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applecare! (apparently) mac mini

i got a phone call from apple today, which is wasnt able to pick up thankfully at the time, i did a ringback and i found out it was apple care.

well i looked this up on the website, and i saw that the phone service for mac mini support lasts for 90 days and the apple care package protects and supports the mac mino for a total of 3 years.

i had my itunes store set to the us and i looked up how much it cost $159 great i thought about 77 not so, for us its 129. ok so lets assume we are paying for tax, thats about 89 and i did work it out by the way, but its roughly right as i am working from memory. so when she called me back, she told me all the things about apple care, and i said i am interested but can you tell me why apple care is so much more expensive in the uk.

She said hang on ill have to ask my manager so i waited, and she came back and she said that apple support was only about 44 a month, i said thats fine, im not actually saying its expensive im asking why we pay more than the us does. she said hang on a minute my other manager has just come in ill ask him, she was gone for a while and then she came back and said the only thing we can tell you is that the us applecare has been going 8 years and the uk one has only been going 4 years, and we have to employ less people in us that in the uk cos the people are more experienced, i know this isnt really a good excuse and we have no excuse for it but thats the best we can do.

So basically the costs of the uk call centre is being transferred to the customers, because it costs them more to set up here, than in the us!

thanks again apple! for ripping us off, sufficed to say that i didnt take out the extra time, id prefer to hedge my bets a little bit! anyone else have any views on this?

I now have an expert centre nearby me so hopefully i can just go there if i get hardware problems.
[1921 byte] By [genomeman] at [2007-11-11 17:02:39]
# 1 Re: applecare! (apparently) mac mini
Economics are economics. The economics and cost in the UK are different than in the US, you can't compare directly just on currency conversion. It's not a rip-off, it's economics. A company doesn't have the right to appropriately recoup the costs of their programs?

There was one hell of a conversation on this a while back when it came to iTunes Music Store download discrepancy as well... Not sure where that thread is.
studogvetmed at 2007-11-15 17:56:14 >
# 2 Re: applecare! (apparently) mac mini
You're paying Uncle Gordon 17.5% extra, for starters. Which would take it to $188.00 (97.30)

And the price is set according to the most favourable exchange rate, and it happens to be about as far as its possible to get at the other end of the spectrum at the moment. If the rate was down closer to 1.50:1 (as it has been) the 125 figure makes sense.

In any case, is 3 years of Applecare worth 125? 42 per year?

You'd have to be mad not to sign up.
Jackonicko at 2007-11-15 17:57:13 >
# 3 Re: applecare! (apparently) mac mini
Applecare is not what it once was.
LukeA at 2007-11-15 17:58:11 >
# 4 Re: applecare! (apparently) mac mini
In any case, is 3 years of Applecare worth 125? 42 per year?

You'd have to be mad not to sign up.

well if you people have got that sort of money to throw away on what i call extortion then good luck to you, but i think its justs a darn right rip off.

ill take my chances and hope for the best when or if it breaks!
genomeman at 2007-11-15 17:59:17 >
# 5 Re: applecare! (apparently) mac mini
well if you people have got that sort of money to throw away on what i call extortion then good luck to you, but i think its justs a darn right rip off.

ill take my chances and hope for the best when or if it breaks!

That's a chance you have to decide to take.

In general apple care is cheaper than a one time out of warranty service call.

I wouldn't live without it on a portable mac, a little less likely on a desktop machine, but I have had 100% excellent apple care service in my time, and the one time I didn't have it I wish I did.

What you call extortion may be a decent deal to others, just because you think it's extortion doesn't mean that it is.

Applecare is one of the few extended warranties I believe in. In the US at least, it's been under 10% of of the purchase price to extend the warranty, and your in warranty service has an extra measure of customer service than without it.

The good news is you have during your first year to purchase it, you don't have to buy it right away, you can purchase it anytime during your first year as long as it's activated before your warranty expires.

It's definitely a cost benefit analysis and it won't be feasible to all people involved. Comparing the price to the US price is crazy in my opinion though. You have to interpret in your own face of economics.

It's better than the $400 bucks my wife decided to shell out for a gateway extended warranty that we have had nothing but terrible customer service with :(
studogvetmed at 2007-11-15 18:00:16 >
# 6 Re: applecare! (apparently) mac mini
What you call extortion may be a decent deal to others, just because you think it's extortion doesn't mean that it is.

Just because you think it isn't extortion doesn't mean it isn't.

It runs both ways.
LukeA at 2007-11-15 18:01:13 >
# 7 Re: applecare! (apparently) mac mini
Just because you think it isn't extortion doesn't mean it isn't.

It runs both ways.

Touch :p More likely "rip-off" than extortion, though.
studogvetmed at 2007-11-15 18:02:17 >
# 8 Re: applecare! (apparently) mac mini
If you look around, everything is more expensive in the UK compared to US prices. It's just a more expensive place to live- but people are also payed more than in the US.

Average salary in the United States is $36,764
Average salary in the United Kingdom is 22,2481 (currently $43,373.17)

If US = 1, UK = 1.18

So if you take those numbers, AppleCare is:

US - $149
UK - 129 (currently $248.91)

US = 1, UK = 1.66

Alright... it's a bit more expensive ($100, actually)...

That's my math for the day.
pohatu771 at 2007-11-15 18:03:20 >
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