself, 17 minutes to load up a 16GB Touch. Ouch.

As for the iTunes information, I'd personally like to see album details at the bottom, but I can see that not being there because of a Casino like thing "you see how many albums you have you might not want to buy more, but you see the song count and think its cool to go up."
When did he expect it to ship 10 million units in the last half of 2007? Even by Apple standards, that's awfully ambitious. I do recall him stating that they want to move a million units though, which I believe they did earlier this month.

And I certainly wouldn't call the iPhone a flop by any means. The exclusive contract with AT&T alone has probably more than made up for any lost sales of units.

I know they expected a big boost of iPhone sales within America, but now that they are about to hit Europe, it'll be interesting to see how that pans out for the stats of it... Guess we'll find out at MWSF.

[QUOTE=kylo4]The iPhone was a flop. Steve expected it to sell 10 million in the first year and its nowhere near what their expectations were.QUOTE]

10 MILLION!!!!! it could never sell that many in its first year! the iPod didnt sell a million till 4th Gen

those cell phone sales come from the Moto Razr's that you can get for $5 when you sign on to a reasonable $35 a month cell phone plan.

Haha, and you take the award for todays best post!

I would hate to rain on people's self aggrandizement parade of bull caca, but does *anyone* have a citation for that 10,000,000 iPhone sales you are all so sure Steve said.

Search in Google for "Jobs 10 million iphones" and you'll get plenty. He said it in the actual keynote when the iPhone was introduced.

His [near] exact words were that a billion cell phones are sold every year and that Apple wanted to gain 1% of market share which would be 10 million phones." Do the Google search, watch the keynote, its everywhere. So before you say we're writing bs, do your research.
Search in Google for "Jobs 10 million iphones" and you'll get plenty. He said it in the actual keynote when the iPhone was introduced.I did this, and for a while I thought I might actually be wrong. But then I thought to myself, "Self, although I saw a lot of opinion articles about how wrong Jobs was, not a *one* of them actually quoted Jobs." So I went to the actual source. Someone needs to shoot me, because I just watched/listened to the entire iPhone part of the keynote, and the key part doesn't come until the 1 hour and 17 minutes of a 90+ minute presentation.

Jobs did NOT say it. In spite of all the numerous articles that say he said it, he said he planned to sell 10 million iPhones in 2008.

filebox.vt.edu/users/channum/files/jobsdidnotsayit.jpg

And you know what, he probably will.

Please repost with a smaller image.

Nice way to #### up the thread formatting. ;)

So do I, but I like having my favourites thing open :P...

...Are you going to change it? :P

"iTunes 7.4.3 addresses issues with the initial setup of the iPod touch on some international versions of Windows."

I don't have an iPod Touch.
I'm not getting an iPod Touch.
I don't have an international version of Windows.

Give me back my 560mb of bandwidth, you lazy #######s.

Also, Apple, your product is a media player. Why must we restart our computers every time we must update?

It's simple, and if your programmers aren't able to do this, stay the heck away from Windows: Kill all running iTunes, iPod/iPhone and Quicktime services, install PATCHESNOTWHOLEPROGRAMMES, restart services.

They'll be getting a letter from me after MWSF if they don't sort this out.

iTunes 7.4.3 does not ask for a restart when I install...?

I've been told to restart the last few updates, also.

It would be funny if they put that restart message there just to #### off windows users and make them think its XP's fault they have to restart.

My main beef with the countless Itunes updates is that I use Quicktime alternative as opposed to Quicktime which SUCKS. So every time theres a new Itunes update I have to uninstall quicktime and reinstall quicktime alternative.

I hate the upgrade process on Windows machines. My work machine doesn't have privelege to change the registry every couple of days. When I move my iTunes application's short cut in my Start Menu, the next upgrade doesn't care, installing it where it wants it, not where I want it. It's terrible