Terforma Case Rocks!

you got to be the guy who makes it, 'cause that is the ugliest, most stupid looking thing i ever laid my eyes upon.

Yeah you must be sponsored somehow, I mean wo would pay $50 for a bulky case like this. It ruins the thin sleek design of the iPod in my opinion. To each their own though.

Mike

well it does makes your ipod look like it's worth $50.

i'd rather wrap my ipod with bubble-wrap.
and it's $48.50 or so cheaper + it protects just as well. :P

Originally posted by dinojr
well it does makes your ipod look like it's worth $50.

i'd rather wrap my ipod with bubble-wrap.
and it's $48.50 or so cheaper + it protects just as well. :P

well i would sugest you go right ahead and do that dino, talk about ugly!
jh

yeah, I think that if your ipod was set loose in that case in a room filled with 500other ipods, and they played a slow song, and it was girl pods ask guy pods, your pod would be all alone. In otherwords, that case is ugly

...that website as well, over - complicated, annoyingly so

While I'm not sure I like the look of the case, and hate the website, it would be great if you could post a good review of the case, with lots of up close pictures...that is the only way we can all get a better idea on the case...

Obviously most people don't like the case, but I think we'd all like to see better pictures of it and hear from someone who is using it...

So, show and and tell us what you think about your new case!

T.

Nicely put there John.

You must know that this part of the forums is full of fiercely protective iSkin fanatics (more or less) thus objectivity and a fair debate about the pros and cons about another case is often not possible. Comments could and should be more tactful and considerate of the original poster's feelings and opinion!

Going beyond the "it's ugly" post remains elusive to some. :rolleyes:

Alicia

Originally posted by ginalee
Nicely put there John.

You must know that this part of the forums is full of fiercely protective iSkin fanatics (more or less) thus objectivity and a fair debate about the pros and cons about another case is often not possible. Comments could and should be more tactful and considerate of the original poster's feelings and opinion!

Going beyond the "it's ugly" post remains elusive to some. :rolleyes:

Alicia

I still think it is bulky, I don't see why or how that should hurt somones feelings. Maybe I should have included a winking smiley after I said you must be sponsored ;) It was a joke, some people are over sensitive. I also don't see why the fact that I own several iSkins biases my opinion. I have a DLO Action Jacket that I use for the gym and it has an arm band, it's made of neoprene, and the plastic protects the screen while allowing for through case usage. It works great, however, I find it is bulky as well, for day to day use. As for this case I just don't see why it is the best case for the active iPod user. Maybe if the review sighted clear advantages over other cases, and why it is worth the $50 other then the fact that you are protecting your investment (which is a given because you bought a case in the first place). Like I said to each their own, there is a market for everything, and you are part of the market for this product, now let us know why we should be.

Mike

Sorry about the trashing, but i just had to make this tacky montage...

Originally posted by SlutMonkey
Sorry about the trashing, but i just had to make this tacky montage...
how terribly creative of you. tacky no, i loved it but think of how much better you would do in school if you directed your energies to your studies!
OR to designing a case that is better and prettier!

Hoving, no offense, but that thing just sucks. I keep going back to the site to give it another look. And I originally went in with an open mind, giving it the benefit of the doubt. But it ruins the look of the iPod and honestly I would be worried about screen scratches more than anything. Don't take offense to everyone, it's all opinion. Being a new iPoder, I'm looking for a case myself and I definitely like the iSkin and the Vaja cases. They look good and apparently do a good job from everything I hear.

hoving, you are taking this WAY too personally. And I mean personally. I watched this thread from the beginning; you're not defending what you think is a good product, you are attacking people because they don't like it...I don't recall anyone attacking you. Are people not allowed to disagree with you without you calling them idiots??

The first posts suggesting you were the creator of the thing were not entirely off the wall, I think, because that first post you made sure as hell was written like a press release or something. So apparently the design of the case doesn't appeal to everyone...just stop taking it so personally! If you really still thought it was a great case after those posts and wanted to respond to them, a better way would have been, "No, I'm not the creator or an advertiser...I just think it's a great case. And if you don't, well, that's your loss." How can someone get so offended because of a CASE? Jeez...this whole thread has been like 10-year-olds fighting over whose transformer is cooler.

EDIT: vanillamike beat me to it...typing at the same time ;)

Question...how does that case protect *better*, or even as good as iPodArmor? ( http://www.allabouttheaccessories.com/product.asp?itemid=88&catid=47)

As can be seen from my previous post, repetitive "ugly" posts are an easy way out, but not at all constructive.

Slutmonkey, while I appreciate your comments (especially the kindergarden part), I do think that it's wrong to talk about a general consensus about the aesthetics of a certain case.

John, please resist the temptation to call people idiots in future - it's one of my pet peeves. An acknowledgement from you that this was the wrong reaction is in order.

All others - kindly not give new ipodloungers a hard time. They are not yet aware of how the forums work and what kind of posts can be expected and may react sensitively when critisized.

In my opinion the original poster's reaction was understandable, although not tolerable.

Alicia

Originally posted by mrogers
hoving, you are taking this WAY too personally. And I mean personally. I watched this thread from the beginning; you're not defending what you think is a good product, you are attacking people because they don't like it...I don't recall anyone attacking you. Are people not allowed to disagree with you without you calling them idiots??

The first posts suggesting you were the creator of the thing were not entirely off the wall, I think, because that first post you made sure as hell was written like a press release or something. So apparently the design of the case doesn't appeal to everyone...just stop taking it so personally! If you really still thought it was a great case after those posts and wanted to respond to them, a better way would have been, "No, I'm not the creator or an advertiser...I just think it's a great case. And if you don't, well, that's your loss." How can someone get so offended because of a CASE? Jeez...this whole thread has been like 10-year-olds fighting over whose transformer is cooler.

EDIT: vanillamike beat me to it...typing at the same time ;)
Thank you for your inspiring words. I will in the future adjust my writing style and level enthusiasm for a product I find to be beneficial. After this experience it makes me wonder why anyone would want any part of a forum that is so biased and closed to exploring the experience of others. And as far as taking this personally, really not the case. Perhaps if it was my design I may have, but since this is not the ?case? my reaction may have been simply shock at the attitudes of people who responded to my post. All the best.

Originally posted by ginalee
As can be seen from my previous post, repetitive "ugly" posts are an easy way out, but not at all constructive.

Slutmonkey, while I appreciate your comments (especially the kindergarden part), I do think that it's wrong to talk about a general consensus about the aesthetics of a certain case.

John, please resist the temptation to call people idiots in future - it's one of my pet peeves. An acknowledgement from you that this was the wrong reaction is in order.

All others - kindly not give new ipodloungers a hard time. They are not yet aware of how the forums work and what kind of posts can be expected and may react sensitively when critisized.

In my opinion the original poster's reaction was understandable, although not tolerable.

Alicia

Sorry

Alicia

Originally posted by hoving
After this experience it makes me wonder why anyone would want any part of a forum that is so biased and closed to exploring the experience of others.

John, really sorry this had to be one of your first impressions of the forum.

It's true that things can get emotional here sometimes - topics are subject to heated debate and sparks do sometimes fly.

Nevertheless - I dare say that most ipodloungers are enjoy these forums because of the chance it gives us to express ourselves about the ipod and to share experiences.

Especially the mods try to keep things at a high, respectful and friendly level.

You will hopefully witness this for yourself :p

Originally posted by Spoonman
That does not tell me how an open molded rubber case is going to protect an iPod from harm, better then a fully aluminium case, floating between layers of form for shock absorption...you even can fall on this case and according to the people who make the case, the iPod will not be harmed in any way.

I personally don't use my iPod in any way that would need this level of protection, I just ordered 2 iSkins from Lajo and I'm sure they'll be more then enough protection for my daily activities. If I did need the "ultimate in protection" for my iPod, I would more then likely go with the armor case, that thing looks like it could take a beating

I have both cases and found the ISLEEVE to be A. lighter, B. one can access controls, and c. unlike the aluminum case, which by the way has a very thin membrane surrounding the product, it has a built in clip and storage area for headphones, in addition o the hand grip which hides away when not in use, not to mention the abilty to wear the ipod much like a watch while running eliminating the need for the seperate remote, one can simply use their fingers.

Having said that I like the armor, however, there are many things I do not like about it. you cannot charge it with out taking it out of the case, these were designed for the first generation ipods and the manufacter has done very little to improve on the original design. what they have done is send you, if you call them, a new peice of thin foam to stick in the armor to make your new ipod fit better. I think the case is a little on the tinny side, it's hidges are loose and wiggle and I see no purpose for the faux design on the front. is it strong yes, will it withstand a fall, sure no problem. I have experienced falls with both cases.

Having said all this I wish you the best with our iskins and hope you have many ha[ppy years with your new ipod!

For those of you who wish to decide for themselves, just call us and mention HOVING.

Originally posted by terforma
For those of you who wish to decide for themselves, just call us and mention HOVING.

By the way... just a quick tip: when it comes to eCommerce sites, there's no faster way to alienate your customers than to make a flash website without an HTML alternative. Just a thought.

And in regards to the flash website itself - a lot of the text is blurry and hard to read. You should also avoid mystery meat navigation (http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/mysterymeatnavigation.html) when possible. It poses some usability issues which is makes it really easy to miss some of the key features of your product.

Sorry for that topic hijacking. Okay... back to the topic.

Originally posted by terforma
For those of you who wish to decide for themselves, just call us and mention HOVING.

I do not really understand what the point of this post was. If it is actually terfoma posting why not introduce yourself and defend your product. Why would we mention HOVING? to get some kind of discount? I just find it odd to come on here in the middle of this thread with some obscure phrase. At least when Lajo from iSkin, and the person from Marware came on here they had something worth while to say, and answered questions people might have. Are you here to be accountable for your design or just to tell the majority of poeple that they don't "decide for themselves" which case is right for them.

To get the ball rolling I will ask why it is that the case does not protect the face of the iPod? and is there any type of sleeve (thin plastic or something) that you might develope to address this concern?

Mike

Originally posted by vanillamike
I do not really understand what the point of this post was. If it is actually terfoma posting why not introduce yourself and defend your product. Why would we mention HOVING? to get some kind of discount? I just find it odd to come on here in the middle of this thread with some obscure phrase. At least when Lajo from iSkin, and the person from Marware came on here they had something worth while to say, and answered questions people might have. Are you here to be accountable for your design or just to tell the majority of poeple that they don't "decide for themselves" which case is right for them.

To get the ball rolling I will ask why it is that the case does not protect the face of the iPod? and is there any type of sleeve (thin plastic or something) that you might develope to address this concern?

Mike
I'm not sur ewhat the the question is? Are you asking if I am terforma, the answer then would be no. I am a producer in NYC and have no affliation with anybody or anything that designs or manufactures anything related to the IPOD.

the original point of the post was as I have said many times was to share what I thought was a good product, period end of story.

as to your question of why the case was not designed with protection for the face, well i can only say that I THINK, I DO NOT KNOW BECAUSE I AM NOT THE DESIGNER, that it does protect the face by virually surrounding the unit with the rubber armor. I have dropped the unit while waking the dogs and the face was not damaged, primarilly because the case prevents it from happening. I would suggest that if your curious you could try one and if you dont like it well just return it....

Originally posted by shermanash
hoving, vanilla mike was mentioning user "terforma"'s first post on page 3 that wasn't clear, not you. just some advice, before you reply, take 20 deep breaths, wait 5 minutes sipping coffee coolatta, and reply. it will help ;)

Thanks for your zen like advice, but it was directed to me as I received an email indicating that someone had replied to a post of mine. If it had been directed at terforma they would ahve received the email, no?

did i respond too quickly for ya?

Im breathing Im breathing im breathing AND,

listening to my IPOD in my ugly case!!!

:)

Originally posted by hoving
I have dropped the unit while waking the dogs and the face was not damaged, primarilly because the case prevents it from happening. I would suggest that if your curious you could try one and if you dont like it well just return it....

OK, fine if you drop it on a flat concrete/asphault surface. But what if it's anything other than an even surface? Any uneven plane or set of stairs or a trail or countless other things could cause the fall to be protected by the protruding rubber but the screen could still get damaged badly.

This might be a dumb analogy, but it was the first thing to come to mind. Look at professional hockey players. They wear a CCM or Bauer or Nike helmet, that is very protective when it comes to the overall head. However, the face is left wide open. They can take a lot of hits where the helmet protects everything very well. But if the butt end of a stick or someone else's shoulder pad hits you in the nose or teeth, it's not enough. Whereas, if you were to wear a 1/2 visor or full face mask, the protection is sufficient. I know, now some people are going to show me the flaws in this analogy, but I'm trying to back up the need for frontal protection here.

Originally posted by hoving
Thanks for your zen like advice, but it was directed to me as I received an email indicating that someone had replied to a post of mine. If it had been directed at terforma they would ahve received the email, no?

did i respond too quickly for ya?

Im breathing Im breathing im breathing AND,

listening to my IPOD in my ugly case!!!

:)

hoving, this is called an online discussion forum. When you have subscribed to a thread, you will get an email every time someone replies to that thread...there are no "directed" replies in a thread, so vanillamike was NOT replying to you, and he even quoted terforma in his post. So yes, I think you DO nead to take some time and THINK before you reply.

That said, I also thought terforma's post was strange. It didn't make any sense. If it is the manufacturer of the case, it certainly would be nice if they introduced themselves. On the other hand, it could just be hoving with a different username... ;)

Originally posted by mrogers
hoving, this is called an online discussion forum. When you have subscribed to a thread, you will get an email every time someone replies to that thread...there are no "directed" replies in a thread, so vanillamike was NOT replying to you, and he even quoted terforma in his post. So yes, I think you DO nead to take some time and THINK before you reply.

That said, I also thought terforma's post was strange. It didn't make any sense. If it is the manufacturer of the case, it certainly would be nice if they introduced themselves. On the other hand, it could just be hoving with a different username... ;)
thanks for the advice and the continued speculation!
:p

Originally posted by ceb900s
OK, fine if you drop it on a flat concrete/asphault surface. But what if it's anything other than an even surface? Any uneven plane or set of stairs or a trail or countless other things could cause the fall to be protected by the protruding rubber but the screen could still get damaged badly.

This might be a dumb analogy, but it was the first thing to come to mind. Look at professional hockey players. They wear a CCM or Bauer or Nike helmet, that is very protective when it comes to the overall head. However, the face is left wide open. They can take a lot of hits where the helmet protects everything very well. But if the butt end of a stick or someone else's shoulder pad hits you in the nose or teeth, it's not enough. Whereas, if you were to wear a 1/2 visor or full face mask, the protection is sufficient. I know, now some people are going to show me the flaws in this analogy, but I'm trying to back up the need for frontal protection here.

I think you are correct on an unevern surface, a trail filled with rocks the face of the unit will be susceptable to damage. The only case that would protect it from that would be the aluminum armor case, which does an outstanding job as well. I'm not sure what classification of design, good , bad, "ugly" or pretty, our resident asthetic police would put it in but if one is looking at the ability to withstand falls and protection of ones face then tnhis would be the case to go with.
:cool:

Dang, that case really IS ugly. It totally ruins the ipod's sleek lines.

IMO the name "iSleeve" is fake marketing since it makes it sound it's actually thin (at least not bulky). "iSafe" would be a better name.

I think we have just about done the ugly thing one two many times at this point. One would have thought that there might be some other more intelligent comments out there other than "its ugly".

You know come to think of it thinking this whole thing over, all of the negativity and all, I rather think that those things, the iskins or as I like to call them Ipod condom's are much "uglier" than my beloved Isleeve. Everyone seems so crazy about these condoms and they provides virtually only scratch resistant coverage for the ipod. And talk about hiding the beautiful design of the Ipod inside a colorful, ulterthin condom!
Oh well, I?m sure I?ll hear form all the Ipod condom lovers out there after this little thought and transgression on holy ground!

i pushed it? I simply gave my opinion on the ipod condom! I noted that all they are good for is scratch resistancy protection which you noted.
I could really care less about scratches, Im just not that fastidious or obsessive compulsive about things like that.

I worry more about drops which the iskin provides no protection whatsoever and the armor and isleeve do. The design is always going to be there, hidden only temporailly while being used for sport activity. The wonderful sleek design is exhibited while my ipod sits in the docking station or its little slot in the i motion altec speaker accessory I just got and without insulting anybody's precious opinion about other speaker systems I think this is the best one on the market for the ipod and wholly endorse this wonderful new product!

Originally posted by hoving
So Slut, you are talking from experience here now? You actually went out and bought one so you actually have precise facts and fiqures as to the dimensions of the case. Wonderful that you went to the trouble of doing the research and sharing ot with the forum.;)

Hmm, last time I checked, when people preface their posts with "IMO" it's not as though they are stating "HERE ARE ALL OF THE FACTS BASED ON PROVEN RESEARCH." Relax man, people are allowed to have differing opinions, it doesn't make either of you right or wrong. I think you're being overly defensive. Sure, a lot of people here don't agree with your opinion on the Terforma case, but they're only attacking it's design/functionality, not YOU.

You, on the other hand, seem to take out your frustrations on the people who happen to disagree/endorse other products. Perhaps it's time to stop being so defensive over our cases, everyone?

You like the Terforma case, and it works for you. So why do you care what anyone else has to say about it? I don' t know about you, but if I was pleased with a product, and other people didn't "see the light" as it were... well I'd be happy. Less people catching a ride on MY gravy train, yes? No need to get defensive or lash out... just agree to disagree and be happy with your product, isn't that what all these choices are about?

As for the others, I believe they are justified in being a bit skeptical of the Terforma sleeve's design. If a product is touting total-protection, yet leaves vital areas completely uncovered and unshielded for damage, I don't think it's really living up to it's claims.

As to how ugly each individual case is, well that's in the eye of the beholder. But perhaps we shouldn't start a playground war over "your iPod case is uglier than mine!" because all it does is make EVERYONE involved sound incredibly childish.

Heck, this thread is still going after all this time? I only replied because I was so shocked. Who knew such petty arguments had staying power? I think everyone should take a 5 minute time out and listen to their iPods. Remember, pods UNITE... not start flame wars. :D

Stop flaming and post some pictures for gawds sake.

Originally posted by SlutMonkey
If you want to talk about doing research, please note that there are probably 30 (or more) posts on this thread that mention that the iSleeve is ugly. If you've been to college, you'll know that 30 samples is enough for a random sample allowing for statistical validity... In other words: it cannot be statistically rejected that the iSleeve is NOT ugly.

My dear SLUT,
you seemed to have missed the point here. You were discussing in a post the girth, bulkiness and commenting on the overall dimensions of the isleeve NOT the overall appearance and whether or not it is ugly by your standards of what is good looking. I think we all know your opinion on that.

What I found most impressive about your post was your abilty to make these statements without ever having handled let alone actually seen the product.

Since it appears I am the only one that has actually seen, used and handled it I would logically be in a better position to make comments on the dimensions of the product. I also might note here that I have owned several differant cases including the Ipod condom.
Since I have done my homework and research with actual product and in my "PERSONAL" opinion, the isleeve adds little dimension and weight to the ipod, not to mention bringing othere added benifits. I grant you not as much as one of the beloved condoms but again the isleeve is used for a diffeant purpose.

As to your empirical findings, 30 would be a stretch, there have been repeated comments by the same folks over and over again. The question is not whether or not the case is pretty or ugly but does it do the job it was designed to do. I contend that it does and since I appear agaion to be the only person who has one and has used one, it would be logical to assume that I would have a little lattitude over what others are speculating about.

Unless ofcourse you would like to get one and do your own research. You could then after you had finished our studies sell it on ebay.

Originally posted by prototypechild
Hmm, last time I checked, when people preface their posts with "IMO" it's not as though they are stating "HERE ARE ALL OF THE FACTS BASED ON PROVEN RESEARCH." Relax man, people are allowed to have differing opinions, it doesn't make either of you right or wrong. I think you're being overly defensive. Sure, a lot of people here don't agree with your opinion on the Terforma case, but they're only attacking it's design/functionality, not YOU.

I do not beleive anyone is attacking me and I am sorry if you are given that impression. I am merely standing up fo rmy opinion and my right to have one.

You, on the other hand, seem to take out your frustrations on the people who happen to disagree/endorse other products. Perhaps it's time to stop being so defensive over our cases, everyone?

It's so nice to have an analyst aboard now! Again I think people are merely standing up for there own belief systems here. It strikes me somewhat funny that Ipod condom users would in the first place venture into a thread that is discussing a case that they have already predetermined to be ugly. It would then be logical to assume that the reason they would venture in to the thread would be to do just what it is their doing, putting down something they have never seen or touched.

You like the Terforma case, and it works for you. So why do you care what anyone else has to say about it?
I don't, again I merely am staing the facts as I see them and the fact is that it is a good case and I made a post only to have some opinioned forum members eneter into a discusion on the esthetics of the product which to me is secondary to all of this. I am mainly concerned about function. Does the product do what it was desgined to do, the answer is yes it does. Are people going to find this particular design offensive, yes they will, are people going to find this design good looking yes they most certainly will!

I don' t know about you, but if I was pleased with a product, and other people didn't "see the light" as it were... well I'd be happy. Less people catching a ride on MY gravy train, yes? No need to get defensive or lash out... just agree to disagree and be happy with your product, isn't that what all these choices are about?

Dr. Phil could not have said it better!

As for the others, I believe they are justified in being a bit skeptical of the Terforma sleeve's design. If a product is touting total-protection, yet leaves vital areas completely uncovered and unshielded for damage, I don't think it's really living up to it's claims.

I can not address this as I am not the designer, should those that care to do so I think they are listed.

As to how ugly each individual case is, well that's in the eye of the beholder. But perhaps we shouldn't start a playground war over "your iPod case is uglier than mine!" because all it does is make EVERYONE involved sound incredibly childish.

your right about that my friend!

Heck, this thread is still going after all this time? I only replied because I was so shocked. Who knew such petty arguments had staying power? I think everyone should take a 5 minute time out and listen to their iPods. Remember, pods UNITE... not start flame wars. :D :p

thanks for the thoughts and your time to join the discussion!
:cool:

Originally posted by hoving
Unless ofcourse you would like to get one and do your own research. You could then after you had finished our studies sell it on ebay.

Sorry, but for me, it's not worth ruining my week old iPod. It would be easy to put your Terforma iSafe on and drop it on a set of concrete stairs for example, but then I might be out $400. I'll just keep my own opinion, as you will yours.

By "iPod condom" do you mean you actually have an iSkin? Can you possibly post some pictures comparing the two. So far, the pictures on the Terforma site tell very little and it's looks very bulky in my opinion. Plus some of them are just 3D renderings, not actual photos.

I have an iSkin. In my experience, it does more than protect the iPod from scratches. I have dropped my iPod in this case and nothing happened and nothing was damaged.

I know you want people to buy these cases and find out for themselves... but $50 is really steep. Sure I could return it... but who wants to go through the trouble? Plus, there is a lack of objective feedback regarding this case.

Originally posted by RenaissanceGirl
By "iPod condom" do you mean you actually have an iSkin? Can you possibly post some pictures comparing the two. So far, the pictures on the Terforma site tell very little and it's looks very bulky in my opinion. Plus some of them are just 3D renderings, not actual photos.

I have an iSkin. In my experience, it does more than protect the iPod from scratches. I have dropped my iPod in this case and nothing happened and nothing was damaged.

I know you want people to buy these cases and find out for themselves... but $50 is really steep. Sure I could return it... but who wants to go through the trouble? Plus, there is a lack of objective feedback regarding this case.

sold the condom long ago while i had my first genie ipod, sorry. and all i can say is you were lucky whenyou dropped it cause the skin does not offer that much protection. But as I recall you as a climber/trailer active type would be better off with the armor, no?
happy halloween!
and ps i really dont care if people buy em or not, all i was trting to point out was if people are going to critize something they should do so with facts not based on conjecture.:p

Originally posted by hoving
actually i did start a thread and what happen was i got a lot of condom users with a lot of neagative comments about an opinion of mine.

True dat man... Sorry... :)

Newspaper articles might be nice, but I seriously prefer reading about any accessory on a community website where hundreds of users scrutinize, criticize or praise the goods at hand. I'm not talking about the iSleeve, but about any product... If it's iPod-related, a community website like iPodlounge is just priceless concerning real-world experience, advice and knowledge...

hey new 'condom' for active people. xskn! what now hoving!

Originally posted by SlutMonkey
True dat man... Sorry... :)

Newspaper articles might be nice, but I seriously prefer reading about any accessory on a community website where hundreds of users scrutinize, criticize or praise the goods at hand. I'm not talking about the iSleeve, but about any product... If it's iPod-related, a community website like iPodlounge is just priceless concerning real-world experience, advice and knowledge...
fair enough!:cool:

Originally posted by wunderdave
Hoving,

I find you attitude in dealing with this thread "ugly" as so many have put it. On top of this, I find that not only do the "iCondoms" offer sufficient protection, they also allow enough sensation through to allow my ipod experience to climax with only one or two playlist shifts, even if I'm drunk!!

I'm sure if the iSleeve were a condom it would come in a RED box... but I have no experience to base this on. It's probably a decent product.

Protection both from falls and scratches is nice. But I once dropped the bare iPod on concrete and it survived, with no molded rubber or silicon case. Amazing!

Wunderdave

WOW Ugly, really, well, sorry this has disturbed you.

My attitude is to be direct and if that offends you I don?t know what to say. Every one has the right to express themselves. This thread and your comments to me are no exception and I bear no grudge against you or any body else who responds.

Unfortunately the written communication form does not accurately reflect one?s attitude personality or demeanor. If being direct and standing up for ones comments and experience with a product makes one ugly, well, I don?t know what to say about that either! I suppose you have the option of opting out.
:cool:

Originally posted by rice mac
John.

I've had a quick read through the thread and was wondering if you could post some pictures. I would like to see it compared with another case (such as the Armour or even the original Apple supplied case if you have access to them).
Something similiar to these images ...
http://homepage.mac.com/father_fisheye/.Pictures/iPod%20Armour%20pics/DSC00161.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/father_fisheye/.Pictures/iPod%20Armour%20pics/DSC00209.jpg
I will try to do this at some point when I have some spare time.:cool:

I just got my Electra and Ice iSkins today and I love them...imo they are the perfect case for someone who's lookin for a pocketable case, and only needs medium protection...won't save your pod if you drop it, but keeps is scratch free and lookin good :D

Haiz....what a bad welcome to ipodlounge to hoving.....i still remember the good old days.....