Eminems publisher sues Apple
[58 byte] By [Mediahound] at [2007-11-9 17:44:50] 
http://www.salon.com/ent/wire/2004/02/24/eminem/index.html
# 1 Re: Eminems publisher sues Apple
Seems a litte, well, stupid of apple if that's true. Surely that's the first thing you do if you use someone's song, you get their permission. Especially someone as famous and full of you-know-what as Eminem.I can't believe they'd have been that stupid.
doctorjuggles at 2007-11-15 14:07:58 >
# 2 Re: Eminems publisher sues Apple
Yeah, there really is no way to side with apple on this one. Eminem is right.ejd142 at 2007-11-15 14:08:58 >
# 3 Re: Eminems publisher sues Apple
Uh-oh... Nice work Steve Jobs! :DDarrell at 2007-11-15 14:10:09 >
# 4 Re: Eminems publisher sues Apple
I think I remember the commercial- wasn't it just the kid singing- you never actually heard the song? I'm not so sure its as black and white as people seem to think it is.MikeM at 2007-11-15 14:11:04 >
# 5 Re: Eminems publisher sues Apple
Originally posted by MikeM I think I remember the commercial- wasn't it just the kid singing- you never actually heard the song? I'm not so sure its as black and white as people seem to think it is.
Yes it was a kid singing, but it was obvious it was the eminem song. You have to get permission to use a song in any context, espically for advertising.
ejd142 at 2007-11-15 14:12:03 >
# 6 Re: Eminems publisher sues Apple
I found this in a google search. I don't know the quality of the source but it certainly supports eminem."In copyright law, any part of a work that is important, distinctive, essential or recognisable is likely to be substantial. A few bars of music may be substantial in this sense, and the use of even short excerpts of music in a soundtrack or multimedia product will generally require permission."
MikeM at 2007-11-15 14:13:02 >
# 7 Re: Eminems publisher sues Apple
If this is true, then Apple's got legal issues. I mean, even if you can't hear the actual song, the kid singing is using the same lyrics and rhythm as the song itself. To me (and I know little about the law so I'm just speaking from common sense here) it would seem that if they used any part of the song (lyrics, melody, rhythm) without recognizing it as somebody else's work, they're screwed.Chelce at 2007-11-15 14:14:05 >
# 8 Re: Eminems publisher sues Apple
It's a stretch, but Apple might be OK if the bit the kid was singing was part of the song preview available through the iTunes Music Store. I dunno though.TerryMathews at 2007-11-15 14:15:08 >
# 9 Re: Eminems publisher sues Apple
I don't remember the commercial. The legal technicalities make sense, but what harm could it do to eminem and his publishers? The song is old, done, and no one wants to hear it anymore. If anything, this is giving him more publicity, and if you think about it, he hasn't done anything public in a while. Are the two related?dLev at 2007-11-15 14:16:05 >
# 10 Re: Eminems publisher sues Apple
the ppl that are running scared are the ad agency. thay shoud do the copyright clearence and have that infor for apple befor submitting the ad for a green light.jbloodwo at 2007-11-15 14:17:08 >
# 11 Re: Eminems publisher sues Apple
Couldn't Apple just clain that they 'sampled' his song to make their own art piece? Guys like eminem do it all of the time, why can't Apple? :DMikeM at 2007-11-15 14:18:07 >
# 12 Re: Eminems publisher sues Apple
Originally posted by MikeM Couldn't Apple just clain that they 'sampled' his song to make their own art piece? Guys like eminem do it all of the time, why can't Apple? :D
Artists who use samples always get permission to use those samples. If they don't they get into lawsuits. For example look at the beastie boys, they are still battling a lawsuit from when they released Pauls Boutique back in the 80's.
ejd142 at 2007-11-15 14:19:16 >
# 13 Re: Eminems publisher sues Apple
M&M/Mars should sue "eminem" for copyright infringement of their Trademarked name.The kid in the commercial was not singing "Lose Yourself" by eminem, he was actually singing "Looze Yerself".
noryen at 2007-11-15 14:20:11 >
# 14 Re: Eminems publisher sues Apple
stark23x,I was just being facetious and sarcastic. (But I realize that text sometimes does not convey that)
Yes, I know no one today would confuse eminem with M&M's, but honestly when I first heard radio DJ's talk about eminem for the very first time several years back, I thought to myself "what kind of crackpot rapper would call himself M&M"... I'm sure many other people thought the same thing.
It's plainly obvious that he stole the name and just phonetically spelled it out. If he simply wanted to abbreviate Marshall Mathers then it would come out as "emem" (MM) not eminem (M&M).
But you can get sued over this. Case in point, the teen named Mike Rowe who started his own personal website but was sued by Microsoft... I'm sure no one would confuse the teenager with the corporate giant.
noryen at 2007-11-15 14:21:17 >
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