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Any precedents for iPods in class?

Personally, having and listening to my ipod in class helps me focus and concentrate. My school like many others being headed my narrowminded dip####s finds it necesary to completely ban all mp3 players, even from personal study in the library. Im trying to write a report/letter to the principal detailing why they should be allowed and im looking for any precedents or tests conducted somewhere that would support my theory that ipods are a helpful tool in the classroom, thanks. edit*should have placed in sub-forum, woops*
[525 byte] By [Sputs] at [2007-11-11 16:50:36]
# 1 Re: Any precedents for iPods in class?
I have to go with the school on this one. Unless one's using a pair of IEM, In-Ears phones, the person next can hear u cranking it up, OK not u but *somebody* will.

Yeah it suxs, just move quickly to college, where u can DO ANYTHING short of yelling Fire!
bobb-mini at 2007-11-15 15:12:09 >
# 2 Re: Any precedents for iPods in class?
I agree with bobb-mini and the school. Maybe you can concentrate while listening to music, but that may not be the same for everyone else.

It can become a distraction in the classroom. Some people will, as bobb-mini said, crank up their music and others will tap their feet and bang their desk.

As for the personal studying in the library, is this during lunch time? If so, lunch break is YOUR time so you have every right to sit quietly somewhere with low music and study. Our library allows music as long as its low. But for the rest of my school, its banned completely (other than hallways).
habsrock13 at 2007-11-15 15:13:05 >
# 3 Re: Any precedents for iPods in class?
I'm going to have to side with habs and bobb on this one as well. Mp3 players are banned from the school I went to as well, if you were even seen with them it'd be confiscated. So many people would tune out the teacher and blare it, resulting in other student's not concentrating. Plus the school doesn't want to be liable if they're stolen.
kylo4 at 2007-11-15 15:14:15 >
# 4 Re: Any precedents for iPods in class?
My wife is a teacher, and the school she teaches at does not (yet) have a ban on iPods or cell phones. She has no problem with kids listening to their iPods during their own working time (she is a music teacher, after all ;) ), but the reality in this case is that there are days that she spends too much time telling kids to put their iPods away and pay attention when they're supposed to be listening, since many kids aren't mature enough to draw the line between when they should and shouldn't be listening to their iPod versus listening to the teacher.

I'm quite certain that if all students were responsible enough to only only pull out their iPods or cell phones when it was appropriate to do so, we'd probably have less of a justification for these sorts of bans.

The distraction created in an environment like this often makes it more efficient to just put an outright ban on iPods entirely and save the teachers the extra classroom management burden.
jhollington at 2007-11-15 15:15:08 >
# 5 Re: Any precedents for iPods in class?
I'm with jhollington on this one. There's no reason for you to use your iPod during school. If you can't concentrate without listening to music, you need to work on that.
MellowTone41 at 2007-11-15 15:16:18 >
# 6 Re: Any precedents for iPods in class?
i cant work without music...i get so distracted
Eric Lewis at 2007-11-15 15:17:09 >
# 7 Re: Any precedents for iPods in class?
Personally, having and listening to my ipod in class helps me focus and concentrate. My school like many others being headed my narrowminded dip####s finds it necesary to completely ban all mp3 players, even from personal study in the library. Im trying to write a report/letter to the principal detailing why they should be allowed and im looking for any precedents or tests conducted somewhere that would support my theory that ipods are a helpful tool in the classroom, thanks. edit*should have placed in sub-forum, woops*

if you're only talking about personal study time, then that's better than in a class, but most will just sit there nodding away at their music than actual study. if hoards of people have ipods between classes then no doubt some will be listening in class - they'll no doubt be serving me in mcdonalds when they leave.

it's actually more to do with safety than that, if there's announcements, fire drills... & they make the rules, you don't - this is something to be accepted if you aspire to be working somewhere that has a chain of command (above you, no doubt) even at the fast food place ;)
misper666 at 2007-11-15 15:18:12 >
# 8 Re: Any precedents for iPods in class?
This is my first year going into High school. I know that last yeah the High school I'm going to allowed iPod, mp3 players etc during personal work time(including in class). I've been told that some teachers wouldn't even care/do anything if you say..watched a movie in class, but if you started to do poor in school she would say something to you about it but take no action against it. I agree with having mp3 players/iPods in school on your own time/personal work time but not when the teacher is giving a lecture.
Feds at 2007-11-15 15:19:16 >
# 9 Re: Any precedents for iPods in class?
I am a teacher. The last western school I worked at did not ban mp3 players outright, but allowed teachers to set their own rules. These were mine...

1) no iPods in the workshop. Just too much stuff going on there.

2) You must ask my permission before using them, and obey that. If you did not I would take it, hand it to the office, and your parent/guardian would have to come and get it.

3) If I did allow it these rules applied:

a) If I am talking and you still have either earbud in, that was the end of your chance, so you had to have the volume low enough to hear me start talking and yank them out as soon as I did.

b) I was allowed to listen to your music. If I said it was too loud, then you had to turn it down. If this happened twice, you had to turn it off.

c) If any others around you could hear your earbuds it was too loud.

d) You must remove your earbuds before talking.

I found this invaluable, as it kept the talkers quiet, either they or their friends had music. I recommended during parent teacher interviews that some parents buy one for their talkative kids.

It only worked for some classes though. It did not work in discussion classes. As I alluded to above, this was not workable for workshop classes, due to safety reasons.

However, much of my teaching was math. I did little on the board, preferring to help kids one on one, letting the fast ones go at their own pace, and spending most of my time helping the slower ones. Anything that cut down on their non-work related interaction with others, while in class, increased their learning.

I even managed to convert a few to Rockbox :)

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mnhnhyouh at 2007-11-15 15:20:12 >
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