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Will you buy the new iPhone?

As cool as the new iPhone looks...I think the price points suck! Who is going to pay $500 to $600 for a new phone? Is Cingular going to offer any kind of rebate with a 2 year agreement. Yes...I would like to get my hands on the new iPhone but I don't want to spend over $200.

P.S. If the iPhone has WiFi, then why sign up for Cingular when you can make free phone calls over the internet?
[408 byte] By [kenkim] at [2007-11-11 15:30:43]
# 1 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Where is the NO I will not every buy that phone option?
jdawson at 2007-11-15 13:00:29 >
# 2 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Poll fixed (it was a multiple-choice poll, and did not have a "No" option)

I do not believe the iPhone will include VoIP WiFi capabilities (for voice)... The WiFi is only for the Internet access portions of the device, so I don't expect this to be a factor.

The iPhone is a premium device, in the same category as a Palm Treo, Moto Q, or Blackberry. It is certainly not intended to be a sub-$200 device like most of the normal basic cell phones.
jhollington at 2007-11-15 13:01:29 >
# 3 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Theres an "No, I have no interest in the iPhone" option to select. But come on, would'nt you get this if it were $200 or less?
podster1 at 2007-11-15 13:02:35 >
# 4 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Poll fixed (it was a multiple-choice poll, and did not have a "No" option)

I do not believe the iPhone will include VoIP WiFi capabilities (for voice)... The WiFi is only for the Internet access portions of the device, so I don't expect this to be a factor.

The iPhone is a premium device, in the same category as a Palm Treo, Moto Q, or Blackberry. It is certainly not intended to be a sub-$200 device like most of the normal basic cell phones.

That's what Jobs wants you to believe. Imagine the surprise when you will try to install new apps (not "gadgets" real productivity apps) or sync with your corporate Exchange server. And I don't even want to mention the rising anger waiting for the pics and links to load in the browser using EDGE.

The fact is, this is pimped up 2G phone and not premium Smart phone.
haloguy628 at 2007-11-15 13:03:29 >
# 5 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
will ichat be installed (or any IM client for that matter)?
hollywood2005 at 2007-11-15 13:04:28 >
# 6 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Wait for the surprise from Cingular when you get your next wireless phonebill. The cost of data plans unless paid for by work are pretty steep.
Eragon at 2007-11-15 13:05:38 >
# 7 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I'll get one. But after they are on the market for a little while.
skateboarderx24 at 2007-11-15 13:06:31 >
# 8 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
The form factor on the iPhone will be a large determinant of its eventual success or failure. I recently got rid of my pocket pc phone because i got tired of its weight, the need for two handed operation, the lack of a truly effective case, poor speaker phone, and heavy reliance on sync with my desktop. The novelty of having such a device simply wore off. :shake:
Eragon at 2007-11-15 13:07:34 >
# 9 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I'll be ditching my treo 700w for it.
littlewaywelt at 2007-11-15 13:08:42 >
# 10 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I have 2- 5th Gen 30Gig Video, 2-2 Gig Nanos and a shuffle and I have been waiting for the widescreen ipod since last June. What a disappointment to learn what the upgrade was. I WILL NOT BUY THAT IPhone!! I am in Canada and won't be able to access the Cingular network from here, so basically all of the phone and browsing features will be useless to me. Where is the normal Video widescreen Ipod? I have a phone with browsing capablities, that I dont use, why would I want a Ipod with it. Boo, Apple, this is a real let down for me.
spaceman1701 at 2007-11-15 13:09:34 >
# 11 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
ANd what the hell is with the storage size. WHeres the 80G?
spaceman1701 at 2007-11-15 13:10:43 >
# 12 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Again, this is why this is not an iPod... It's an iPhone. It's basically an entry into a smartphone-style space (there's room for interpretation as to what constitutes a "smartphone", but this basically fits in general terms), and happens to have iPod capabilities.

People have had no problem buying Sony Walkman phones, RAZR V3i's, and even Palm Treos and using them as MP3 players, despite the amount of memory in these devices being significantly more limited than the iPhone is going to offer. If you look at it from that particular viewpoint, it's not such a big deal.

I'm sure there will be a new iPod by next fall, likely with even greater capacity than 80Gb and probably some of the iPhone's design incorporated into it. This is most definitely not the next iPod -- it's an entirely different class of device.
jhollington at 2007-11-15 13:11:41 >
# 13 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I'd totally buy it if offered through t mobile.

I want it so badly. It's almost an addiction to wanna get one. I hope some how they can unlock it to other carriers.
ipodphoto30 at 2007-11-15 13:12:37 >
# 14 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
As much as the iPhone looks.. interesting, I won't be buying it. I'm perfectly happy with my nano and cell phone, and won't be buying anything different unless they break. Even then, I'm not going to spend $500 for something like that. I barely ever use my phone so.. spending that much money on something that I will more than likely only use for the music and sometimes the int. (when I could just as easily get a labtop with a bigger screen to read things on) is not something I will be doing.

That and the fact that I wouldn't have enough money to spend on something like this.

You'd think the screen would get all fingerprint-y, as well. I haven't read up much on the iPhone, though, so if there is something that prevents fingerprints getting on the screen, sorry that I missed it.

I am assuming they would have one of those touch-screen pointers along with it, however.
MissCasey at 2007-11-15 13:13:42 >
# 15 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Nope. I'd love to see it but I just recieved a Sprint Samsung A640 for Christmas. I already have iPods anyway...
Nader172 at 2007-11-15 13:14:46 >
# 16 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Actually, the screen is surprisingly resilient.... It doesn't smudge or fingerprint nearly as much as you'd expect, although obviously it's not completely fingerprint-proof.

It also does not include a stylus. Apple considers that something of a selling point, and as far as the idea that this should be very usable without a stylus, it really is quite an appealing design.
jhollington at 2007-11-15 13:15:39 >
# 17 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Personally, all I use my phone for is calls. I've tried to use it as an MP3 player, among other things, but just can't do it. I use my phone for calls, my camera for photos, and my mp3 player for playing mp3's. Unless the price comes down, and there is compelling reason to switch, I won't be purchasing one any time soon.
moe_4eva at 2007-11-15 13:16:44 >
# 18 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
No, I won't be buying an iPhone. In a flash, however, I would buy an iPod with the same features except swap the phone parts for a 80GB drive, better battery ( removable please ) and wireless ethernet synchronization with my iTunes.

Paul
melor at 2007-11-15 13:17:48 >
# 19 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I want to buy it sim-free and unlocked...
pdxa4 at 2007-11-15 13:18:46 >
# 20 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I would, if I could use it in my car like my current iPod (charge and play music), but also have access to the interface(which I can't do now). That way, I(or my navigator ;-)) can still use Google maps, check email and answer phone calls while I listen to tunes through my stereo. This would also alleviate some of the potential battery issues.
geohsia at 2007-11-15 13:19:47 >
# 21 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
ASAP copping one as soon as Jobs releases thicker iPhone 100GB HD model.

RCA output iLuv-style bottom pack would be official too.
alpha80 at 2007-11-15 13:20:54 >
# 22 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
ASAP copping one as soon as Jobs releases thicker iPhone 100GB HD model.

You are going to be waiting a long time then.
ebrunn at 2007-11-15 13:21:52 >
# 23 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I'll probably buy it if it's AIM compatible. If it's not I think that would be the breaking/selling point for me. The internet's all fine and dandy but not having AIM would definitely suck. It's the thing I use the computer for the most. I mean, I go on forums and myspace and facebook and all that junk but AIM is really my number one priority. If they don't have it I'd totally be alright with just getting a sidekick or something. I have the SLVR and I'm due for a new phone sometime soon anyways. I HATE that the gigs are so small but whatever, there's no use complaining. We KNOW it's not a lot. I have 20 gigs and I hate rotating music say if I borrow my father's nano (my iPod just broke.) But I guess I'd be okay with an iPod and an iPhone. It'd be better if it were two in one, but hey whatever. It'll happen soon.
glamorouss at 2007-11-15 13:22:53 >
# 24 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
As much as the iPhone looks.. interesting, I won't be buying it. I'm perfectly happy with my nano and cell phone, and won't be buying anything different unless they break. Even then, I'm not going to spend $500 for something like that. I barely ever use my phone so.. spending that much money on something that I will more than likely only use for the music and sometimes the int. (when I could just as easily get a labtop with a bigger screen to read things on) is not something I will be doing.

That and the fact that I wouldn't have enough money to spend on something like this.

You'd think the screen would get all fingerprint-y, as well. I haven't read up much on the iPhone, though, so if there is something that prevents fingerprints getting on the screen, sorry that I missed it.

I am assuming they would have one of those touch-screen pointers along with it, however.

Use a stylus, to prevent fingerprints.

And to the dude above abit, ok so it isnt an Ipod, its a next gen smartphone. Where's the Ipod only version?
spaceman1701 at 2007-11-15 13:23:55 >
# 25 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
No...

1. Cingular...they are the devil and I have no interest in going back...When a national comercial advertises free mobile to mobile for "all" customers but then customer services says "no" you must upgrade your package to over twice your current plan payment to be eligable I told them to go back to the hell they came from...not to mention frequent outages...crazy billing (my card was charged 4 times one month which took forever to un do) and hour or more waits for customer service...HELL NO...never again

2. Price...sure I can afford 600 dollars...but thats more than my car payment...or the rent on my first apartment...10 years ago...I just think of 100 things I would rather own at that price point other than a phone...it makes the ps3 look reasonable which is insane

3. small size hard drives...what the point of full screen if you can fill it with movies?

4. I have a sidekick...its pretty nifty in its own right...it doesnt have video, but other than that it rocks...tmobile is great...it works everywhere...my plan is affordable...unlimited data is 20 a month...the internet is quick and it has the qwerty keyboard...
owenstar at 2007-11-15 13:24:49 >
# 26 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I definatly want it, bt i dont know if i can affod that. I am trying my darndest to save up every penny possible, but it is hard when i have 2 basketball games a week i have to go to, and track season is around that corner which is very expensive, and i only get like 20 bucks a week. My birthday is in June though, and I am gonna save up as much as possible until then and hopefully, with the help of my parents, I will be able to get it. I want it......
joeylang at 2007-11-15 13:25:49 >
# 27 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
As much as the iPhone looks.. interesting, I won't be buying it. I'm perfectly happy with my nano and cell phone, and won't be buying anything different unless they break. Even then, I'm not going to spend $500 for something like that. I barely ever use my phone so.. spending that much money on something that I will more than likely only use for the music and sometimes the int. (when I could just as easily get a labtop with a bigger screen to read things on) is not something I will be doing.

That and the fact that I wouldn't have enough money to spend on something like this.

You'd think the screen would get all fingerprint-y, as well. I haven't read up much on the iPhone, though, so if there is something that prevents fingerprints getting on the screen, sorry that I missed it.

I am assuming they would have one of those touch-screen pointers along with it, however.

You took the words right out of my mouth
mrdantownsend at 2007-11-15 13:26:54 >
# 28 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
i have no interest in such a device not in the first revision anyway, we all know apple has issues with first releases of any product.
toothpaste at 2007-11-15 13:28:00 >
# 29 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I won't buy the iPhone until it has 80gbs flash, is available on something other than cingular (prepaid preferably) and has a decent price
Glorybox3737 at 2007-11-15 13:28:55 >
# 30 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I want to buy it sim-free and unlocked...

that would be very expensive then

imo all mobiles are overpriced sim free, this is partly to fund giving them free to contract plans. this is all down to the evil networks trying to monopolise & tie people down.

imo the iphone is great but all the networks will no doubt kill many peoples ability to get one without shelling out for sim free. even if you do get sim free, many networks will probably diasable certain functions like they do today - instant messaging, streaming, file sh**ing etc etc... some even block ordinary phones with GPRS using the internet by allowing them only WAP over GPRS. it's a crying shame.

ipods are expensive but you don't have much restriction using them, this is why they have still sold extremely well... iphone will also be expensive AND probably have usage restrictions applied by the networks - will be interesting to see how well it does.

god i hate mobile networks sometimes for not allowing the full use of devices sold by them - i even think they are killing this industry, as what the people want, is not necesarily what they get!
misper666 at 2007-11-15 13:29:54 >
# 31 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Short answer: no.
Long answer: nnnnnoooooooooooo...

Seriously though, a phone that costs $500-600 on top of a 2-year contract?
I only took my current phone on an 18 month contract because I'm getting cashback that makes it free for the first 9 months and the phone came free as a part of that too.

Also, what sort of rip-off price is it going to be sold for in the UK?
I mean, $500-600 is ~250-300 but in never works like that. Things are never the same price as they are in the US< they're always more expensive, so how much are we going to be talking?
Step666 at 2007-11-15 13:30:54 >
# 32 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I won't buy the iPhone because I don't talk on the phone much.
Btw, I swear jHollington either works for Steve Jobs or knows A LOT about Apple.
kylo4 at 2007-11-15 13:31:57 >
# 33 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I have a 60gig 5g ipod and Sanyo M1 and i dont even use the M1 MP3 player...Needless to say i wont be going to cingular just for the IPhone.

I see this phone being hot on it intial rollout but after that Splat, I dont see it even making it to X-mas 07.
lennyj17 at 2007-11-15 13:32:58 >
# 34 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I definitely want to buy something LIKE the iPhone, which strikes me as the prototype of an irresistible new Apple product category.

One thing that strikes me about the iPhone is that it's really a COMPUTER. I mean, it runs a real version of OSX, which is built on a Unix kernel, so there is no theoretical limit to the kind of functions it could perform. For me personally, the internet connectivity functions might be more useful than the cell-phone capability (I don't even own a cell phone right now), so I think I will be waiting for the product line to evolve a little further in the PDA direction.

I would LOVE to have a pocket-sized MacBook that I could use as a tiny portable office, with iChat-like conference capabilities, web-browsing, and widgets to function like the regular OSX TextEdit, iCal, and Address Book. And of course all the features of a regular iPod.

I'd also like to see a stylus and handwriting recognition like the "Rosetta" technology developed for the Newton. None of this seems like much of a stretch, given the starter set of features built in to the 1st-gen iPhone, and the fact that this little thing is basically a computer running OSX.
wyneken at 2007-11-15 13:34:02 >
# 35 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I'm not sure what I am going to do yet....If I start saving now, I may get. However, I do not want to leave T-mobile just for a phone. Being it's on Ging, which is GSM...Maybe after a while I can buy an unlocked one and use on T-Mobile.
Gix1k at 2007-11-15 13:34:59 >
# 36 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Being an incurable smartphone addict, I was pretty keen to see the iPhone, but now I'm unlikely to buy one for many reasons, not the least of which is the Apple (read: Jobs) Mentality.

After ditching my Blackberry and its overpriced data plan, I've been using my Nokia E61 for several months, and am quite impressed. It has more crap on it than the iPhone ever will-- "open-source" wifi (so you CAN use voip as well as free internet/email access), 24-bit color screen, great speakerphone, built-in navigation, built-in Office suite, unlimited mini-SD capacity, great audio & video playback, and all kinds of other features. Plus, Nokia openly encourages 3rd-party application development so there exists already a whole raft of USEFUL applications for this platform (Symbian S60 Series 3).

Not sure why but I maintain a minimal data plan nonetheless but because it's non-proprietary (i.e. not Blackberry) it only costs me $25/mo here in Canada, and I may even dump that.

This phone does everything I need and then some, so I have gotten over my gotthaveit-itis from when I first saw the iPhone. It's cute, but I resent the proprietary approach of its architecture and certainly won't cough up $500 for a device that is, for all intents and purposes, nearly obsolete already.

Don't mind me, just my .02!

Carry on
AHA at 2007-11-15 13:36:00 >
# 37 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
The iPhone could be very worthwhile, but I'd be loathe to commit to anything until I saw what changes Apple makes by the June launch. The software will be expanded and possibly work a bit differently. The price could also be less.
Commodus at 2007-11-15 13:37:03 >
# 38 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
No, I probably won't be buying one. I already have a Blackberry and iPhone isn't a big enough step forward from that to make it compelling to me. Unless and until it truly becomes an iPod/phone I'll stick with the two devices I already have.
Surf Monkey at 2007-11-15 13:38:06 >
# 39 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Approximately 22% of respondents are going to buy the iPhone regardless of the disadvantages. However, a total of about 56% of respondents would like to buy it but most of them have specified certain conditions.

What struck me: about four times as many respondents who will buy it have chosen the 8GB version over the 4GB version. I guess the extra $100 is worth it to those who probably want to store video as well as audio.
Pikemann_Urge at 2007-11-15 13:39:02 >
# 40 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Well, in for a penny, as they say... :)

Realistically, the iPhone is not priced as any kind of an economy product, so those who are actually willing to go out and buy one probably don't care too much about the extra $100 for the increased capacity compared to what they're already spending on the device in the first place.
jhollington at 2007-11-15 13:40:09 >
# 41 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Price must come down at least $100 for me to consider, and ideally larger HDD sizes and better battery life would also be included. 5 hours is just.too.short.
mongoos150 at 2007-11-15 13:41:14 >
# 42 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I would consider getting it, but most of my qualms lie with cingular. Since my first cell phone about 6 years ago (which was orginally my parents at the time and got passed down to me), my cell phone reception has gotten worse with each model I have upgraded to. And their customer service sucks. At least it has in my area. I always dread having to go to the store and talk to them about my cell phone. They usually can't help me, and tell me I should be able to get reception in areas that I don't. Having a phone I could put a good chunk of my favorite music on would be nice, but I do have a 60g photo ipod that I love and still have room on, so we'll see what happens when my current plan runs out.
blondolphn at 2007-11-15 13:42:07 >
# 43 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Psh, no I don't need it. I got a phone and an iPod so there isn't a need to buy this thing.
Nader172 at 2007-11-15 13:43:12 >
# 44 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Will be buying the 8gb iPhone once it gets released into Canada. Or I may just drive down to teh states buy one and have it unlocked in Canada.
GinoLicious at 2007-11-15 13:44:17 >
# 45 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Good luck unlocking iPhone. Counting on that may lead to disappointment.
Surf Monkey at 2007-11-15 13:45:17 >
# 46 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
i personally think the iPhone is one of the best things i have ever seen. it has amazing features and is is almost perfect, the only thing missing is maybe the capability to record video but im sure the will be added in the 2g iPhone. i wish it would already be on sale now but i can wait cause it comes out in june and that just happens to be when my contract ends so i dont have to wait or pay an early termination fee, i already have cingular, and that is when my birthday is so i am getting it for basically free (with a little extra work around the house for my parents) so it all works out prefectly for me :D
monkeysrock0622 at 2007-11-15 13:46:18 >
# 47 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
i am , 8 GB :)
zerock at 2007-11-15 13:47:15 >
# 48 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I'd love to buy it... But I've got no job... :(
Miki01 at 2007-11-15 13:48:18 >
# 49 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I've got a phone, a nice Motorolla W22o. its just a phone and i like the way it is. do apple need to turne verything in a multimedia machine, listening to music, videos and internet and phone does not go together, expensive because phones usually have small memories. ipod is ok, but not the iphone.
iDamon at 2007-11-15 13:49:19 >
# 50 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
$600 for a mere 8gb capacity? battery life will probably suck. I'd rather purchase 2 8GB nanos or 1 80GB Video and 1 30GB Video than a phone that attempts to be media everything..it just doesn't go together.
paranoidxe at 2007-11-15 13:50:19 >
# 51 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I want one, I simply don't have the money to afford it. I was going to just go for it and buy it anyways when it came out, but then I realized that I'm far more attracted to the iPod portion of it more than anything else. I can buy a PSP to browse the web... and play games and play mp3s. The 8 gigs isn't a problem with me: most average joes who purchase the phone after being persuaded by a rep will probably think 8 gigs is a lot of space. Look at how well the nano sells: that just about says it all.

So the money, along with the cost of enabling fucntions (it may be next to nothing, or a bill with decent minutes and data access could run well above $100 dollars per month) have me changing my mind. I'll probably just wait for the rumored video iPod and hope it has similar functionality as the iPod portion of the iPhone.
Germansuplex at 2007-11-15 13:51:21 >
# 52 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I still want one......
joeylang at 2007-11-15 13:52:18 >
# 53 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Yes, I'm getting the 16 GB iPhone for $599 :) Which means I must wait a bit--and thus, I might gain 3G support into the bargain.

If the data plans are too pricey, I'll just get voice--and do my mail checking by WiFi at hotspots.
nagromme at 2007-11-15 13:53:26 >
# 54 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I'm getting the 8GB, but it really depends on the fine print. I don't mind Cingular (I prefer Cingular to the GSM alternative of T-Mobile, and I refuse to get CDMA), but I don't want to have to get a 2-year contract for the phone (especially since my current contract will be in its 18th month by June), I just want to be able to pop in my current SIM card.
butterfly0fdoom at 2007-11-15 13:54:17 >
# 55 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I will be unlikely to buy the iPhone because I have a two year contract to Verizon for my existing phone. Why would I want to pay penalties in order to change carriers?

In addition, while I love the idea of a widescreen iPod, what good is it with a mere 8GB of memory? I want a true iPod, with at least an 80GB hard drive, on which I can watch the movies and TV shows I regularly download from iTunes.

I really believe that the iPhone will fall flat because too many of us are locked into our current carriers for some period of time.
mdibella at 2007-11-15 13:55:25 >
# 56 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Why would I want to pay penalties in order to change carriers?
'Cuz this is not ANY phone. It's unlike anything anybody had b4r, once yr friend has it and show how sexy it's (by how it works) you will change your tune.

And these days u don't pay the whole penalty do you? I believe new law says u pay the remaining of contract, not the whole shebang (unconfirmed).

In addition, while I love the idea of a widescreen iPod, what good is it with a mere 8GB of memory? I want a true iPod, with at least an 80GB hard drive, on which I can watch the movies and TV shows I regularly download from iTunes.
I am wif u there, that's why I let u ginnie pigs work out the bugs first, I wait version II. :D

I really believe that the iPhone will fall flat because too many of us are locked into our current carriers for some period of time.
See 1st paragraph response.
bobb-mini at 2007-11-15 13:56:28 >
# 57 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
ummmm I am 57, a little old for peer pressure. I like my new razr phone, but then I am not one of those folks who's always glued to the phone, I just use it as a convenience.

I also am curious about another problem. I am sure a lot of folks are like me, they fly a fair amount and use their iPods on planes. When the plane takes off, there is always an announcement to turn OFF cell phones. So combining the two devices makes one of them inaccessible in the air, when it would otherwise be fine to use.

Admittedly I am a bit old fashioned, but it just seems to me that many companies are trying to combine devices that don't necessarily belong together. I could never figure out why my new phone had to have a CAMERA! And it has an mp3 player which I've never used.

I also never bought one of those toasters that cook hot dogs...
mdibella at 2007-11-15 13:57:28 >
# 58 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Well, for somebody who is carrying an iPod and a phone anyway, and might want the devices converged, it might make some sense, but I still see the iPod features as mostly secondary to the phone and Internet features.

As for use on planes, most smartphone devices (and even devices like the RAZR) now have an "Airplane Mode" or an "Offline Mode" that basically turns off all transmit/receive functions while still allowing the other features of the phone to be used. I think it's a given that the iPhone will have this.

There was a time when flight attendants were much more nervous about such issues... I remember trying to explain to one of them a few years ago that my iPod was not a cell phone and therefore shouldn't be an issue... The young lady in question had to check with the Captain before she'd let me actually use it in flight. These days, however, the proliferation of Blackberries and other smart phones mean that most of them pretty clearly understand that these devices are not an issue as long as the wireless functions are turned off (in fact, the Air Canada pre-flight briefing video even uses an iPod as an example of a device that can be used in flight).
jhollington at 2007-11-15 13:58:22 >
# 59 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
ummmm I am 57, a little old for peer pressure. I like my new razr phone, but then I am not one of those folks who's always glued to the phone
Oh, well yeah, then yr not in the iPhone's primary market group.

Combining - yeah, the implied rational is, so one doesn't have to carry multiple devices. This sounds good until reality sets in. Again, the target market. You and I own real cameras, the teens don't and if they are able to peek-snap their friends, they'll gobble it up.

I WANTED a camera in my phone, always wondered if I happened in an auto accident (knock wood, it's been 15 yrs), a camera would come in handy for documentation. Or the other day, I was late for work, so I attempted to snapshot the freeway signs that said "Accident ahead - blah - blah), only to find that my &%^$ cell-cam has unacceptable performance (can't make out dark sign in bright day light). So yer right, half of these features are for teens to shed their $. Dunn get me started about trying to combine my iPod and cell into one, gave up.

BUT if u do use an MP3 player, and u DO get online wif your cell alot, or u like to write quick notes, the iPhone may bring that seamless experience Apple is famous for. Any company, hey, I'm wif ya 100%. Apple, like their Ads says, is DIFFERENT.
bobb-mini at 2007-11-15 13:59:26 >
# 60 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
U seen the newly released Razr2 yet?

Nothing revolutionary, just the usual, bigger screen, more pixels, thinner blah-blah, and not even *that* aesthetically pleasing to me, and yet people over the phone forums are going ga-ga over it and are ready to ditch their newly purchased phones for the newest and greatest.

That's the young market for ya, ez-sell, no wonder....
bobb-mini at 2007-11-15 14:00:27 >
# 61 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Well, in my experience, devices that combine too much functionality end up doing NONE of it very well...as you discovered with your cell phone camera. I have used my cell-cam exactly once, to take a snap of my cat which I use as wallpaper for the phone itself.

The iPhone clearly already has problems in that area. Why on earth market something with a fancy widescreen video and at the same time limit it to 8 gigs? Even a company like Sony, with its paranoia regarding copy protection, markets devices that accommodate memory cards (albeit in a proprietary format).

When Apple combines the nice widescreen display with the existing iPod's abilities to store and play back audio and video in many formats, I'll be there with checkbook in hand to buy it. I already own several iPods (4? 5? can't remember for sure), I am a true 'early adopter geek', but I can not think of a good reason to buy an iPhone.
mdibella at 2007-11-15 14:01:26 >
# 62 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
A valid concern of combining phone+multimedia player is, battery. Running out of juice when u have to make a call seems unacceptable. iPhone1 testing ground me thinks.
bobb-mini at 2007-11-15 14:02:29 >
# 63 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
U seen the newly released Razr2 yet?

Nothing revolutionary, just the usual, bigger screen, more pixels, thinner blah-blah, and not even *that* aesthetically pleasing to me, and yet people over the phone forums are going ga-ga over it and are ready to ditch their newly purchased phones for the newest and greatest.

That's the young market for ya, ez-sell, no wonder....

um my new phone is a KRZR and I like it a lot. But mostly the phone is used for my husband to call me and say things like 'When are you coming home? I'm hungry! What's for dinner?' hee hee
mdibella at 2007-11-15 14:03:33 >
# 64 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Battery life is indeed likely to be an issue. Watching videos on an iPod just eats up the battery...mind you there are many battery packs available, both rechargeable ones and ones that take AA or AAA batteries. I have several, and if I am watching videos on it, I am likely pretty stationary...adding a clunky battery pack to the iPod is not a big deal.

Not sure I'd want to do that with a cell phone though.
mdibella at 2007-11-15 14:04:32 >
# 65 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Not sure I'd want to do that with a cell phone though.
Precisely.

Unless Apple comes up with something nobody else has thought of, they GOTTA make the iPhone's battery user-replaceable. Jobs doesn't like that 'cuz it mars the look of an otherwise thin & streamline unit (the man likes thin). But user-replaceable batt, like the everybody else's, u carry a second batt wif u. First one runs out, away from AC, remove batt#1, slap on batt#2 and keep yaping.
bobb-mini at 2007-11-15 14:05:29 >
# 66 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Pretty sure this hasn't been posted here yet... Was just reading an ArsTechnica article (http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/05/17/study-half-of-ipod-owners-open-to-iphone-as-next-mobile-phone) about a survey done in France, Germany, Spain, Italy and UK polling 2,000 iPod users about their likelihood of buying an iPhone. The (surprising) results -- 50% said, "Yeah, sure, why not?"
S2_Mac at 2007-11-15 14:06:37 >
# 67 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I still predict (2nd time now), the streamlined iPhone II (no smart features) just a regular phone+iPod, will sell like hotcakes like the intro of the iPod-mini following the full size iPod. Assuming the iPhone1 doesn't run into some serious unexpected boo-boos.
bobb-mini at 2007-11-15 14:07:30 >
# 68 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
No Because the Price from over 1000$ (Phone&Plan for two years) is to high. I hope that not buy so many people the Iphone with a Plan and start a boycott against this impudently sale strategy.
Snakes at 2007-11-15 14:08:35 >
# 69 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Any phone and plan is over 1000 dollars for two years. You care gonna have to pay for the plan regardless of if you have a free phone of an iphone, and the iphone plans are not gonna be premium because you have an iphone, you are gonna get to choose fromt he same plans as everyone else. This is a stupid arguement that a lot fo peoplea re making.
joeylang at 2007-11-15 14:09:42 >
# 70 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
No here in gemany we pay not so much for a plan ;)
Snakes at 2007-11-15 14:10:33 >
# 71 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
start a boycott against this impudently sale strategy.
Ahhh... u said the magic word, BOYCOTT. That means u still want it!

Where there is want, there is demand, demand=sales. Resistance is futile, u cannot escape the evil capitalists. Woooohhaahhhhaa!
bobb-mini at 2007-11-15 14:11:37 >
# 72 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
interesting to note that as of this post 30% of posters chose "I have no interest in the iphone". I totally would have thought on these forums the majority would be at least waiting for the price to come down. iphone 1.0 will fail I think, and iphone 2.0 when it comes out will be leaps and bounds better. It's the Apple way after all.
deftdrummer1 at 2007-11-15 14:12:40 >
# 73 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
No Because the Price from over 1000$ (Phone&Plan for two years) is to high. I hope that not buy so many people the Iphone with a Plan and start a boycott against this impudently sale strategy.
And where in heck do you think you are gonna get the phone and 2 years of voice/data/txt for $1000? 24 months of a fairly cheapo plan will costs you $2000, add the phone and you're up to $2500. A plan with, say, 600 minutes will end up costing you more like $3000 for 2 years including the phone. I have Tmobile with 300 minutes, 400 txt, and unlimited data ($20 half the price of VZN, I think ATT is 30). Costs me $75 with tax. Add 'em up!
TheBigNewt at 2007-11-15 14:13:45 >
# 74 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
And where in heck do you think you are gonna get the phone and 2 years of voice/data/txt for $1000? 24 months of a fairly cheapo plan will costs you $2000, add the phone and you're up to $2500. A plan with, say, 600 minutes will end up costing you more like $3000 for 2 years including the phone. I have Tmobile with 300 minutes, 400 txt, and unlimited data ($20 half the price of VZN, I think ATT is 30). Costs me $75 with tax. Add 'em up!

How about not? whats with all the people who insist on being an IT industry analyst? Since when does the consumer factor in 2 years of service, premium phone, monthly costs, rebate factors, etc? I have a hard time with everyone justifying every last penny this stupid iphone will cost.

Whatever happened to the good old fashion rule of thumb that works for most economically sound individuals:
$600 for phone = too much
x>$50 service plan = too much
trying to justify why the iphone is so worth it before it even has been released = too much
deftdrummer1 at 2007-11-15 14:14:46 >
# 75 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
How about not? whats with all the people who insist on being an IT industry analyst? Since when does the consumer factor in 2 years of service, premium phone, monthly costs, rebate factors, etc? I have a hard time with everyone justifying every last penny this stupid iphone will cost.

Whatever happened to the good old fashion rule of thumb that works for most economically sound individuals:
$600 for phone = too much
x>$50 service plan = too much
trying to justify why the iphone is so worth it before it even has been released = too much

When you look at most phones which the iPhone would be in competition with, such as the LG Prada, then the iPhone is competitive. So in that sense the iPhone can hardly be called overpriced. Since when are new products ever cheap anyway? The first iPods were far from cheap (400 for my first one), 2.5 generations later and they are half that price.

Moreover, I know people who are willing to pay ridiculous amounts of money in the first place then each month to get the latest phones. These people are likely to save it from a pre-mature death and enable Apple to go on and create future generations at more reasonable prices.
slashjunior at 2007-11-15 14:15:44 >
# 76 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
well, some of the most basic phones have features that are not supported by some networks. that's the main problem, no point getting one if the d*m carriers won't let you use the feature(s) that you bought it for, or, other features, which in time may make you angry that you can't use them. for example, o2 in the uk have the best GSM signal but they will not let you use GPRS (or higher) internet... unless ofcourse, you go contract. they are blindly putting people into leisure or business categories when actually, everybody wants to use ALL the features of their handset regardless of plan. it makes me so angry.
misper666 at 2007-11-15 14:16:41 >
# 77 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
When you look at most phones which the iPhone would be in competition with, such as the LG Prada, then the iPhone is competitive. So in that sense the iPhone can hardly be called overpriced. Since when are new products ever cheap anyway? The first iPods were far from cheap (400 for my first one), 2.5 generations later and they are half that price.

Moreover, I know people who are willing to pay ridiculous amounts of money in the first place then each month to get the latest phones. These people are likely to save it from a pre-mature death and enable Apple to go on and create future generations at more reasonable prices.

The LG Prada came out after the iphone to compete with it not the other way around. I think we may come from two different worlds. Obviously, you are in the UK and I am here in the states. No offense, but if I do so recall you guys over there on the big island like to spend big money on cell phones. - Not so true in the U.S. Sadly, the iphone will not be introduced in the UK right away so it is a moot point. I don't care who you are, $600 for a phone and two years of service is quite ridiculous and only helps these companies such as Sony and Apple push the pricing envelope to see how far they can drive the price up even if to ungodly heights.
deftdrummer1 at 2007-11-15 14:17:48 >
# 78 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
For ppl that think the phone and plan are too much and wil impact sales. Get a clue.
Tens of thousands of ppl pony up $40/month for verizon unlimited data (granted thats evdo) and spent btwn $300-$600 for a Treo. ...and the treo has zero cool factor by comparison. It doesn't matter whether a Treo is 10x or 100x more capable.
littlewaywelt at 2007-11-15 14:18:45 >
# 79 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
The data plan should be no more than $20. Im sure more sk3 been sold so far than any newer model treo.
Jadakiss at 2007-11-15 14:19:46 >
# 80 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
This poll shows that for this audience (harder core ipod/Apple fans), the iPhone is nothing more than yet another product launch.

To reiterate:

1. virtual keyboards are never going to cut the mustard. If so, the treo would've had one by now.
2. edge is still no comparison to broadband via evdo or utms. Even Steve's reality distortion field can't spin this one.
3. nothing that is thin and small has great battery life. I simply do not see Apple coming out with anything with better battery life than the competition. The limiting factor is lithium ion tech, not engineering prowess.
4. If Walt Demossberg didn't have high praise for it, it may not appeal to the masses. He typically reviews from an average joe perspective, and he was neutral on it. This is not a good sign, b/c for all the hype that it's getting, real reviews are decidely lukewarm. At least it's not the Palm Foleo, which is truly a WTFrank product. It's already a legend before it's even been released. Smooth move releasing it during the same month as the iphone, btw.

Other than the sexiness factor, the iphone won't appeal once people actually start using it. Really. Sex sells, but b/c of a 30 day return policy, you can return it :>
pufftissue at 2007-11-15 14:20:53 >
# 81 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
To reiterate:
Sounds like u saying your opinion is based on other's posts here. We know what we said, we rather hear yours.
bobb-mini at 2007-11-15 14:21:49 >
# 82 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
1. virtual keyboards are never going to cut the mustard. If so, the treo would've had one by now.
Virtual keyboards won't likely appeal to the power-user who lives on their e-mail, but then again the device seems to be lacking in that respect in other areas as well, as compared to a device like the Blackberry.

Realistically, though, it's probably a huge step up for anybody who is used to sending SMS messages with a T9 predictive input phone keypad.

2. edge is still no comparison to broadband via evdo or utms. Even Steve's reality distortion field can't spin this one.
True, but in th North American market, this is all that's widely available anyway. Until the carriers catch up with the technology, this is a non-issue.

UTMS/HSDPA has not been widely rolled out in North American yet. A few major urban centres have it, but that's about the extent. EV-DO is a bit further ahead, but that's a CDMA-based technology, and therefore not available to the iPhone in its current design (and with its current partnership with Cingular/AT&T).

Obviously in a market like Europe, having merely EDGE speeds will seriously hamper the device. In North America, UTMS/HSDPA coverage is still elusive enough that most people aren't really going to care.
jhollington at 2007-11-15 14:22:54 >
# 83 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
i really need a new phone, so i'm getting one of these. I dont need 3G on my phone right now. Also i dont see the iPhone as a mass media storage device. I will just take the music, videos, and movies. i want to watch currently. No need to bring your entire library (besides my entire library doesnt even fit on an iPod lol)
zerock at 2007-11-15 14:23:52 >
# 84 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
WEll i onloy have 5.5 gigs on music videos and photos and podcasts so i am sellin my 30 gig ipod and getting an iphone.
joeylang at 2007-11-15 14:24:50 >
# 85 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
As cool as iPhone looks, I'm holding back to see what the other phone companies do. Nokia, Motorola, RIM and Palm are mature companies with a ton of experience building hand sets. They're not going to take iPhone lying down. Chances are good that a few short months from now each of these companies will have products that are as good or better than iPhone. Also, as an owner of every generation of the "flagship" iPod, I'm inclined to wait until iPhone 2.0 comes along before I buy into it. The launch version is bound to look pretty pathetic within a year or so.
Surf Monkey at 2007-11-15 14:25:57 >
# 86 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
As cool as iPhone looks, I'm holding back to see what the other phone companies do. Nokia, Motorola, RIM and Palm are mature companies with a ton of experience building hand sets. They're not going to take iPhone lying down. Chances are good that a few short months from now each of these companies will have products that are as good or better than iPhone. Also, as an owner of every generation of the "flagship" iPod, I'm inclined to wait until iPhone 2.0 comes along before I buy into it. The launch version is bound to look pretty pathetic within a year or so.

Yes, they have a lot of experience in building hand sets, but not advanced operating systems. I do not think that we will see mobile software as cool and easy-to-use as Apple's "OS X mobile".

And it is mainly because of the OS X i'm buying a iPhone.
Mathias at 2007-11-15 14:26:52 >
# 87 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
I do not think that we will see mobile software as cool and easy-to-use as Apple's "OS X mobile".

Why not? I don't see any reason why other companies can't come up with similar interfaces. Look how Microsoft emulates Mac OS X all the time. As much as I dislike Windows, the fact of the matter is that it's not that much different from Mac OS these days. I really think that it's only a matter of time before other companies launch similar hardware/software combinations to compete with iPhone, assuming that iPhone is a success.
Surf Monkey at 2007-11-15 14:27:55 >
# 88 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Why not? I don't see any reason why other companies can't come up with similar interfaces. Look how Microsoft emulates Mac OS X all the time. As much as I dislike Windows, the fact of the matter is that it's not that much different from Mac OS these days. I really think that it's only a matter of time before other companies launch similar hardware/software combinations to compete with iPhone, assuming that iPhone is a success.

Because a copy isn't as good as the real thing. We can see that in Vista.

And when the Leopard comes out - the average user can really see the difference again.

I can still see a difference between Tiger and Vista, and i think that Tiger is a whole lot better than Vista because it has:
1. No viruses
2. More stabile
3. A lot more easy to use
4. A lot more useful applications (iLife)

If a OS has to compete against "OS X mobile" it has to be original, and not just a copy.

And remember that iPhone has over 200 patents in it which also can make it hard to make a copy.
Mathias at 2007-11-15 14:28:54 >
# 89 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Because a copy isn't as good as the real thing. We can see that in Vista.

Vista isn't as good as Mac OS X. That's true. But from a functional viewpoint, it's virtually the same thing. There are no vast differences in the way you interact with Vista over the Mac OS.

And when the Leopard comes out - the average user can really see the difference again.

The Leopard preview looked pretty good but far from revolutionary. I wouldn't say it's a very great leap forward.

I can still see a difference between Tiger and Vista, and i think that Tiger is a whole lot better than Vista because it has:
1. No viruses

Not really true. There are fewer viruses on the Mac OS because of its smaller market share, not because it's invulnerable to them.

2. More stabile

Depends on the hardware.

3. A lot more easy to use

Purely your opinion.

4. A lot more useful applications (iLife)

You'll get some MAJOR push back on that statement from virtually any Windows user. Most of them see iLife as a fancy toy, not a hard core suite of applications.

If a OS has to compete against "OS X mobile" it has to be original, and not just a copy.

I didn't say copy. I said similar. Palm OS is similar to Windows Mobile. They're different but similar. Same with the iPhone interface. There's absolutely no reason why other companies can't follow Apple's lead and design something similarly useful. In fact, it's not a matter of IF they'll do it but WHEN. RIM and Palm aren't going to take iPhone lying down and they're not some rookie companies who can't compete with big bad Apple.

And remember that iPhone has over 200 patents in it which also can make it hard to make a copy.

That's not a very compelling argument. Patents are nice but there are always ways around them.

Look, I'm not here to defend Vista or any other mobile or not mobile OS. All I'm saying is that a number of very large companies are going to (already are actually) throw a ton of money and resources towards catching up to and surpassing iPhone. The idea that it will be forever the gold standard is silly.
Surf Monkey at 2007-11-15 14:30:01 >
# 90 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
Vista isn't as good as Mac OS X. That's true. But from a functional viewpoint, it's virtually the same thing. There are no vast differences in the way you interact with Vista over the Mac OS.

The Leopard preview looked pretty good but far from revolutionary. I wouldn't say it's a very great leap forward.

Not really true. There are fewer viruses on the Mac OS because of its smaller market share, not because it's invulnerable to them.

Depends on the hardware.

Purely your opinion.

You'll get some MAJOR push back on that statement from virtually any Windows user. Most of them see iLife as a fancy toy, not a hard core suite of applications.

I didn't say copy. I said similar. Palm OS is similar to Windows Mobile. They're different but similar. Same with the iPhone interface. There's absolutely no reason why other companies can't follow Apple's lead and design something similarly useful. In fact, it's not a matter of IF they'll do it but WHEN. RIM and Palm aren't going to take iPhone lying down and they're not some rookie companies who can't compete with big bad Apple.

That's not a very compelling argument. Patents are nice but there are always ways around them.

Look, I'm not here to defend Vista or any other mobile or not mobile OS. All I'm saying is that a number of very large companies are going to (already are actually) throw a ton of money and resources towards catching up to and surpassing iPhone. The idea that it will be forever the gold standard is silly.

You really like to discuss - me too :-)

Just like iPod was revolutionary, the iPhone's OS is also kind of revolutionary in terms of intuitiveness (don't know if thats a word).

And that's why new products, which is similar to the iPhone will bee seen as "iPhone killers" - and the iPhone will remain as the most original product, which is very important for it's success.

Function-wise i agree with you that there will bee similar OS's. But not in terms of easy-to-use interfaces. Apple is best at making things simple.
Mathias at 2007-11-15 14:31:02 >
# 91 Re: Will you buy the new iPhone?
After thinking of getting an LG Prada phone, I think I now see the great value the iPhone offers me being able to connect to my Mac & being very slim and sexy, plus I need a slim phone that can fit my overloaded pockets.

If it does come out on Vodafone in the UK, then hopefully it will be a done deal for me. :)
Doc Evils at 2007-11-15 14:31:56 >
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