Bitrate limit with SLVR? Seriously?

if it's limited to 192kbps, why would you want to convert to 128kbps?

I thought you would be unhappy because the bitrate was badWell I'd want the songs to play on it without giving an error. If it converted on the fly like for the Shuffle, then I wouldn't have to keep 2 copies of each song that my wife likes.

If music is an important application, u may wanto check out the LG "Chocolate." I think that unit is more geared toward music than any other phone, at the present.

Not endorsing, just seems to hear alot about it.Verizon only, correct? We have Cingular and are pretty happy with them.

Plus, it doesn't have iTunes. Though, I'm sure my wife could survive without iTunes because she wouldn't be using all the time.

Damn, now I've got to think of another x-mas present :(

Verizon is a terrible phone company. They take every good feature off there phones and replace the ui with crap. I have a verizon phone, but my parents won't change to cingular so im stuck with my stupid razr.

I just picked up the RAZR V3i to use as my primary phone (got tired of trying to use a Blackberry as a phone), and it would seem that it's sync process is virtually identical to that used for the Shuffle, with only a few exceptions based on the 100-song limit and the ability to display artwork (which the shuffle obviously cannot).

There is a way to convert on-the-fly to 128kbps AAC, and even to enable "Disk Use"

Note, however, that the interface is USB 1.1, so the sync speeds are sluggish at best... Expect it to take a while each time you connect it, although the upside is that it does charge from your USB port while it's syncing, so you could probably just use your computer as a charger and let is sync to iTunes and then stay charging afterward (like the Shuffle, it auto-ejects when it's done unless you have "Disk Use" on, so you can just grab-and-go in the morning).

The sync screens look like the following:

http://homepage.mac.com/jhollington/photos/iLounge/iTunes-phonesync.png

At the bottom of the "Content" tab (below a listing of songs)
http://homepage.mac.com/jhollington/photos/iLounge/iTunes-phonesync2.png

I don't know for certain, but I can't see why it wouldn't, since I'm sure that iTunes sees it as the same type of device.

Certainly all of the other iTunes Phone features between the V3i and the SLVR appear to be the same.

Well, it's largely an artificial limit, and I've personally always found it a bit odd... Some have suggested that it's deliberately crippled as a marketing strategy to position the iTunes Phones on the lower-end of the scale.

To be fair as well, however, the original devices were limited to about a 512Mb memory card. Although it's possible to get larger cards now, most still only ship with 512Mb, which is going to be pretty close to 100 songs, give or take (the 512Mb 1G Shuffle officially holds "120 songs").

most still only ship with 512Mb, which is going to be pretty close to 100 songs, give or take (the 512Mb 1G Shuffle officially holds "120 songs").
It doesn't help me! :)

I record talk shows which is configured to self-split, so I can quickly jump to the next segment without using fast forward, and it's more accurate. A show I record routinely splits into 60+ odd segments, but takes only about 50MB. Well, theres goes 60% of my allotment for a single show.

No native Podcast support is a deal killer for me, still keeping my iPod. Podcast to me is the greatest thing since sliced bread. It's like having a portable VCR with me. Once configured, I dunn worry about it, EVER, only when I am in the mood to listen, THEY ARE THERE!