Napsters comeback!
[37 byte] By [emoglitterati] at [2007-11-9 14:34:59] 
Napster 2.0 (http://www.napster.com/)
# 1 Re: Napsters comeback!
Whoopie, yet another WMA+DRM music store. How many do they think we need when they all have the same freakin tracks?tubedogg at 2007-11-15 18:08:40 >
# 2 Re: Napsters comeback!
i also read there that napster 2.0 and samsung are going to be releasing their own portable mp3 player in fall. Wonder what that thing will look likesamsung generally makes pretty crappy stuff...won't compare to the ipod im sure.
deftdrummer1 at 2007-11-15 18:09:40 >
# 3 Re: Napsters comeback!
Originally posted by tubedogg Whoopie, yet another WMA+DRM music store. How many do they think we need when they all have the same freakin tracks?
I agree, there's really no difference between Napster 2.0 and Musicmatch Downloads. Well, the GUI is different, I suppose. :rolleyes:
c.c.r. at 2007-11-15 18:10:38 >
# 4 Re: Napsters comeback!
Originally posted by deftdrummer1 i also read there that napster 2.0 and samsung are going to be releasing their own portable mp3 player in fall. Wonder what that thing will look like
samsung generally makes pretty crappy stuff...won't compare to the ipod im sure.
look in the general forum
TekMonkey at 2007-11-15 18:11:44 >
# 5 Re: Napsters comeback!
Originally posted by deftdrummer1 i also read there that napster 2.0 and samsung are going to be releasing their own portable mp3 player in fall. Wonder what that thing will look like
samsung generally makes pretty crappy stuff...won't compare to the ipod im sure.
http://gear.ign.com/articles/454/454028p1.html?fromint=1
emoglitterati at 2007-11-15 18:12:42 >
# 6 Re: Napsters comeback!
Napster 2.0 has the largest catalog of the "reasonable DRM" download services. I think the DRM is supposed to be pretty similar to iTunes. And Napster will start out with 500,000 songs. I think that's the major selling point. But using WMA is a pretty stupid idea. With the iPod making up such a huge share of the mp3 player market, it's a bad choice. However, there's a page 2 rumor at Macrumors.com that says there's a possibility that the next version of iTunes, which will be available for the PC in order to give us the music store, could support WMA. (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/10/20031009151815.shtml)
This would certainly mean WMA could be played on the iPod, too. However, WMA seems really unlikely. After all, Apple has said that it doesn't really profit off of the music downloads, but sees it as a good way to sell more ipods, which they are making good money on. If the iPod can play WMA from Napster and Musicmatch, then what's the point of the store?
Wolfman200 at 2007-11-15 18:13:41 >
# 7 Re: Napsters comeback!
The iPod may make up a huge share of the mp3 player market but the mp3 player market represents a little tiny blip in the universe of trying to sell tracks to the KaZaA-ites. They aren't aiming at the portable device fanatics - they're aiming at people who want to listen to their music on a computer or burn a mix CD. Remember we still represent a small subset of those who listen to music on computers.Additionally, there is no other format that is feasible for a Windows-based music store if you are going to allow transfers to more devices than the iPod. No other device supports AAC+Fairplay, namely because Apple won't license it. MP3 is out of the question because there's no DRM. What other formats are there that are common? Ogg Vorbis? There's only one device that supports Ogg, and I wouldn't call Ogg "common" anyway.
If Apple wants to sell more iPods, then they need to support WMA+DRM, since 95% of the world uses a platform that supports it by default. If the point of their music store is not profit, but rather to move the device, then they shouldn't care where the music is coming from so long as it's being listened to on an iPod.
If they release iTunes without support for WMA, I doubt you will see any serious uptake of it...if you can only play (talking about DRM solutions here) AAC+Fairplay in iTfW, which shuts you out of using it for all the other music stores, people will use WiMP or something else that supports WMA+DRM (WinAMP does I think?). Even if the support is only in iTfW and does not extend to the 'Pod, they'd be stupid to not include one of the most widely-used music formats on the Windows platform in a music manager for Windows.
tubedogg at 2007-11-15 18:14:44 >
# 8 Re: Napsters comeback!
Oy.I got to thinking last night. I'm so sickened by the Napster advertisements that I've been seeing.
"Napster is Back!"
What total malarkey. "Napster" was peer-to-peer file sharing software. It broke new ground and forced the entire online community, not to mention the record labels, to re-think how some things are done. It made everyday PC users aware of what an "mp3" was and why they were so cool. It made hundreds of thousands of people aware that they can, in fact, use their home computer as a home stereo. It was the right piece of software, with the right use, at the right time.
By virtue of just being, Napster changed the face of the planet (for the better) in its own way.
Now, Roxio is giving us "Napster 2.0" and claiming that "The cat is back". Well nuts to that.
Napster 2.0 is nothing more than a music store which is using the Napster name and logo to get customers. They aren't pioneering anything new now, they're just piggy-backing on a good idea (the iTunes Music Store). Napster 2.0 has nothing to do with a peer-to-peer network. It has nothing to do with sharing your files. It doesn't even use .mp3 files, the format that the real Napster made so famous.
Napster is not "back" friends. It is still dead. Roxio, Inc. has only succeeded in acquiring use of its trademark and in defiling its memory.
They should be ashamed of themselves.
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
c.c.r. at 2007-11-15 18:15:47 >
# 9 Re: Napsters comeback!
They're killing the legal downloading of songs until it's dead... I'm all for competition, but does everyone think that people will totally forget about cd's, and other downloading methods?Impulse29 at 2007-11-15 18:16:44 >
# 10 Re: Napsters comeback!
I have to agree with Kurt (c.c.r.).. Napster is a victim of identity theft. It is 'back' in name only.TrappedOnEarth at 2007-11-15 18:17:45 >
# 11 Re: Napsters comeback!
Originally posted by deftdrummer1 samsung generally makes pretty crappy stuff...won't compare to the ipod im sure.
Samsung makes great monitors, along with pretty much almost everything else.
They also made the power adapter that goes on the end of your firewire cord to charge your pod.
I can't get too hyped about USB 2.0 only MP3 players. A lot of drivers and hardware implementations for USB 2.0 ports aren't up to spec and don't give you full throughput.
Example: My IBM Netvista at work is USB 2.0, it took 3 minutes to copy a few hundred megs to my pod.
At home on Firewire, getting files off the pod took about 30 seconds.
That shouldn't happen.
palexc at 2007-11-15 18:18:43 >
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