No more Motorola Phone with iTunes
I am wondering has Motorola decided no more phones will have iTunes?
or
Maybe Apple has refused to give Motorola the right to carry iTunes on future phones?
Will any future Motorola phones carry iTunes?
# 1 Re: No more Motorola Phone with iTunes
I'm not aware of any official announcement on this in either direction... There's a recent ROKR that's now using RealPlayer, but Motorola has for some time been releasing various models with different media players on them... For instance, some V3i's have iTunes, while others have Motorola's own MP3 player (although I think those are called the "V3m")
# 2 Re: No more Motorola Phone with iTunes
and the iphone will take all the business of the motorolas itunes!
# 3 Re: No more Motorola Phone with iTunes
If there ever is an iPhone... Right now there are wild rumours and speculation about an impending release of an iPhone, and some fragmented reports from foreign manufacturers, but no solid evidence that Apple is going to actually produce one.
Releasing an iPhone would be very difficult for Apple, as the cell phone market is a whole different playing field... Apple would have to cooperate with the carriers and try to drive the business through them for it to be particularly successful. It's a cutt-throat industry, and this is why their partnership with Motorola made much more sense than entering the market directly.
The various carriers have a long habit of demanding that phones be configured their way, which is the main reason why Motorola has so many different models. The U.S. carriers that don't carry the iTunes phones do so because they'd prefer to market their own DRM-based ringtones, and even the ROKR and RAZR V3i do not allow iTunes tracks to be used as ringtones for the same reason.
About the only way that I could see Apple releasing an iPhone without giving up a lot of control over the product to the cellular carriers would be to make it an unlocked GSM device so that it was carrier-neutral, and simply sell it directly. The flexibility of a SIM card makes a GSM iPhone at least plausible. I don't expect we'll see a CDMA iPhone any time soon, as I'm not sure that Apple could get companies like Verizon et al to market it and sell it with the features that Apple might prefer to promote.
# 4 Re: No more Motorola Phone with iTunes
The RAZR V3m is a Verizon Wireless exclusive- and, of course, uses V-Cast... wouldn't want a company other than Verizon to get any money, would we?
That's the main reason I'm buying a Chocolate rather than RAZR, unless someone can tell me how to get iTunes (or any MP3 player, really) onto a V3m.
And yes, if there is an iPhone with iTunes on it, Verizon won't sell it, unless Apple gives them a huge percentage of iTunes sales, since they'd be competing against V-Cast.
# 5 Re: No more Motorola Phone with iTunes
I think if the iPhone ever becomes a reality Apple would be very wise to make the product with Motorola as a partner.
Make a iPhone with a cell phone company that people trust like Motorola.
Make a iPhone with MP3 technology, easy of use and style from Apple.
Both companies win.
Each iPhone sold would count as one iPod for Apple and one Cell Phone for Motorola.
I think the only things stopping such a device from happening is it would be a nightmare in deciding how to brand the iPhone... Motorola would want the Batwing and Apple of course would need the Apple Logo and how to split the profits.
But want the hit device of this decade... This GEEK is sold on the idea.
# 6 Re: No more Motorola Phone with iTunes
Unfortunately, it's not Apple's style to really partner with anybody else on Apple-branded products. The iTunes capable Motorola phones are likely about as close as Apple is going to get to that particular co-branding partnership.
Apple is very strongly oriented around having complete control over the design and features of anything they manufacture, and this goes all the way up to Steve Jobs himself. Having a partner dictate what features should or should not be included, or what the UI should look like would not sit well with Apple.
This holds true for marketing the device through the normal carrier channels as well. Even the carriers are quite fussy about what features they provide on phones they sell to their customers, and of course how much money is in it for them.
The iPhone has been hyped for some time now, but the problem is that it's a serious departure from Apple's normal product strategy, since it requires in the very least cooperation and an understanding of the mobile phone market in order for it to succeed. If Apple actually does have an iPhone in the works, any delays are most likely due to getting their heads around the business and marketplace aspects of such a device.
# 7 Re: No more Motorola Phone with iTunes
It's unfortunate the way the cell carriers act, though it's understandable. I wouldn't want to give up revenue stream myself.
It's a shame because Apple's industrial design expertise would undoubtedly create one heck of a cell phone.
Of course, no one ever said Apple HAD to create a cell phone that used iTunes. They could always just build cell phones to diversity their portfolio of products.
cxc273 at 2007-11-15 13:06:39 >

# 8 Re: No more Motorola Phone with iTunes
Of course, no one ever said Apple HAD to create a cell phone that used iTunes. They could always just build cell phones to diversity their portfolio of products.
Jobs was the first one who said "it's the software, stupid!" :D well, am paraphrasing.
Apple will never make any hardware alone, it will come with great software + contents, for that user's experience Jobs often refers to.
# 9 Re: No more Motorola Phone with iTunes
Jobs was the first one who said "it's the software, stupid!" :D well, am paraphrasing. user's experience
Yeah, I don't understand why it's such an issue, especially when there's a Major for User Interface?? :rolleyes:
Say for instance with my college. We have a User interface major and you'd think one of them got a job around here to design the colleges website but noooooooooo they just make up a ####y ### one with some nOOb. :sigh:
# 10 Re: No more Motorola Phone with iTunes
Designing a good user interface actually takes alot of effort and commitment by mangement. Nowdays things just move too quickly and most companies are run by the numbers (bean counters), so Management says to engineering "u gotta give such product in 120 days and u only have 4 engineers on your team, and make it happend." 'Cuz that's what accounting says in order to hit certain targets (capital budget, expected Return-On-Investment, make stock analysts happy etc).
Apple is different in that Jobs, the founder an visionary is willing and have the power to override the bean counters if necessary. Jobs, for the good of all of us, has kept good design on top of Apple's priority. That's their business model, otherwise they'd just another Dell and such.
# 11 Re: No more Motorola Phone with iTunes
Quality Companies will actually take that time to sort everything out and it will be better for them in the long run. Part of this is the damn public has to have some patients and think more with their brains than the money the have more of. :rolleyes:
# 12 Re: No more Motorola Phone with iTunes
I hope this new iphone will have longer life the the RCKR I got last Xmas... it was cool at first and it took some patience to get it all working... Took it snowboarding a couple of times and did the ipod job. Except that the incoming phonecalls were always in the middle of a run... ended up using just the ipod for the rest of last season.
Anyways that MOTO-ROKR stopped working after 4 months, and the hassle of sending it back etc was too much trouble... So I am still "waiting" for the REAL IPHONE, and I hope its not gonna be a moto.
# 13 Re: No more Motorola Phone with iTunes
Thinksecret site says the Iphone will be release in January. It will be a 2 or 4 gb version. Apple is in discussions with several carriers.
http://thinksecret.com/news/0612iphone.html
jroyal at 2007-11-15 13:12:39 >
