V for Vendetta
Is V in V for Vendetta a freedom fighter or is he a terrorist...some parts of me think he is both but i need 1 choice...i cant choose both...please if you can back up your answer..thanks and vote for which one you think.
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Eric Lewis] at [2007-11-11 16:55:48]

# 1 Re: V for Vendetta
He's a fictional character.....
Bob at 2007-11-15 17:56:15 >

# 2 Re: V for Vendetta
i know its fictional...but i still need to know the answer
# 3 Re: V for Vendetta
Freedom Fighter. If I remember correctly, he made sure that no civilians were hurt during his demonstrations and told everyone about his final plan a year in advance.
Though, you could make a case for either.
# 4 Re: V for Vendetta
One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist...
Please don't reveal the end - I just got this on DVD.....
“Voil! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is it vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose so let me simply add that it’s my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V.”
Bob at 2007-11-15 17:59:17 >

# 5 Re: V for Vendetta
If you can't chose both, then the person asking the question is forcing unnecessary myopia. Terrorism isn't just defined as killing civilians; it also includes destruction of property. The main characteristic that makes it "terrorism" is the intent to coerce people or governments. But since the terrorism is armed rebellion against an oppressive government, he was also a freedom fighter.
I assume this is sort of class report. I would probably just refuse to accept that "both" should not be an option. Its been quite awhile since I saw the movie, but doesn't your being forced to pick one or the other disregard the meaning of the movie? Could it be that the point of the class exercise is to get you to pick both even when you're not told to?
If you really want to pick one, maybe just pick whatever you feel the majority of the people in the movie would have considered him.
bdb at 2007-11-15 18:00:16 >

# 6 Re: V for Vendetta
I voted for Freedom Fighter. With all the things he's had to go through, it's no surprise he wants revenge, and and he only wants it on very bad people. With the government being as corrupt and evil as it is, V is the good guy in the movie, despite his actions. Read the book, it's better than the movie.
# 7 Re: V for Vendetta
Why does this sound like a homework assignment?
mithra at 2007-11-15 18:02:20 >

# 8 Re: V for Vendetta
Why does this sound like a homework assignment?
Probably because it is one.
# 9 Re: V for Vendetta
Perhaps we need a "do my homework for me" forum.
bdb at 2007-11-15 18:04:18 >

# 10 Re: V for Vendetta
I voted Freedom Fighter but the line is honestly VERY thin.
# 11 Re: V for Vendetta
To some the IRA were freedom fighters - to many more, they were terrorists.
Bob at 2007-11-15 18:06:29 >

# 12 Re: V for Vendetta
Perhaps we need a "do my homework for me" forum.
We may have to think about that, I have some evolution, microecon and spanish that needs a-doin'. Of course, at least I'm honest about it (next time eric, just say that you need an opinion on your homework rather than "i just need to know")
on another note, I think that the only difference between the terms terrorist and freedom fighter are in how the person views themselves.
# 13 Re: V for Vendetta
I think the difference is who they are fighting against. If someone blows up the Magic Kingdom because King Mickey isn't giving away enough free ice cream, that's terrorism. Obviously, things aren't quite as clear cut as that, but in V for Vendetta it is that clear. The people V fights are evil people, and it's hard to show a point of view that makes them look like good people.
Maybe they're trying to create order in the anarchy, which is in and of itself honorable and good, but they're only doing it for their own benefit. Mix in some torture and genetic experimentation and you've got yourself an evil regime waiting to be destroyed: BY A FREEDOM FIGHTER!
# 14 Re: V for Vendetta
Whoa Papa, that second para sounds like a certain government....:D
Bob at 2007-11-15 18:09:27 >

# 15 Re: V for Vendetta
That's a premonition if I ever saw one!
I have some homework I would like to bring to the group. I take Microeconomics too Moe, care to exchange notes? :)
neb at 2007-11-15 18:10:30 >

# 16 Re: V for Vendetta
I loved his style. His way of talking, his elegance, and especially that lil' fight towards the end. Oh yeah, and I think he is a freedom fighter. I don't see him as a terrorist by any means. He gave certain people what they deserve.
# 17 Re: V for Vendetta
Alan Moore, the author of the comic, has said "...the central question is, is this guy right? Or is he mad? What do you, the reader, think about this? Which struck me as a properly anarchist solution. I didn't want to tell people what to think, I just wanted to tell people to think, and consider some of these admittedly extreme little elements, which nevertheless do recur fairly regularly throughout human history."
So, according to the author, it is a 'to each his own' type of situation. The Wikipedia page for the story has some interesting stuff too.
And when I said to read the book, I meant the comic, not the novelization of the movie.
# 18 Re: V for Vendetta
Was Timothy McVeigh a terrorist or a freedom fighter?
# 19 Re: V for Vendetta
Was Timothy McVeigh a terrorist or a freedom fighter?
That's a very slippery slope you're travelling down there, my friend. Not sure if you're trying to make a point, or what, but however you meant it to come off, you may not want to pursue it any further. What happened with that bombing was nothing but a tragedy.
# 20 Re: V for Vendetta
Not the event itself, but motives. Nevermind, I'd rather keep reality away from fiction as well.
# 21 Re: V for Vendetta
Was Timothy McVeigh a terrorist or a freedom fighter?
U know, I don't even know what he was for. Fighting freedom for whom? where are his followers? Had really no great plan except for making a point. From just a neutral point of view, of someone (McVeigh) who wanted to change something? he sure had no great plan, no smart way of going about it. Left, really, no lasting legacy of what he was for.
# 22 Re: V for Vendetta
I don't know if you can regard him as a complete freedom fighter. It looked more like he was trying to take revenge...
# 23 Re: V for Vendetta
One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist...
Where did that quote originate? I've heard it dozens of times, but I've never been able to find the person who said it originally.
# 24 Re: V for Vendetta
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
Raoul ( http://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_James_Bond_allies_in_Die_A nother_Day&action=edit) in Die Another Day ( http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Die_Another_Day)
# 25 Re: V for Vendetta
It most definitely didn't originate from a Bond flick ;)