iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
Today we saw the introduction of the iPhone. I won't be purchasing one because of three factors.
1)Carrier- I use Verizon
2)Price- To expensive for me at this time
3) (Most importantly) 8gb max?
What's up with that? I have an 80gb iPod. I have 27gb of music ALONE. plus the 40gb of videos. You are supposed to watch videos with only 8gb?
With that said, what is the likelyhood of a LARGER (perhaps 120gb) vPod being released later this year for people like me who need more storage. I would buy an iPhone if there was an increase in storage. I would gladly switch my carrier.
I'm impressed by the iPhone, but at the same time I'm dissapointed.
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emerys] at [2007-11-11 15:30:25]

# 1 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
Then again, if you're goin to up the capacity that much, you are going to expect a much heftier price tag. :( Im sad too, $499 for 4GB! Rip off!:mad:
# 2 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
It is surely inevitable. This product is intended for those who want an all-in-one device, not for someone who has 80GB worth of music/videos. It's not intended for such people. I still personally believe that now that the technology is coming out, once everything goes smoothly with the FCC and launch, there will be a slightly thicker touch-screen Video iPod later in the year. Thicker because of the hard-drive, possibly a 5 in screen and lots and lots of space. This will be the true 6G and will be out in time for the holidays. Makes perfect sense, has to be true ;)
# 3 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
Well this device isn't a iPod its a PDA essentially so of course its going to lack capacity that the iPod offers. Good god the price is insane and its with a 2 year contract! I can only imagine what a 100GB+ touchscreen iPod is going to cost.
# 4 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
I am disappointed I won't be able to get this phone because I too am a Verizon user. I had a horrible experience with Cingular (then known as AT&T, soon to be called AT&T again) and pledged never to patronize them ever again.
The price sounds about right for what's being offered, though it's certainly more than I would have been willing to pay.
For those who are miffed about the price, keep in mind:
- Slim phones and smart phones have always commanded a premium, whether it is the Treo, Blackjack or what not (Apple most likely has not allowed Cingular to subsidize the phone's price, which is a standard practice of wireless carriers to make phones cheap for consumers).
- The components, including processors, LCD screen and flash memory aren't cheap.
- Apple has always charged a premium for its products.
One can only assume Apple went with 4GB and 8GB flash was because they met a sweet spot on the supply/price side. Going with more flash memory was most likely cost prohibitive at this point in time.
Apple could have certainly boosted the amount of memory by using the hard drive included in the standard iPods, but that would have significantly increased the thickness of the unit, thereby robbing Apple of bragging rights for thinnest phone.
If the phone takes off, Apple could easily offer future versions with larger flash capacity or even make ones with hard drives -- true all-in-one devices.
cxc273 at 2007-11-15 13:03:36 >

# 5 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
eventually there will be a much larger flash version of the iPhone... it's inevitable. flash drives are always getting better, with more capacity, and they continue to get cheaper (as with ANY type of existing technology). the reason this phone is so expensive as of now, is b/c it is new. i remember when the first generation iPods came out... "A 4 GIG MP3 PLAYER?!?!... sure i'll pay $400 for it!" now, most of us scoff at the first generations, much less at a $400 ipod that ONLY holds 4 GB. anyhow, sit on this for a while, and you'll probably be able to get this at other carriers, as well as in larger storage capacities. apple SURELY wouldn't have contracted with cingular to more than a year of exclusivity with the sale of what is most likely to be one of the hottest items in Apple history (save for the iPod). just my two cents.
# 6 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
Well this device isn't a iPod its a PDA essentially so of course its going to lack capacity that the iPod offers. Good god the price is insane and its with a 2 year contract! I can only imagine what a 100GB+ touchscreen iPod is going to cost.
That's really comparing apples to oranges.. 100GB of flash and 100GB of HD space is totally different.
# 7 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
That's really comparing apples to oranges.. 100GB of flash and 100GB of HD space is totally different.For once, Josh is right. :D
Keep in mind, the 8GB Nano is the same price as the 30GB iPod...
bdb at 2007-11-15 13:06:34 >

# 8 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
For once, Josh is right. :D
Keep in mind, the 8GB Nano is the same price as the 30GB iPod...
Don't encourage him, bdb :D It'll go to his head.
For what the iPhone is, pending how much of the 8GB is taken up by other stuff, this could be just perfect for "casual" usage. 10GB would likly be a sweet spot I mean we all no more is better, but these days, less is still more. Less space means more planing on a persons part, and though a lot of use are spoiled by having the majority of our collections with us at once, how many of us actually listen to our entire library before we can get to a place to sync back up?
I'm more perturbed at the size of the Apple TV hard drive. A large hard drive that could hold all your video content and sync to your iPod separately would rock so you could split out video/music syncing would be great. Yeah, I know I just need to get a bigger computer hard drive.
Don't mean to change the subject. Back to complaining about the iPhone ;)
# 9 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
Indeed. A Range Rover or a Jaguar at the same price? I myself, took the 8GB when the time came because it had what I wanted and not what I didn't.
# 10 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
That's really comparing apples to oranges.. 100GB of flash and 100GB of HD space is totally different.
I was referring to 100GB HD space, its still going to be expensive.
# 11 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
Not really. 8GB of flash memory is exepensive, 100GB of HD is becoming cheaper by the day. I don't think they'd need to up the price that much if they threw in an HD instead of flash.
For once, Josh is right.
'bout damn time!
# 12 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
1)Carrier- I use Verizon
2)Price- To expensive for me at this time
This means that to get an iPhone, it will cost you $1,500, with the iPhone price and the cheapest priced mandatory 2 years service combined
# 13 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
I wouldn't worry,
Apple would be stupid to not release thicker iPhone models
with HD size scaled w/ price.
When the iPhone breaks 100+ GB for $800,
and has a video + stereo output option($200)
(maybe even a keyboard input),
able to be attached like the iLuv battery packs...
http://www.i-luv.com/iLuv/images/products/230/i604.jpg
...I'll retire the 3G 40GB...
...not until...
Hopefully this happens before '08.:D
# 14 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
BTW, that "Cover Flow" is too great to not also appeal to us music nuts by adding big storage as well.
w/o big storage, the music nuts stay away.
...and that multi-touch is official.:cool:
# 15 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
I'm only dissapointed by the fact that they call themselves a "revolutionary" phone but don't even have expandable memory!
# 16 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
The main problem I saw was no SD slot. SD cards can be had for nothing these days (4GB under $50), and lots of people use a Palm Treo as an iPod, just swapping in a different SD card with a different music collection on it. Carrying a few of them around in the phone case, it is possible to have 20GB of music, but only 4GB available at any one time. That's more than anough for most, and certainly more than the iPhone.
No SD slot - another example of Apple telling people what they want rather than asking them.
Dopial at 2007-11-15 13:15:48 >

# 17 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
To hold all of that, jsut use your iPod. the iPhone had those as an extra. That just means holding a few of your favorite songs, videos and photos with you. Not your entire library on the phone.
I suppose now we'll get a better feeling of how the next generation iPod will be like. May or may not be similar so don't quote me on this.
It could possibly be similar only with a larger hd, and without the extra phone functions limited to only videos photos and music.
# 18 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
This memory thing kills me, what would have been perfect is to sell the phone with some small internal memory to accomodate the minimum phone features then all users to purchase SD or other flash type memory on their own or sold as a package as to their specific needs and subsequently charge less on the phone. You could likely buy the phone for about $100 cheaper.
Phone user: You would like to use the phone as 90% phone then get 1-2GB.
Phone/Music: You want the phone as primarily a music player and phone and don't care about video get 6GB-8GB.
Phone/Music/Video: You really want an all in one device that allows you to not take your video IPOD/portable dvd player/computer with you and do everything you want, get a a couple 8GB SD cards, one that has a ton of video content as needed, these things are tiny, you could throw it in your wallet...and/or buy a really large flash memory as budget allows like 16GB+ as they become cost effective solutions.
I would even be cool if Apple had a propietary SD type of card, just give me the flexibility. Isn't the idea of the iPhone to be an all in one device, why would I buy this device yet still carry around my IPOD. If that is the plan then why not spend less money on a very nice phone that is smaller and carry around that IPOD.
I am willing to have a premium product at a premium price which gets the job done to accomodate several needs.
B.
# 19 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
To hold all of that, jsut use your iPod. the iPhone had those as an extra. That just means holding a few of your favorite songs, videos and photos with you. Not your entire library on the phone.Honestly, why not have your entire library on your phone?:confused:
1/4" thicker + $100 gets the iPhone an 80GB HD...
Just one clump in my pocket suits me fine.:D
Suit yourself.:cool:
# 20 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
maby dont buy the iPhone?:confused:
ebrunn at 2007-11-15 13:19:51 >

# 21 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
Isn't the idea of the iPhone to be an all in one device, why would I buy this device yet still carry around my IPOD. I am willing to have a premium product at a premium price which gets the job done to accomodate several needs.Me and you both.
I would take flexibility also,
maybe iSkin builds a case with room for 2-3 cards on the back.
That'd be str8.
But d@mm, I would love to pay $799 for an 80GB iPhone and be done w/ my cell phone, PDA, and 3G 40GB iPod.
Walkin around w/ my pockets on literal swoll ain't that cool, IMO:D
# 22 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
Me and you both.
I would take flexibility also,
maybe iSkin builds a case with room for 2-3 cards on the back.
That'd be str8.
But d@mm, I would love to pay $799 for an 80GB iPhone and be done w/ my cell phone, PDA, and 3G 40GB iPod.
Walkin around w/ my pockets on literal swoll ain't that cool, IMO:D
Exactly, the point of this device seems to offer what most everyone wants an all in one product to cover all the bases so you don't have to carry around 3/4 different things, yet the memory offered is simply not there.
B.
# 23 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
Exactly, the point of this device seems to offer what most everyone wants an all in one product to cover all the bases so you don't have to carry around 3/4 different things, yet the memory offered is simply not there.
B.
Not everyone wants a all-in-one device, for one the devices focused on a specific task (i.e. iPod is focused on music, RAZR on PHONE) are almost if NOT ALWAYS better at what they do than these damn all in one devices.
For Two, these devices suffer from crappy battery life when compared to two seperate devices.
For Three, its much easier to operate two different devices independantly instead of one device thats loaded with a bunch of crud you have to search through to get to the feature you want. More features, more hassle.
Four, I don't remember a time where my iPod with Video and my Samsung T809 got in my way cause they were so bulky. Cell Phones are made so small these days, and iPods aren't that big I don't see where carrying both of them would present a problem.
My opinion on the iPhone is:
- overpriced, $600 with a 2 year contract is completely bogus and obsurd
- stuck on cingular as a carrier which is stupid, I'm not switching providers for this phone .
- my cell phone and iPod can do much of what the iPhone does and for cheaper
- battery life is going to present a problem
Apple would have been better off focusing on something like a NEW iPod with Video, instead they attempt to get in the cellphone market with a cell phone that is overpriced, and doesn't offer anything unique than a cute interface and touch screen.
The only way I'd consider getting this iPhone is if, a) I didn't have a cell phone already, b) didn't have a iPod already, c) it is cheaper, d) higher capacities. There is nothing this phone really offers if you already have a cell and a iPod except a coolness factor and who wants to pay that much for coolness.
# 24 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
Honestly, why not have your entire library on your phone?:confused:
1/4" thicker + $100 gets the iPhone an 80GB HD...
Just one clump in my pocket suits me fine.:D
Suit yourself.:cool:
Just because you can is not a reason to actually carry it all with you on the phone.
You say why not, I ask why? Having one's entire music library with them is not a necessity, it's a sickness.
Of course it is one I'm afflicted with because, don't get me wrong I love my 80GB iPod, I love having all of my music with me, no doubts. The thing that drives me crazy that people say "8GB isn't enough", because 8GB is amazing for built in memory in a cell phone capacity.
With iTunes you can make it so it is amazingly easy to manage what's on off a small storage space from a larger library. Though the convience of taking everything with you is great, it doesn't have to be a deal breaker.
people make the comment that 8GB doesn't fit the price, well you aren't just paying for the storage when you buy the iPhone. The iPhone is more a mini-computer than the iPods that have come before it. The price reflects that. Once upon a time a 5GB iPod cost $499.
# 25 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
Further to what Stu is saying, this is also a device that will need to hit a cradle far more often than other iPods, since five hours of talk time is going to mean charging every night for most people.
A good set of smart playlists will work wonders for keeping the content fresh, so that even video content can be used more practically on the device.
For example, for TV shows you can easily keep a half-dozen episodes and remove the ones you've watched to be replaced with new ones, so you always have something to watch while commuting or whatnot. I already use this method with my 80Gb iPod, with the only difference being that I keep a dozen or so episodes of each of several shows, but I certainly don't watch that many between syncs.
So, basically you set up some playlists that fit your listening and watching preferences, and simply come home and drop the device in it's dock every night. Old content is removed and fresh content is loaded on, and the next morning you're good to go.
# 26 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
The thing that drives me crazy that people say "8GB isn't enough", because 8GB is amazing for built in memory in a cell phone capacity.Don't get me wrong. Everything is great for a cell phone. I'm coming 100% from the perspective that this device, with some storage and output options, could change ALL portables forever. Especially given how slick the UI & App. management are!:cool:
Though the convience of taking everything with you is great, it doesn't have to be a deal breaker.Unfortuneately, it is a for sure deal breaker over here, barring a $200 rebate.:D
people make the comment that 8GB doesn't fit the price, well you aren't just paying for the storage when you buy the iPhone. The iPhone is more a mini-computer than the iPods that have come before it. The price reflects that. Once upon a time a 5GB iPod cost $499.We agree. iPhone is a mini-computer, that's axactly why I'm so hype about upping the storage. And I know all about willingly overpaying early for Apple innovation. I dropped $549 on the 3G 40GB iPod when it dropped.:(
Hopefully, I can overpay for an 80GB iPhone w/in 9mos.:cool:
# 27 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
Not everyone wants a all-in-one device, for one the devices focused on a specific task (i.e. iPod is focused on music, RAZR on PHONE) are almost if NOT ALWAYS better at what they do than these damn all in one devices.
For Two, these devices suffer from crappy battery life when compared to two seperate devices.
For Three, its much easier to operate two different devices independantly instead of one device thats loaded with a bunch of crud you have to search through to get to the feature you want. More features, more hassle.
Four, I don't remember a time where my iPod with Video and my Samsung T809 got in my way cause they were so bulky. Cell Phones are made so small these days, and iPods aren't that big I don't see where carrying both of them would present a problem.
My opinion on the iPhone is:
- overpriced, $600 with a 2 year contract is completely bogus and obsurd
- stuck on cingular as a carrier which is stupid, I'm not switching providers for this phone .
- my cell phone and iPod can do much of what the iPhone does and for cheaper
- battery life is going to present a problem
Apple would have been better off focusing on something like a NEW iPod with Video, instead they attempt to get in the cellphone market with a cell phone that is overpriced, and doesn't offer anything unique than a cute interface and touch screen.
The only way I'd consider getting this iPhone is if, a) I didn't have a cell phone already, b) didn't have a iPod already, c) it is cheaper, d) higher capacities. There is nothing this phone really offers if you already have a cell and a iPod except a coolness factor and who wants to pay that much for coolness.
Isn't the point of this phone is that it is an all-in-one device?...Am I missing something here?...if I wanted just a phone, then I would save my money and buy a solid cell phone and carry an ipod.
All I ask for is the ability to have some sort of SD slot, so I can add additional storage as needed or carry around an extra card for when I need a bunch video/audio. Not even mentioning the fact that the up front cost is expensive and getting the benefits of the future product within 2 years having twice the memory is frustrating.
I still love it tho'...give me the option of expandable memory and I am the first in line perfect device!
B.
# 28 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
The biggest downfalls of the iPhone that I can see
No card slot: People want this, even if 8GB is likely plenty for casual usage.
No removable battery: Power users are going to be majorly affect. People who use there phone lots will carry multiple batteries to keep up with the Jone's
# 29 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
It is only 8gb because it is a small phone and uses flash.
This is the frst generation, flash sizes are always increasing.
A hard drive wouldn't be used in something that gets beat up as much as a phone does. Durability. Plus the huge size difference. It would be ######ed.
# 30 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
Isn't the point of this phone is that it is an all-in-one device?...Am I missing something here?...:cool: :D http://www.just-frag.it/supporto/blog/img/exclamation.gif
# 31 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
you forgot what phone using for. it's not portable backup drive. if you want, you'd better get mini HDD you can carry around. it's phone. phone doesn't need more than 8GB memory. it's enough. if you're still not satisfied with it, get ipod. it's the answer. I don't understand why you need more space for this phone. there are a lot of alternative better handheld device in the market in terms of backup.
# 32 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
[QUOTE=teh-cut]It is only 8gb because it is a small phone and uses flash.
This is the frst generation, flash sizes are always increasing.
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Exactly my point, we all know that about a year after you get your hands on one of these these bad boys', 16gb flash will be the same price of 8gb, prices are plummenting faster then Britney Spears career. So let us upgrade our phone with that larger flash simple as that, I even welcome Apple doing some proprietary flash memory upgrade option, something where you get your phone, then a couple years down the road you check out the accessories Apple sells and buy a bigger flash drive, insert into phone and off you go. That way the consumer is happy and Apple still reaps the profit.
B.
# 33 Re: iPhone - 8Gb...What about people who need more storage?
it's phone. phone doesn't need more than 8GB memory. it's enough. if you're still not satisfied with it, get ipod. it's the answer.
Got a 3G 40GB iPod...
it has been the answer for 4 years now...
...I was just geeked @ the possibilty of paying $800 US and being done w/ all other portables.
Apparently, I gotta wait.:mad:
Also...
A hard drive wouldn't be used in something that gets beat up as much as a phone does. Durability. Plus the huge size difference. It would be ######ed
...this is unfortuneately true.
My dream is f#@&ed.....for now...:cool:
I'm all for Brutus proprietary deal too.