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Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?

I am doing a persuasive essay. I am trying to persuade my class that we should be allowed to listen to music in class. Of course, it is a privelidge. If your grade drops below an 80% or you do something against the rules, you don't get to listen to music.You can not have your music too loud either. It needs to be so the people that aren't listening to music won't be bothered. Also, if the class agrees, the teacher can play some comforting music, such as classical, for the whole class. The students would not be allowed to listen to music during lectures, only when the teacher says you can.

Who here thinks that listening to music helps them concentrate? I know it does for me, because it blocks out all the background noise.
[755 byte] By [fuzzyhair] at [2007-11-11 16:44:50]
# 1 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
This is actually a pretty good idea. I like what you have outlined. AFAIK several of my oldest daughters classes do this.
baggss at 2007-11-15 17:56:19 >
# 2 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
Ambient music is fine for non-lecture class time, but not everyone feels that they can concentrate with music. I listen to music at work, but I keep my door closed so I don't bother the people outside in their cubicles. It's not really fair to them if they find it distracting.
JMG at 2007-11-15 17:57:20 >
# 3 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
I usually listen to music while I study however, I had to vote No on this poll. The main reason being is that the classroom is a place of instruction and unless the music is very soft and instrumental I doubt that very many students would be able to fully comprehend the lectures/instruction. Also, today's culture of students are not typically the type to listen to soft, instrumental music.

Also, I don't know if you are looking to have iPods allowed during all times of class but they definitely couldn't be allowed during quizzes or tests just for the fact that someone could put study material in voice form on the iPod as an easy way to cheat.

I think that listening to music is fine during homework or reading but in my opinion there is no place for them in the classroom.
anypats at 2007-11-15 17:58:19 >
# 4 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
At my school, if the teacher is not lecturing, most of the time the teacher will let us listen to music while we are working.

Personally, I usually cannot concentrate with music.
iPod Master at 2007-11-15 17:59:22 >
# 5 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
Under the conditions you stipulate - not during lectures or tests, it sounds fine to me. I'd set the grade limit higher, like 85, to make it an incentive.

Allowing the teacher to play music is a bad idea. There's no accounting for tastes, and anyone who doesn't like it could be pressured into capitulating.
bdb at 2007-11-15 18:00:21 >
# 6 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
High School or College?
RatherPlayHalo at 2007-11-15 18:01:20 >
# 7 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
The only time you should be listening to music is when you are in a music class - schooling has got soft. Teachers prefer to allow their students to listen to music rather than try and impose discipline and control on the class - they don't want lippy students giving them yet more grief to go on top of all the crap they have to deal with already...

IMO it's a cop out for lazy teachers...
Bob at 2007-11-15 18:02:24 >
# 8 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
I disagree.
I wouldn't say it's a cop-out.

I think that each teacher should be allowed to decide for themselves who deserves to listen to music. I know that when I did Advanced Higher Maths at high school I was allowed to listen to music but only because I asked. And even then, I only tended to ask during double-periods when I knew there'd be little in the way of 'lecturing' (ie we were just continuing on with work from last time).
I know that I was allowed to do this because I worked hard, did well and behaved in class. I also know that if it were a different teacher, I wouldn't even have asked - I'd had this same teacher for 4 years and he knew he could trust me. In fact, my AH Maths class actually had two teachers who we got at different times in the week and taught us different parts of the course simultaneously, it was only with one of the teachers that I felt comfortable enough to ask.

That aside, I would say that, on the whole, it's a bad idea.
Most kids don't deserve to listen to music in class and it is liable only to serve as a distraction. That said, just because it wouldn't work in the majority of cases doesn't mean that the few who would continue to work hard and do well if allowed to listen to music should be denied the chance to do so.
Step666 at 2007-11-15 18:03:28 >
# 9 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
I am a firm believer that in school, unless you are in music class the only thing you should be listening to is your teacher. As for the question about allowing music in class, I think it is a very bad idea.

Why should teachers allow music in class? It is like bribing people to do work they are supposed to be doing. I agree with madpict is it an excuse for lazy people and instills fake realities. Working hard does not always yield a reward but by letting kids listen to music with this bribery system makes them think otherwise.
toothpaste at 2007-11-15 18:04:23 >
# 10 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
I'd love to listen to music, but I say no. It's school, not listen to music time. I would say yes to study halls though.
papayaninja at 2007-11-15 18:05:25 >
# 11 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
they used to let us do that, but then some wanker put test answers on his iPod so we can't do it anymore
mrdantownsend at 2007-11-15 18:06:23 >
# 12 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
I'm with TP and Madpict.

And if you're so stupid that you can't spell simple words like 'privilege' then you need remedial English, not background music!
Jackonicko at 2007-11-15 18:07:32 >
# 13 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
I'm going to have to go with no here. I was in a class where the teacher would let people listen to music when she had in class assignments, but people began interrupting her asking if they could listen to music. It became a distraction in class.

Also to add to the spelling thing, don't most browsers have spell checkers built it?
Nickster at 2007-11-15 18:08:28 >
# 14 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
Also to add to the spelling thing, don't most browsers have spell checkers built it?
I'm sorry about that. I was using a school computer. I usually never have bad spelling on the internet, but the old Internet Explorer did not have a spell check.
fuzzyhair at 2007-11-15 18:09:31 >
# 15 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
I'm sorry about that. I was using a school computer. I usually never have bad spelling on the internet, but the old Internet Explorer did not have a spell check.
It's cool. I don't really care about the spelling, as long as I understand what you are trying to say.
Nickster at 2007-11-15 18:10:35 >
# 16 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
btw this is for high school.
fuzzyhair at 2007-11-15 18:11:29 >
# 17 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
btw this is for high school.

Absolutely not. It's disrespectful. In my Macroeconomics class of 400, though, I do occasionally pop in the white earbuds. It's a lot different in college. I think you can do whatever you want, skip classes whenever you want, as long as you get the grade in the end.
RatherPlayHalo at 2007-11-15 18:12:37 >
# 18 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
How could you honestly listen to a teacher and music at the same time? Study Hall or Lunch, maybe. But good luck selling this idea.

BTW, I'd have to admit my test scores would have most likely been higher if I was allowed music.
jwc110869 at 2007-11-15 18:13:39 >
# 19 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
How could you honestly listen to a teacher and music at the same time?

That's why I said the teacher has control of when you can or can't listen to music.
fuzzyhair at 2007-11-15 18:14:37 >
# 20 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
Heh, and there was me thinking my 1960's 70's approach to education would get me flamed. The great thing about my time at school was the music lessons - we had a 'trendy/hip' teacher (who ended up being 'related' to me for a while) who allowed pupils to bring in their favourite LP's (large flat vinyl discs) for some lessons.

While I could apreciate Deep Purple to a degree I managed to supress the howls of laughter at the lad who brought in T Rex...
Bob at 2007-11-15 18:15:39 >
# 21 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
I don't think this would be a good idea.

Kids will blare their music so that classrooms down the hall can hear. Other kids will tap their feet or bang on their desk with their pencil. It would end up being a distraction no matter what.

At our school they bit the bullet on MP3 players. Any student caught even with a wire hanging out of their clothing (not in their ears) will get a detention. I think it's good to enforce the rule as to not cause distraction during class time.

I don't think some kids will listen to the whole 85% average rule wither. People in my class will sit at the back corner and put the earbud in the ear so the teacher can't see. The bobbing of the head and the unnecessary loud music is a dead giveaway though.
habsrock13 at 2007-11-15 18:16:36 >
# 22 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
You should have put a "Sometimes" option for the poll. I don't really want to listen to music in class, because my grades will suffer and I can't pay attention to my music AND the teacher at the same time. Most teachers in my school let you listen to music when you're doing in-class work, but not when the teacher is speaking. That works for me, 'cause I actually want to get good grades in school. I said I would choose "Sometimes" because I would like to listen to my music during the boring classes like Math.

I DO actually, however, do homework a lot faster and better while i'm listening to music because it shuts out all distractions.
L33tG4m3r at 2007-11-15 18:17:34 >
# 23 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
Music has its uses, but only in a handful of classes. Namely, the varieties of music and English (or your vernacular) classes.
pohatu771 at 2007-11-15 18:18:43 >
# 24 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
a lot of you are lucky b/c my school has a STRICT no music policy. even before and after school i mean WTF. getting caught is an automatic ipod being taken away and MINIMUM of 1 saturday SUSPENSION.
nickster9224 at 2007-11-15 18:19:43 >
# 25 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
I think it'd be fine, especially when you're just working when the teacher doesn't give you instructions, and as long as it's at a reasonable sound level, for you to be able to hear the teacher, and pause the music to see what she has to say. I listen to music when studying, helps me concentrate, so yea.

k.i.
Krn iPod at 2007-11-15 18:20:37 >
# 26 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
I'm sorry about that. I was using a school computer. I usually never have bad spelling on the internet, but the old Internet Explorer did not have a spell check.

Excuses, excuses. :p

I'd say no. If a teacher uses classtime for seatwork, that's not a good use for classtime anyway.
mjmoonwalker at 2007-11-15 18:21:38 >
# 27 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
"How could you honestly listen to a teacher and music at the same time?"

"Kids will blare their music so that classrooms down the hall can hear."

It seems some people are probably voting no here because they're not reading the rules originally outlined. The original proposal was that that this would be only personal music (earbuds/headphones), and never during lectures or tests.
bdb at 2007-11-15 18:22:44 >
# 28 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
I just cannot agree to this. I am a university student and I use music extensively throughout my day, mainly the half an hour walk to and from the campus. The amount of white earbuds I see each day is phenomenal and I am sure that your respective institutions are similar. With greater academic freedom comes greater responsibility and we are allowed to listen to music freely, either through personal devices or small speaker systems. Please note that the latter is only allowed in non-study areas such as the many cafs and eateries around campus.

Lessons are a different ball game. Music has a distracting quality which I find unwelcome when I am doing my studies. Listening whilst reading splits your mind's attention between the text and the lyrics. If you can blockout the music and concentrate solely on your reading that there is little point in having music on in the first place! I am unable to divide my attention between the two mediums and maintain a decent grasp of the text and the music swilling around my ears.

An implementation of this music policy would be detrimental to students' studies. It would be unfair on those that do not choose to listen as there will inevitably be noise pollution - even with earphones. It would be impossible to gauge whether music would act as an aid or hindrance until its too late. And by that time you could have an awful lot of students failing because of the lax rules.
neb at 2007-11-15 18:23:47 >
# 29 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
Depends on who is paying for the education. If I'm paying, through tax dollars or by paying my child's tuition, I expect full attention to the lessons.

I'm an old fart, but I think cell phones, PDAs, iPods and the like should be collected at the door before each class. Doing so would level the playing field for all students.
Aceon6 at 2007-11-15 18:24:43 >
# 30 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
I can see how this plays out in real life (in the US). Some student slacks off (or actually does do worse because of the music, but that's probably less likely), and the parents sue the school. The school might as well crack down to begin with, because they'll eventually have to. The only way this would work is with parent consent, and some acknowledgement of the risk of performance degradation.

Certainly music with lyrics is terrible for studying. I find it distracting for work as well, and between my daughter and me our fastest-growing genre is instrumental. She listens to music while studying nearly all of the time, and her grades haven't suffered.
bdb at 2007-11-15 18:25:46 >
# 31 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
I voted no. While Music is my life, and while I found School boring and annoying, I think that had I been allowed to listen to Music during class, I would have learnt less than I did. Music is a distraction. You cannot pay the same amount of attention whilst listening to Music, and if you can, then as neb said, what's the point in having the Music if you're just blocking it out?

Heh, and there was me thinking my 1960's 70's approach to education would get me flamed. The great thing about my time at school was the music lessons - we had a 'trendy/hip' teacher (who ended up being 'related' to me for a while) who allowed pupils to bring in their favourite LP's (large flat vinyl discs) for some lessons.

While I could apreciate Deep Purple to a degree I managed to supress the howls of laughter at the lad who brought in T Rex...

I like the way you explain what an LP is. :D

However, I don't like what you said about T. Rex! T. Rex are much better than Deep Purple. Much better. What's wrong with T. Rex?
Emultion_Rawks at 2007-11-15 18:26:46 >
# 32 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
Nothing now - he wrote some classic glam pop songs - it was just he was the teeny bopper icon when I was at school. Us 'guys' listened to "proper bands" like Deep Purple or The Nice even Status Quo :eek: etc etc

I still laugh at Bolan's habit of glancing up at the studio monitors and pursing his lips, just so, but like many musicians and bands I disliked when I was younger (even genres) I now appreciate them a little more...
Bob at 2007-11-15 18:27:47 >
# 33 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
Nothing now - he wrote some classic glam pop songs - it was just he was the teeny bopper icon when I was at school. Us 'guys' listened to "proper bands" like Deep Purple or The Nice even Status Quo :eek: etc etc

I still laugh at Bolan's habit of glancing up at the studio monitors and pursing his lips, just so, but like many musicians and bands I disliked when I was younger (even genres) I now appreciate them a little more...

Ah right, fair enough! I should say that in my opinion T. Rex are better, but of course, it's not fact... :)
Emultion_Rawks at 2007-11-15 18:28:49 >
# 34 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
I think it should be up to the teacher, not the school.
Shikyo at 2007-11-15 18:29:54 >
# 35 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
I voted no just for the very reason that while it may work for some, it's not going to work for a lot of other students. I know it wouldn't work for my son, and I don't pay high school fees for him to listen to music. While other students in his class may be unaffected, as you say, but it's unfortunate for you that it must be one rule for all in my eyes.
melsmusic at 2007-11-15 18:30:48 >
# 36 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
my art teacher lets us listen to music, i guess so we get more creative or something
samleeper92 at 2007-11-15 18:31:58 >
# 37 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
I voted no for the same reason Mel, Jacko and Madpict did.
Kristiano at 2007-11-15 18:32:50 >
# 38 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
I am doing a persuasive essay. I am trying to persuade my class that we should be allowed to listen to music in class. Of course, it is a privelidge. If your grade drops below an 80% or you do something against the rules, you don't get to listen to music.You can not have your music too loud either. It needs to be so the people that aren't listening to music won't be bothered. Also, if the class agrees, the teacher can play some comforting music, such as classical, for the whole class. The students would not be allowed to listen to music during lectures, only when the teacher says you can.

Who here thinks that listening to music helps them concentrate? I know it does for me, because it blocks out all the background noise.
If thats the case, than easily yes...listening to music during lectures is usually disrespectful and plain dumb imo.
Phillyzero at 2007-11-15 18:33:54 >
# 39 Re: Should students be allowed to listen to to music during class?
Since I am doing the persuading, I am afraid that I will get the question, "What about the students who can't afford a portable audio player?" I am not talking about an mp3 player, just some form of audio player.

I am thinking I'm just going to respond, "Who here doesn't have some form of portable audio player? They sell tape players new for $5 at the local dollar store. You can get them for even cheaper, about $.50 at thrift stores. If you really want one, you can most likely afford it."
fuzzyhair at 2007-11-15 18:34:54 >
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