Cant disconnect with 2.1!

Originally posted by eappell
I just updated the firmware to 2.1 and now I get this "OK to disconnect" message (with the big checkmark) when I disconnect from my PC. OK, fine. But I listen to music all day long and I just leave the iPod in the dock so it charges. So now I have to physically remove the iPod from the dock for that message to go away! So I can't detach the iPod from the computer, and still leave it in the dock. This won't work for me

What Synch program do you use? I am running xPlay, and MMJBPro 8.1, and only get that problem when i am synchronizing in MMJBPro8.1 When i am done Synchronizing it returns to the main menu. Have you thought of just using the charger adapter to just plug in if you are not synchronizing?

same problem, i am angry.

the only work around i can think of is getting a usb extension and keeping it on my desk so i can detach it, but who wants to do that.

Folks:

This is the way is used to work on all iPods back in the days of the 1.2 firmware. Shoot, actually it was only 3rd gens that didn't go to OK to Disco now that I think about it.

So, they brought an old "feature" back for some reason.

Adam

Glad I stumbled on this topic!

Yes, I'm kind of disappointed about the useless Line-out from the iPod dock after the 2.1 firmware upgrade.

I used to play music using the line out to my speakers all the time while charging the ipod.

Plus I'm using a laptop so playing music on the laptop is less enjoyable because of the soundcard.

They need to put the feature back soon! (please!)

hehe

ok thats all!

U can play with the doc. U just need to plug the firewire into the AC adapter and not your PC. U just cant synch and play at the same time (I dont think you could do that before anyway)

I have an idea.
Once you have undocked and it says "OK to Disconnect", press and hold the play key until it turns off, then turn back on and play whatever you want to play.

Sorry people, I don't understand why in the world you want to wear your iPod's HDD down while you are working on the computer? wouldn't it be easier just use your computer to play your songs and save some wear and tear on your iPod? or am I missing something cool from the line out on the cradle? to me, I think the cradle is good to attach it to the stero receiver in your home theater while it's plug into the ac.

Originally posted by Pekkle
Sorry people, I don't understand why in the world you want to wear your iPod's HDD down while you are working on the computer? wouldn't it be easier just use your computer to play your songs and save some wear and tear on your iPod? or am I missing something cool from the line out on the cradle? to me, I think the cradle is good to attach it to the stero receiver in your home theater while it's plug into the ac.

Well, first of all, we paid $400, more or less, for this thing, we should have the option whether you understand it or not. But secondly, I use my computer for some pretty CPU intensive work. I don't want to take resources away from that by playing MP3s. And I shouldn't have to. That's why I bought an MP3 player.

I've owned five different players, three of them HD players, and this is the ONLY one that won't allow me to listen to tracks off of it while it's connected to the PC. So I think I'm totally justified in expecting that feature... Oh, and BTW, I've never experienced the HD "wearing down" on any MP3 player. I doubt that's an issue with the iPod...

Eddie

I actually purchased a 2nd dock and a firewire card for my PC at work.

I have an old PC with a small HD and no sound card so I CAN'T listen to MP3's at work which is why I loved being able to plop my iPod in the dock and listen all day while I worked. Since upgrading to 2.1 I can't do that!

"No problem" I thought, I'll just put 2.01 back on my little beasty and that will be that.. I launched my 2.0.1 updater and BAM!!!! Guess what's greyed out now.. "Update".. I can do a "Restore" but that won't reset the firmware, just erase all my music and reinitialize my iPod database..

Anyone have any luck getting 2.1 off and 2.01 back on?

So back to the original topic of this thread Can't disconnect with 2.1!!.

Has anyone being able to solve this yet. I am getting desperate now. I got that #### message on my iPod all the time; I cant get to the main menu, hence I cant play my music anymore. I cant even dowgrade/update the firmware.

What would be the best way to contact apple?

or... if you were REALLY worried about it, buy an extra dock to fwire cable (handy anyway) and then plug that from the poer into your doc :P then you will not have to crawl under the desk ;)

i wonder if they will come out with a better firmware soon for windows users since mac users aren't experiencing this problem. lucky folks!

well i actually have the cable that have two connectors, firewire and usb 2.0. so my firewire actually connect to the ac adapter and the usb to the laptop. All i need to do is unplugged the usb 2.0 from my laptop everytime i want to listen to music through the line-out from the dock.

but that's still a hassle.

Just called Apple on 0870 876 0753 (UK) to register my complaint about the 2.1 update.

Please do the same, and let's get it changed.

Better still EVERYBODY send your concerns to Apple using their feedback form here:

If we don't do it, it won't change!!!

http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipod.html

I'm pretty annoyed by this issue aswell as I use the iPod for this a lot. One way of avoiding it that works for me is having the iPod in place in the dock before starting the PC, Under win2k at least windows doesn't connect to the iPod on startup and so it'll charge whilst still being able to play.

Originally posted by eappell
I would gladly go back 2.0.1, but I can't find it anywhere on the Apple website. Anyone know how to download the old firmware? Also, I heard that it wasn't possible to go backwards - are some of you having success installing the old version?

Thanks!

Eddie

Yep.. i'm happily back to 2.0.1.. did a Restore.. i had 2.0.1 installed when i received the iPod...

-Damien

No, Inguyen you can't host it--well, you can, but you can't post a link to it here.

Please check out the Forum Guidelines (http://ipodlounge.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7588). We cannot allow links to illegal software downloads in the 'lounge. And the updater software can only be distributed by Apple.

They tend to watch this site (they get a lot of solutions from it ;)), and others that have tried to hack the software have received dreaded "Cease and Desist" letters...so we can't be a part of that.

Do note, anyone posting links will be banned. It's extreme, but we gotta do it.

Adam

Originally posted by ashawley
No, Inguyen you can't host it--well, you can, but you can't post a link to it here.

Please check out the Forum Guidelines (http://ipodlounge.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7588). We cannot allow links to illegal software downloads in the 'lounge. And the updater software can only be distributed by Apple.

They tend to watch this site (they get a lot of solutions from it ;)), and others that have tried to hack the software have received dreaded "Cease and Desist" letters...so we can't be a part of that.

Do note, anyone posting links will be banned. It's extreme, but we gotta do it.

Adam

ah. didn't realize it'd be considered illegal... heh. oh well. thanks for lettin me know.

Originally posted by eappell
I just updated the firmware to 2.1 and now I get this "OK to disconnect" message (with the big checkmark) when I disconnect from my PC.
Eddie

WrkArnd - Chrg iPod on Laptop + No Ok to Disc

I just posted this on the Apple discussion board and in a new message, but I'll also post it here...

All,

I just tested a work-around that appears to solve two annoyances that folks are fussing about...

1) The iPod gets stuck on the "Ok to diconnect" message while it's in the cradle, so I can't do anything with it while it is in the cradle.

2) I have a laptop that doesn't provide power on the FireWire bus (chain), so I have to unplug it from my laptop & plug it into the charger to charge it.

Both of these problems can be solved by adding a piece of hardware - I didn't say it would be free - but it needn't be expensive.

I have an older ADS Technologies external FireWire case - I have my DVD burner in there now, but it will accept 3.5" and 5 1/4" hard drives & CD ROM drives.

(Resolution for problem 2, no power to iPod)

This case has 3 FireWire ports. I have one going to my laptop (with a 4 pin to 6 pin cable - I could have used Apple's provided adapter). The iPod is plugged into the second FireWire port. I connected the third FireWire port to a 6 pin to 6 pin (has to be 6 pin to 6 pin for this to work) cable, then plugged the cable into the iPod power supply, then plugged the power supply into the wall.

My FireWire bus (chain) now has power from the iPod adapter and my iPod is charging from it.

(Resolution for problem 1, iPod stays on "Ok to Disconnect" message)

Now that everything is plugged in & ready to go, I can hit the power button on the ADS external case, and my iPod is disconnected from the FireWire chain. When it disconnects, its display returns to the main menu.

How's that for "two birds with one stone."

Word of caution - you need to have an external case that has three (3) FireWire ports!!

Hope this helps,

Franko

Originally posted by kaiowas
I've now come accross a pretty satisfactory solution to the OK to disconnect problem which actually makes the iPod work how I wanted it to in the first place.

As I rarely actually want to update the data on my iPod but always put it in the dock for charging I'd always have preferred it if windows ignored the iPod unless I specifically told it to connect, the following method achieves this...

1) Connect the iPod as normal.
2) Bring up the "Unplug or Eject hardware" dialog
3) Select the iPod and click the "properties" button
4) At the bottom of the Properties dialog select "Do Not use this device (disable)"

The iPod should now show the "OK to disconnect" message

5) Disconnect the iPod from the dock and wait for the normal menu to return
6) You are now free to insert and remove the ipod from the dock as you wish without Windows connecting to it.

When you actually want to connect to the ipod simply put te iPod in the dock and reset the above option to "Use the Device (enable)"

I'm sure it wouldn't be too big a task to write a small program to turn this into a one click operation which I may well do if I find the time.

That sounds like a working "goaround" until apple does their work. The thing is... Maybe I'm just a noob or just the fact that I'm not using an english XP. But I can't find
"2) Bring up the "Unplug or Eject hardware" dialog"?
Where should I look? DeviceManager, iTunes?

I'm looking forward to that little prog. that does this ;-)
Thanx / Anders

I wrote a small program in C that seems to work fine for me to disable/enable the ipod devices (under XP with a 40GB). Here's the zip (source is included):
http://lastaccess.com/files/ipod_enable_disable.zip

Btw, don't try to use it when you have iTunes/EphPod open -- it seems that it won't unmount when a program is using the drive.

Great work, it works perfectly for me.

That's miles better than Apple Support's own fumbled attempts at workaround. Still do feedback them to hell about it though ;-)

Link's OK atm. :confused:

Originally posted by rhubarbbs

This is bogus! Does anyone have a work around?

LOL...the answer is literally right in your face!

Scroll up a few posts above yours - download that ZIP file. (ignore my comment that the link didn't work)

It does the trick. Just enable when you want to sync, disable when you want to playback. - I just made buttons in my QuickLaunch toolbar to turn it on/off.

Well, it's been a long time since I had to deal with this issue. I went back to 2.0.1 for quite a while and was very happy. Then I bought the Belkin voice recorder for iPod. This requires 2.1 or higher to work. So I decided to try the new 2.2 firmware update. It STILL has the same damn problem!!! This is absolutely infuriating. I can't believe people get all worked up about Microsoft... Apple is just as bad...

I tried the fix, but it doesn't seem to work for me. I run the "ipod_disable" batch file, but when I plug the iPod in, it still connects to Windows (XP). The only way I can get it to work is to manually go in and disable the device when I want to listen.

I'm SO ####ed off at Apple!!! I'm sure tons of people complained about this, but they refused to do anything about it. Great customer service... This is the last time I buy any Apple product.

-eddie

take the 23" cinema. TAKE IT. if you don't want it, i'll take it.

Hello,
I have a similar problem:
Whenever I plug my 3g 10gb pod into my PC (via FireWire), everything seems to transfer fine. But then, I never get the "ok to disconnect" message. The PC says "iPod update complete" but the iPod just sits there and says "do not disconnect." I have no choice to disconnect, but everything seems to be fine after that. What's going on?!