Why Im dissapointed with iTunes store.
I was so psyched when I started using iTunes and my iPod.
I've had both for 2 weeks and haven't bought a single album.
I typically find artist I want, but not the album I'm looking for. If the album I want is there, it's usually listed as a partial album.
I was hoping to add a lot of stuff to my collection that I enjoyed when I was in high school and either didn't have anymore or only had on cassette.
Feeling really let down. :(
[493 byte] By [
palexc] at [2007-11-9 15:27:58]
# 1 Re: Why Im dissapointed with iTunes store.
Which is exactly what Kazaa and all the other p2ps are for. Generally I'm finding stuff I can't find anywhere else that I haven't heard for ages and that I generally paid for 20 years ago!
# 2 Re: Why Im dissapointed with iTunes store.
I just did a quick search for tool, nothing. A perfect circle, not even their couple month old album. Unless theres more and its cheaper, then P2P is how I am staying.
Adam at 2007-11-15 17:32:16 >
# 3 Re: Why Im dissapointed with iTunes store.
With so much competition coming out now, they're going to have to really ramp it up on the content side and use that as a strong selling point.
I still don't get this partial album business.
palexc at 2007-11-15 17:33:15 >
# 4 Re: Why Im dissapointed with iTunes store.
me neither palexc, i would buy more albums from there, if they were complete, i mostly buy full albums from there, and nothing that cost more than 9.99, cause if its 13.84 or something like that, i can get it over here at the store.
zerock at 2007-11-15 17:34:20 >
# 5 Re: Why Im dissapointed with iTunes store.
I'm with you all on the partial album business. I tend to like to listen to and own full albums. Something about what the artist intended when they made the darn thing.
I just don't see myself buying a bunch of individual mp3s - guess my age is showing. ;)
Adam
# 6 Re: Why Im dissapointed with iTunes store.
Does anyone know if the lack of music/partial albums are due to liscensing issues? It seems like all of the new legal download sites have about the same library [400-500k songs].
I'm guessing the sites would want as many songs as possible and its the record companies holding back.
MikeM at 2007-11-15 17:36:20 >
# 7 Re: Why Im dissapointed with iTunes store.
I think an explanation on the store's part is in order.
If it truly is a licensing issue with the companies, it's in their interest to tell subscribers "Hey, the reason we limit stuff is because the record companies don't want to commit to this online thing."
palexc at 2007-11-15 17:37:24 >
# 8 Re: Why Im dissapointed with iTunes store.
And can you imagine if it is due to the Labels or Artists not wanting full albums on there? How unbelieveably idiotic would that be of them to think for some reason that it would encourage you to buy the album at a brick-n-mortar. What it does is encourage folks that want to be honest into the p2p world.
I can see it now - get the 5 songs from iTunes, download the missing songs from KaZaa.
:rolleyes:
When are the Labels/Artists going to get some common business sense?
</rant off>
Adam
# 9 Re: Why Im dissapointed with iTunes store.
Originally posted by palexc
I think an explanation on the store's part is in order.
If it truly is a licensing issue with the companies, it's in their interest to tell subscribers "Hey, the reason we limit stuff is because the record companies don't want to commit to this online thing."
I don't think so. For marketing purposes, you don't want to point out that your selection is weak whether its your fault or not.
And I don't think the store wants to say anything bad about the record companies while trying to convince them to loosen up.
MikeM at 2007-11-15 17:39:24 >
# 10 Re: Why Im dissapointed with iTunes store.
True, illustrating a limited selection is not the way to win customers over.
But fueling public outcry over limitations imposed by the record companies will force them to change.
It worked for MS against Eolas, Berners-Lee got involved directly with the patent office.
1 Frank Black album and none of the good Pixies albums?!
No Elvis Costello catalog?!
:mad: :mad: :mad:
palexc at 2007-11-15 17:40:25 >
# 11 Re: Why Im dissapointed with iTunes store.
your posts make me think. in one of his keynote addresses for itunes for windows, steve jobs says the itunes has "filtered" music like a record store or radio station. i think their filtering is pretty sucky, which is probably why i have only purchased 2 albums from the store.
take a look at the one u.n.k.l.e. album they have. it's a partial album, and they have some fill-in or interlude tracks that are like 54 seconds long which still cost $.99!!! and they don't even have some of the best tracks on the album. when i saw that i was like, "wtf?"
so, i totally agree with you guys. and as much as i hate to admit it, i'm file sharing again. until someone gets an itunes store for the rest of us, we have no choice.
# 12 Re: Why Im dissapointed with iTunes store.
i agree, i can never find what i'm looking for in the iTMS
# 13 Re: Why Im dissapointed with iTunes store.
I think its a real pain in the ares that the iTunes store does not work in the UK. I would pay good money to get some of my mp3 collection which is too low a bit rate to convert to AAC.
Also when you buy a song do you get to specify the bit rate at which you can own it?
Also say you delete it is there anyway you can go back and download it without having topay for it again.
Optrix at 2007-11-15 17:43:25 >
# 14 Re: Why Im dissapointed with iTunes store.
yeah, and if your mac crashes, like mine has done several times, you have to reauthorize your AAC files to play on your computer again. and if it happens to much, you are SOL and have to rebuy everything. thank god apple replaced my ibook's crappy toshiba HD with a hitachi HD. hopefully i won't have this problem again.
# 15 Re: Why Im dissapointed with iTunes store.
I'm disapointed with the ITunes store because it still isn't available in the UK..
loGan at 2007-11-15 17:45:33 >
# 16 Re: Why Im dissapointed with iTunes store.
you're not missing much, as you can tell from the posts in this topic. alas, i still have to use soulseek...
# 17 Re: Why Im dissapointed with iTunes store.
Hmmm! Interesting thread, guys. I hadn't realised that there were any partial albums on iTMS at all.
I'm fairly sure I'll stick to buying discs - unless copy protection on CDs becomes i) ubiquitous and ii) impossible/too difficult to deal with. I can't get on with the concept of DRM at all, at least not yet.
# 18 Re: Why Im dissapointed with iTunes store.
Originally posted by geistwerks
yeah, and if your mac crashes, like mine has done several times, you have to reauthorize your AAC files to play on your computer again. and if it happens to much, you are SOL and have to rebuy everything. thank god apple replaced my ibook's crappy toshiba HD with a hitachi HD. hopefully i won't have this problem again.
what does SOL mean?
zerock at 2007-11-15 17:48:30 >
# 19 Re: Why Im dissapointed with iTunes store.
Originally posted by zerorocker
what does SOL mean?
S**t Out of Luck, of course.
MikeM at 2007-11-15 17:49:28 >
# 20 Re: Why Im dissapointed with iTunes store.
I do like iTunes, but this has got to be its biggest rip-off:
The highly-recommended Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon. 9 songs, $16.99 and you can only purchase the whole album. Not cool. :mad: And it's $13.49 on Amazon!
btw, the one good thing I've found on Napster not on iTunes is XTC. Aside from that, no dice...
Lara at 2007-11-15 17:50:29 >
# 21 Re: Why Im dissapointed with iTunes store.
Crikey! That is outrageous... No-one should be deprived a copy of the Dark Side.
