os9 compatibality?
Apologies if you've gotten this question a thousand times (I'm sure you have), but -
please please please tell me there's some way to use a 30gb iPod with os9!
I have a titanium g4 with os9, and I can't upgrade to osx due to compatibality issues with some programs i need for work. any ideas?
thanks!
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matlock99] at [2007-11-9 14:37:39]

# 1 Re: os9 compatibality?
Even if it did work [which I'm not sure about], you would be missing a ton of features by not having iTunes 4.
MikeM at 2007-11-15 16:51:00 >

# 2 Re: os9 compatibality?
I have a G4 400MHz running 9.2.2. and a 3rd gen. 15gig iPod. Like MikeM said, if you don't mind missing some of "extras" with iTunes 4.0 it will work. You won't be able to download from Apple's music store running iTunes 2.0 or use the ACC format. Hope this helps.
# 3 Re: os9 compatibality?
u can install both OSX and OS9 in yr computer. OS9 will automatically start when u run those programs.
# 4 Re: os9 compatibality?
I have a similar problem as Matlock99...
So, do I understand correctly that the problem is not necessarily with the OS, but rather with the version of iTunes I'm running? Which version(s) of iTunes will work with OS9 and a 3g iPod? Do I understand correctly from Squishy's post that installing version 2.0 of iTunes will solve the problem? Can I still download that from Apple's website? Do I need to uninstall whatever version of iTunes I have on my G4 now before I install another version?
# 5 Re: os9 compatibality?
Whoa, people still use OS 9?
You sure are missing a lot not using panther :(
# 6 Re: os9 compatibality?
No doubt. I've had the panther software lying around collecting dust for about a month now. Can't install it for reasons that I explained in excruciating detail at this thread: iPod>My iPod and I>Help! My wife = iPod fascist.
# 7 Re: os9 compatibality?
Originally posted by cberube
I've had the panther software lying around collecting dust for about a month now.
What version?
Panther doesn't officially come out till tomorrow...
# 8 Re: os9 compatibality?
Oops...I meant OS X. Sorry.
# 9 Re: os9 compatibality?
I'll try to answer some of your questions from your previous post. I'm using itune 2.0 because I haven't upgraded to osX. Correct me if I'm wrong but in order to run iTunes 3.0 or higher, you'll need some version Os X. As far as I know, one can only download from Apple's music store using iTunes 4.0 or higher.
# 10 Re: os9 compatibality?
At this point, I'm just trying to get my iPod working with my G4 (running OS 9) in any sort of fashion. I understand that I may not be able to download songs from Apple's music store unless I upgrade to OS X; however, I was hoping I could at least use the G4/OS 9 combo to load some of my cd's to the iPod. The problem is, when I tried to do that, all that happened was I got a message that said something like "do not disconnect" that would not go away; I had to reboot the computer. It was at that point I looked into it a little closer, and it seems to me that the owner's manual said something about OS X as a system requirement for my iPod (3rd generation). So, my basic question is this: Is there anyway to load my cd's into my 3rd gen iPod using my G4 running OS 9? How? Which version of iTunes do I need to use to do that?
Thanks for trying to help...
# 11 Re: os9 compatibality?
When you place your iPod in the cradle, you should see the "Do Not Disconnect" on the iPod screen. This is normal. There should be an iPod icon on your desk top. Just click and drag the icon to the trash. The"Do Not Disconnect" should disappear and a menu screen should be visable. If you have iTunes opened up, it should appear in the columne to your left. Just click on the eject button at the lower right hand corner.
Yes you can convert songs from your CD collection to mp3s and load them up on your iPod. If you have Os 9.2.2 and iTunes 2.0 you're all ready to go. There is one other thing, do you have the "iPod FireWire Enabler" extension in your extensions folder?
# 12 Re: os9 compatibality?
Thanks for the helpful suggestions! Don't know about the firewire enabler, but I'll check it out when I get home. Also, I don't know if it matters, but I don't have the cradle; I was just going straight into the machine with the firewire. Anyway, I'll give your suggestions a try over the weekend and hopefully get things straightened out. If not, I'll probably be posting again by Monday.
Thanks again!
# 13 Re: os9 compatibality?
Not having a dock should not affect using your iPod. Mine came with one. Hopefully we can get you up and running soon. Don't stress too much about it. You're going through the same issues i did when I got mine. For awhile I thought i had a $399 paper weight. Have a good weekend
# 14 Re: os9 compatibality?
Well, over the weekend, I upgraded all the way from OS 9.0.2 to 9.2.2, and still nothing. iTunes recognizes my iPod, but when I select it, there's a lock-shaped icon that appears just to the right of where iTunes shows amount of space used/unused on the iPod's disc. I am guessing that this means the disc is overwrite protected somehow, but I'm not sure. I checked out the user's manual and it really doesn't say anything about it. I tried calling Apple's user support, but they won't help me because I'm not running OS X.
Am I at another impasse?
# 15 Re: os9 compatibality?
Is the icon a button you can click on? I have the same thing just like you have just to the right of where it shows the amount of used space.But its not a button that you can click. What appears on your iPod screen? "Do Not Disconect"? Also did you try trashing your iPod FireWire enabler extension? Do you have any songs that are in the mp3 format in your iTunes folder? You might be good to go!
# 16 Re: os9 compatibality?
I tried clicking on the lock-shaped icon, and nothing happened; it's not a button. The iPod screen says "do not disconnect" and that message does not go away. As far as I can tell, the firewire is enabled, but maybe I'm not looking in the right place. Could you explain a little more how I check that? As far as I know, all of the songs in my iTunes folders are MP3, but I understand that I should be able to click and drag the songs to my iPod on the iTunes source list. Every time I try to click and drag a song to the iPod, the iPod won't take it.
I am wondering if there is some kind of overwrite protection on the iPod; that's usually what a lock-shaped icon means. But I have not seen any mention of overwrite protection in the user's manual or in any of the iPod help. Again, when I asked Apple's tech support about it, all they suggested was that I reinstall the software on the iPod, but I don't want to do that just yet for reasons that are too complicated to go into (but are explained in excruciating detail at the thread My iPod and I>Help! My wife = iPod fascist).
# 17 Re: os9 compatibality?
P.S. I'm pretty sure the firewire is enabled because iTunes recognizes my iPod and it shows up as a source...
# 18 Re: os9 compatibality?
I'm a slow typer so bear with me. The "Do Not Disconnect" on the iPod screen is normal. It should show up every time you connect your iPod to the FW cable. I think its a preventative thing so you don't disconnect improperly. The closest analogy I can think of is like doing a "hard shut down on you computer, ie turning off the computer without closing down any open programs. Unmounting the iPod will make the "DND" disappear from the iPod window. This can be accomplished two ways. One, if your iPod shows up on your desktop, just drag the icon to the trash. Two, if you have iTiunes opened up, just click on the eject button at the lower right corner ( it looks like an underscored small triangle. You can now unplug the FW cable from your iPod without potentialy damaging any of your mp3 files. Try this first. Let me know what happens.
# 19 Re: os9 compatibality?
I was able to do that using the eject button; however, when I rebooted the lock was still on there. Nothing I do seems to get rid of that lock or enable me to drag music files to my iPod.
# 20 Re: os9 compatibality?
This may be a dumb question, but have you made of a playlist that shows on the source list on the right hand side of the iTunes window? If you were trying to drag the file(s) from the large columne (your library) to the iPod icon in the source list, I don't think it will work.
# 21 Re: os9 compatibality?
Yeah, I created a "test" playlist from my library that appeared in my source list. I could not drag that to my iPod either.
# 22 Re: os9 compatibality?
Your test playlist that shows up in your iTunes window should load when you hook up the FW cable. When the iPod's main screen appears, "Playlists" should at the top. Followed by Browse,Extras.... . When you touch the Play/Pause button what happens? Did you disable the iPod FW Enabler extension?
# 23 Re: os9 compatibality?
When the ipod is connected to the computer, the only display I get on the ipod is "do not disconnect", and it does not go away. I don't think anything happens when I touch any of the buttons on the ipod while it's connected to the computer.
And I'm still trying to figure out what that lock-shaped icon means.
# 24 Re: os9 compatibality?
The "DND" doesn't go away when you hit the eject button in iTunes or dragging the iPod icon to the trash?
# 25 Re: os9 compatibality?
When I hit the eject, the ipod disappears completely from iTunes (that is, the ipod no longer appears on my source list and the ipod icon disappears). I can't remember now whether the DND goes away on the ipod's display.
# 26 Re: os9 compatibality?
Hi I see you're on-line. Do a search here. Type in "iPod compatiblity". Look for a thread by hipsuk. See if this applies to you. It has to do with the iPod FW enabler extension I was talking about.
# 27 Re: os9 compatibality?
Thanks! I'll check it out...
# 28 Re: os9 compatibality?
I must be doing something wrong b/c I keep getting "sorry, no matches"
# 29 Re: os9 compatibality?
i don't know how to send a link but here goes http://www.ipodlounge.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4262&highlight=ipod+compatiblity
# 30 Re: os9 compatibality?
Got the link, it worked great, thanks for doing that. It sure sounds like the same problem. You'll have to forgive me, I'm somewhat of a computer dunce, but are you saying that the Firewire HD driver needs to be disabled or enabled to solve the problem? How do I do that?
# 31 Re: os9 compatibality?
Ok Squishy, since my last post I ran a search a found one of your posts from 8/5/03 where you explained the procedure. So, I'm going to try that tonight and hopefully that's the problem. Wish me luck!
# 32 Re: os9 compatibality?
Well Squishy, I tried your suggestion last night. All that really accomplished was the computer no longer recognized my iPod: the iPod no longer appeared in the source list on iTunes, the icon no longer appeared at the bottom of the iTunes window, and there was nothing on the desktop.
Can't say I am terribly surprised, by disabling the firewire it seems that this would be the outcome. It just seems counter-intuitive to disable the firewire if that's the only thing connecting the iPod to the computer, but maybe I'm missing something here.
For what it's worth, I was getting the menu on the iPod's display while it was hooked up with the firewire disabled. Was there something else I was supposed to do at that point? It seemed like I was at another impasse, so I just re-enabled the firewire, the iPod re-appeared in iTunes, and I shut it off and gave up on it for the night.
Once again, I appreciate your help trying to troubleshoot this. Apple's tech support has been no help to me b/c they won't even talk to me until I get the OS X installed.
# 33 Re: os9 compatibality?
I'm sorry it didn't work for you. I really thought that would do the trick. Whenyou disabled the iPod FW enabler extension, was it the "iPod" one? The reason I'm asking is that even though mine is disabled, I still have an extension "active' that says FireWire enabler
Another thing I just remembered is that when I tried to install the software that came with the iPod, Iwasn't able to do it. All the software on the included CD, iTunes 4 and another piece of software (iPod software ..updater) was made for Os X. I went to this page http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120198 and downloaded this piece of software because its suppose to run on 9.2. What do you think?
# 34 Re: os9 compatibality?
As I recall, the firewire extension that I tried disabling said nothing about being specifically an "iPod firewire." I really don't recall seeing anything like that in my extensions folder. Maybe that's the problem. I'll take another look at that tonight, but assuming for the moment that there is nothing specific to ipod in my extensions, what would that mean? Should there be both a firewire extension AND an ipod firewire extension in my extensions folder? If there isn't, is there anything you can think of that I can do about that?
The link that you sent does look promising. I'll check that out this weekend as well.
Thanks!
# 35 Re: os9 compatibality?
Squishy, you totally rule!! You are truly the god of the ipod!!
I just took another look and sure enough there was an ipod firewire extention, I disabled it and problem solved.
Your assistance and patience has been way beyond the call of duty and you are to be commended. Thank you!
# 36 Re: os9 compatibality?
You're welcome! Glad to help. Enjoy your iPod.