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Vinyl or CD?

I heard some people say music on vinyl sounds better than a CD. Is this true?
[77 byte] By [superspiffy] at [2007-11-11 16:41:03]
# 1 Re: Vinyl or CD?
I think it's a very subjective thing. In some cases, on good clean vinyl, I think it does, but not in all cases.
baggss at 2007-11-15 17:56:19 >
# 2 Re: Vinyl or CD?
I think it's a very subjective thing. In some cases, on good clean vinyl, I think it does, but not in all cases.

can you give a reason why? Because aren't the music on CDs supposedly digitally remastered ?
superspiffy at 2007-11-15 17:57:19 >
# 3 Re: Vinyl or CD?
The music on some albums seems to sound better to my ears. I can't really be more specific than that as I'm not really and audiophile I just know what sounds good to me. As I said, it is very subjective and the album has to be very clean.
baggss at 2007-11-15 17:58:18 >
# 4 Re: Vinyl or CD?
I find that a clean vinyl has a richer, warmer tone than CD. In such a case the music does sound better to my ears.
jedk at 2007-11-15 17:59:23 >
# 5 Re: Vinyl or CD?
It was something a lot of us noticed when CDs first started becoming available; vinyl just has a more pleasant sound that most would describe as "warm". I'm sure the sound of the CDs have improved over the years, but "digital" doesn't necessarily mean "better".

That being said, I'm more than happy to leave my turntable in the closet. It was a major pain to keep vinyl records in that pristine state necessary to prevent pops and cracks.
bdb at 2007-11-15 18:00:22 >
# 6 Re: Vinyl or CD?
It's worth pointing out that music that is already available on CD can still be remastered. So the limiting factor is what is done in the studio to the record. Aside from that, I think the others have given you the right answer. There is something more magical to playing a vinyl record for the first time as opposed to a CD.
neb at 2007-11-15 18:01:22 >
# 7 Re: Vinyl or CD?
I have a turntable hooked up to the line in on my sound card, and as long as you wipe the dirt and dust off of the record, it will sound good. Also theres some stuff like homer and jethro, that will never get released on CD.
Stevenjuke at 2007-11-15 18:02:26 >
# 8 Re: Vinyl or CD?
What about playing CD through Tube equipment, do u notice a difference - really?
bobb-mini at 2007-11-15 18:03:29 >
# 9 Re: Vinyl or CD?
I heard some people say music on vinyl sounds better than a CD. Is this true?

Yes. Analog always sounds better than digital. It has that "warm" feeling or richer sound than the cold crisp sound of cds.
toothpaste at 2007-11-15 18:04:24 >
# 10 Re: Vinyl or CD?
Agree that the vinyl sounds warmer. I notice it mostly when there's a gradual change in the music, a rise or fall, instruments coming in and out, or when there's a fade or transition.
Aceon6 at 2007-11-15 18:05:25 >
# 11 Re: Vinyl or CD?
"What about playing CD through Tube equipment, do u notice a difference - really?"

Darned right I do!

I've been listening to a Fatman iTube since before Christmas and it is SUPERB. The difference is astonishing, and it really does remind me of listening to vinyl.
Jackonicko at 2007-11-15 18:06:34 >
# 12 Re: Vinyl or CD?
Well, part of it is electro-mechanical. The CD player has to do a DA conversion, and it may not have the best chip in the world. The CD player also has active circuitry in it, which may or may not yield sonic goodness (back in the day, the first thing you did with a top-notch CD player was replace the cheapest-bid output caps with tantalum caps).

OTOH, a phono cartridge uses very mature technology, with far fewer failure points than a CD mechanism. Much more under the user's control; easier to tweak. And I'm old enough (or old-fashioned enough ;-) to still have a love for the analog signal path (and all the phasing, resonance, etc. that comes with it).

S2
S2_Mac at 2007-11-15 18:07:32 >
# 13 Re: Vinyl or CD?
I've played Abbey Road on vinyl (1969) and on CD (1987) through the same equipment, and I'll say, there's something special to the vinyl. It's not that it's a better quality, it just has a different tone.

It's like two different guitars. It's not a different sound, it's just that that sound feels different to your ears.
pohatu771 at 2007-11-15 18:08:29 >
# 14 Re: Vinyl or CD?
surely cd's will never truly sound better than vinyl because of the sound equipment you're using? what i mean is with cd's you're limited by your speakers, earphones? But i guess that could also be said with vinyl with the quality of the needle etc.
Mina at 2007-11-15 18:09:35 >
# 15 Re: Vinyl or CD?
I find it depends on the quality of the equipment used. A crap CD player with give crappy sound. Same with a turntable.
Macromedia at 2007-11-15 18:10:38 >
# 16 Re: Vinyl or CD?
While oggling about vinyls, I gotta say, from digital, it's far easier to obtain that wide dynamic range, from dead silence to full-throttle, in a very short time (ez handling of fast attacks or steep slew rate), which gives performances impact.

And digital has much better low-end bass, I forget wha't the low-end roll off of vinyls, but digital, there is no roll off, the frequency response here is basically limited by your subwoofer. Perhaps when there was no CD, the mixing people went heh, why bother to put in low bass when the average consumer system can't reproduce it... not sure.
bobb-mini at 2007-11-15 18:11:31 >
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