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T-shirt status

Did ipodlounge ever decide on making some T-shirts?
Just wondering!
[76 byte] By [ToddW] at [2007-11-9 14:58:45]
# 1 Re: T-shirt status
Me too.
Timmy Yak at 2007-11-15 18:25:26 >
# 2 Re: T-shirt status
Proposed design is to be silkscreened onto a grey tshirt.
Your opinions welcomed.
iLounger at 2007-11-15 18:26:21 >
# 3 Re: T-shirt status
almost as cool as bob?s design! we should have both. on classic ipodlounge t and an artwork t.
m.r.m. at 2007-11-15 18:27:19 >
# 4 Re: T-shirt status
WHere do I order? :cool:
SpideyPod at 2007-11-15 18:28:25 >
# 5 Re: T-shirt status
I like...
shottagyal at 2007-11-15 18:29:24 >
# 6 Re: T-shirt status
I want a 'classic' iPod version though...
MikeM at 2007-11-15 18:30:23 >
# 7 Re: T-shirt status
how much?
CoolKidd at 2007-11-15 18:31:27 >
# 8 Re: T-shirt status
Are you accepting idea submissions?

Either way, here's mine.
MikeM at 2007-11-15 18:32:25 >
# 9 Re: T-shirt status
Hey, that's my La-Z-Boy........:D
Bob at 2007-11-15 18:33:33 >
# 10 Re: T-shirt status
I'll take both designs in T-shirts, mousepad, matching his-N-her's coffee mugs and car sticker.

:p
ginalee at 2007-11-15 18:34:34 >
# 11 Re: T-shirt status
Good job MikeM, that is pretty sweet also.
SpideyPod at 2007-11-15 18:35:27 >
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How about something minimalist--like a big ipod (It would have to be a gen3 though) on a grey-t-shirt (or grey or orange, if you wanted to do the lounge color scheme, heck, then you might sell twice as many) , with a now playing screen, with the battery level, just like the regular screen--
song title could be Ipodlounge, underneath it could be www.ipodlounge.com, as album title; you could put something else in there as there are three lines if you're a purist (song/artist/album), and then underneath that 5 stars...

I have no graphic skills, so no fancy pictures, but I think that'd be kinda cool...

And if you really wanted to be abusive, you could put another ipod website on an ipod on the back, and give it one star...(Ok, just kidding on the last part).
dmt1 at 2007-11-15 18:36:36 >
# 13 Re: T-shirt status
MikeM-
that depiction is perfect!
Both of those designs are great, i'd be proud to where either of them! :D
tao at 2007-11-15 18:37:32 >
# 14 Re: T-shirt status
Very cool t-shirts :)
Aspect at 2007-11-15 18:38:38 >
# 15 Re: T-shirt status
I like dmt1's thoughts on a minimalist idea- something a little more subtle than the other t-shirt ideas but still advertises both the lounge and the iPod.
mikey at 2007-11-15 18:39:41 >
# 16 Re: T-shirt status
on the grey tshirt...
iLounger at 2007-11-15 18:40:40 >
# 17 Re: T-shirt status
on black tshirt...
iLounger at 2007-11-15 18:41:37 >
# 18 Re: T-shirt status
yes I can illustrate the 1G/2G iPod for a tshirt as well... i like the lounge chair idea... nice.
iLounger at 2007-11-15 18:42:42 >
# 19 Re: T-shirt status
also...
iLounger at 2007-11-15 18:43:40 >
# 20 Re: T-shirt status
another design on black...
iLounger at 2007-11-15 18:44:42 >
# 21 Re: T-shirt status
My suggestion:-
Bob at 2007-11-15 18:45:43 >
# 22 Re: T-shirt status
You can start your own line of clothing with all these design's.
"Lounge Wear"
SpideyPod at 2007-11-15 18:46:42 >
# 23 Re: T-shirt status
I'll take a 3G on grey in a large please. :D
tao at 2007-11-15 18:47:42 >
# 24 Re: T-shirt status
Another idea - colours may need refining (sorry Dennis, borrowed your t-shirt)
Bob at 2007-11-15 18:48:42 >
# 25 Re: T-shirt status
Originally posted by MadPict
My suggestion:-

I like all of these!

The stripe is a cool idea but would probably cost waaay too much.
MikeM at 2007-11-15 18:49:47 >
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Dennis,

All the designs look great. I would buy any of them. Great job!
ToddW at 2007-11-15 18:50:42 >
# 27 Re: T-shirt status
Looking at some of the new silhouettes one or two looked familiar -
Bob at 2007-11-15 18:51:48 >
# 28 Re: T-shirt status
I think I like this one the best:
Timmy Yak at 2007-11-15 18:52:53 >
# 29 Re: T-shirt status
So when can we order? :D
SpideyPod at 2007-11-15 18:53:49 >
# 30 Re: T-shirt status
I'm looking into quotes on silkscreening the first batch of tshirts. I'll post as soon as there is more news.
iLounger at 2007-11-15 18:54:51 >
# 31 Re: T-shirt status
The arm+iPod design has been ordered in limited quanities for the first batch of tshirts to test the market. Shirts will be available for sale in about 2 weeks. Look for an announcement on the homepage.
iLounger at 2007-11-15 18:55:51 >
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Very sweet!!! Will it be posted on the news page when available?
SpideyPod at 2007-11-15 18:56:49 >
# 33 Re: T-shirt status
outstanding! is it on the grey shirt? [crosses fingers]
tao at 2007-11-15 18:57:51 >
# 34 Re: T-shirt status
Yes, as seen at the top of this thread:
http://ipodlounge.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=12325&perpage=15&pagenumber=2
iLounger at 2007-11-15 18:58:55 >
# 35 Re: T-shirt status
Cool, sign me up when the grey shirt is released. I want one of those.
zelig2 at 2007-11-15 18:59:56 >
# 36 Re: T-shirt status
Sign me up as well Dennis!!!! :D
ashawley at 2007-11-15 19:00:57 >
# 37 Re: T-shirt status
Those are going to go like hotcakes!
ToddW at 2007-11-15 19:02:00 >
# 38 Re: T-shirt status
I would like a medium. :)
Timmy Yak at 2007-11-15 19:03:03 >
# 39 Re: T-shirt status
Originally posted by MadPict
Another idea - colours may need refining (sorry Dennis, borrowed your t-shirt)

http://ipodlounge.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=77349

Took me a while to figure out what that was...Upon further review it appears to be an earbud, but when I first saw it it, for the life of me, I thought it was a spermatid--but it left me wondering whose it was, and how did it get there...

Personally the grey shirt, no arm, ipod on the front is my favorite--but I'd still vote for something with a large ipod, with ipodlounge on the screen with the 5 stars...

And don't let Timmy fool ya'--he needs a small.
dmt1 at 2007-11-15 19:04:03 >
# 40 Re: T-shirt status
Chris,
You crack me up - :D
The reasoning behind the 'earbud design' or Borg Sperm was the first thing that helps you recognise a fellow iPod owner is invariably the sight of the Apple Earbuds in their ears. Even if you use another make of earphone, the earbuds are instantly recognisable, so they almost are an icon on their own. Hence the idea of using it as a design - just the earbud. Also, the earbud has remained the same across the 3 generations of iPod.
Maybe your screen idea on the back of the t-shirt would go well with the earbud - the screen is the same across all 3 gens as well...
Bob at 2007-11-15 19:05:05 >
# 41 Re: T-shirt status
Oh--one more thing--if we had a big ol' ipod with ipod lounge on the screen on the front of the Tshirt, we could have the BACK of the ipod on the back of the shirt, and we could have ipodlounge engraved on it or something...How cool would that be?
dmt1 at 2007-11-15 19:05:58 >
# 42 Re: T-shirt status
Hey good idea dmt1! I might work on that, but I know reproducing a photograph would be expensive... but a nice vector drawing might be cool too.
iLounger at 2007-11-15 19:07:03 >
# 43 Re: T-shirt status
Just for Chris...
Bob at 2007-11-15 19:08:08 >
# 44 Re: T-shirt status
...and I realise they'd be expensive, but no harm in seeing how they'd look is there?
Bob at 2007-11-15 19:09:08 >
# 45 Re: T-shirt status
Oh YEAH!! Loving that--and I'd pay for it, even if it was extra...Whadda think of like a light orange T-shirt (Would stay with the lounge color scheme, or light Gray (May not be enough contrast on grey though).

May be too expensive, but that second set of shirts you made looks pretty darned nice--the size of the ipod is just right--would the graphics you used on the ipod screen on the first T-shirt show up ok on the ipod on the second T-shirt, or would they be too small? I think the first ipod, scaled down to the size of the second set of shirts would be perfect--it may look better without the ipodlounge logo underneath (not sure on that though, the more I look at it the more I like it), if the ipodlounge info was on the ipod itself (although changing the shirt color to grey or orange may help). The back is PERFECT--VERY nice.

May be impossible, but I'd spend a little more dough (How much did my ipod cost?) for that or something similar to it--that would be first on my list of the designs I've seen so far.

Thanks Bob--appreciate you taking the time to make those pics--even if it's too expensive to do in the real world, at least I can salivate over those...

Chris
dmt1 at 2007-11-15 19:10:08 >
# 46 Re: T-shirt status
The reason the iPod is that big was really to show the screen off. It would be fine on quite a small iPod I suppose - the detail is hard to show on images posted here without them being too large a file.

A few minutes with a 'fill-tool' produced these for your further delectation -

The second one is a variation on your screen suggestion - again, a common feature right across the generations of iPod is the screen, so it is as good for a 1G as it is for a 3G!

The orange colour is quite a popular shade at the moment - must be iPodlounge's influence!
Bob at 2007-11-15 19:11:07 >
# 47 Re: T-shirt status
Ok, those top two are even better; personally I like the orange better than the black (Ok, this is going to sound weird, but I'd take the orange shirt, cut out the sleeves off, and have one very cool shirt for working out at the gym, where my ipod is always glued to me...Although I'm liking that shirt enough that I'd probably order two, leave the sleeves on one for lounging [pun intended] around in). One more alteration--replacing the "ipodlounge" below the ipod on the orange shirt with the original Ipodlounge logo you had below the ipod on the black shirts (I realize the orange corner will wash out, but I think it would look better--could be wrong though), and I think I'd have to change my pants...

Hey, thanks again for doing those--it's really looking sweet!

Keep it up, and you'll have invented a T-shirt more expensive than a 40gig ipod...
dmt1 at 2007-11-15 19:12:09 >
# 48 Re: T-shirt status
Originally posted by dmt1

<snip>
(Ok, this is going to sound weird, but I'd take the orange shirt, cut out the sleeves off, and have one very cool shirt for working out at the gym
</snip>

OK Fonzi, whatever you say. :rolleyes: :D ;)

Adam
ashawley at 2007-11-15 19:13:12 >
# 49 Re: T-shirt status
Fonzi? Nah, it's more like Ralph at this stage of my life...
dmt1 at 2007-11-15 19:14:13 >
# 50 Re: T-shirt status
So any news on the T-Shirt front?
SpideyPod at 2007-11-15 19:15:09 >
# 51 Re: T-shirt status
hehe... tshirts have arrived... expect a PayPal shopping cart to appear in the next day or two... we're setting up... announcment will be made on the homepage...
iLounger at 2007-11-15 19:16:11 >
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Good deal. Thanks Dennis. How do they look?
SpideyPod at 2007-11-15 19:17:09 >
# 53 Re: T-shirt status
The orange colour is perfect! It's my favoruite colour and would match great with my Vaja case.
CanaMacPod at 2007-11-15 19:18:19 >
# 54 Re: T-shirt status
would it be possible to personalise the t-shirts (whichever design/s you decide upon) by adding our user names somewhere on the design - as long as they do not add too much expense, or have it as an option.

if you really wanted to be obvious you could do like football shirts and have the name onth back below the neck, but i think a subtle approach would be more appropriate.

anyway the designs look great but please make sure that you will ship them internationally :)
yinyang at 2007-11-15 19:19:11 >
# 55 Re: T-shirt status
Originally posted by yinyang
would it be possible to personalise the t-shirts (whichever design/s you decide upon) by adding our user names somewhere on the design - as long as they do not add too much expense, or have it as an option.

if you really wanted to be obvious you could do like football shirts and have the name onth back below the neck, but i think a subtle approach would be more appropriate.

anyway the designs look great but please make sure that you will ship them internationally :)

Ha!! I was thinking the same thing when this T-Shirt idea first came about.
Not sure if Dennis would be willing to go that extra step. Logistically it may not be possible. But if you really want to do something like that you can go to a local sports shop (not a Modells' or Sports Authority, a mom and pop shop) and they can add whatever name you'd like across the back.

Its funny because this idea came back to me again when I received a T-Shirt unsolicited in the mail from an organization I regularly donate to, The Humane Society of the United States which helps find homes for and end cruelty to animals. I opened up the package to find a T-Shirt that had my full name on the left breast and I immediately thought again of this idea for the Lounge shirt.

It is an interesting idea. Imagine you run into someone wearing the Lounge shirt with their handle across the back. Also a great way to identify yourself as a true geek. ;)
SpideyPod at 2007-11-15 19:20:13 >
# 56 Re: T-shirt status
Originally posted by SpideyPod
It is an interesting idea. Imagine you run into someone wearing the Lounge shirt with their handle across the back. Also a great way to identify yourself as a true geek. ;)

Who are you calling a geek LOL :D

Maybe the name should be placed tastefully in the iPodlounge font at the end of one of the sleeves.

Now if you could somehow or other display the number of posts you currently have on your t-shirt and have it updated regularly, now that would be very impressive (or more geekish LOL!!)
yinyang at 2007-11-15 19:21:17 >
# 57 Re: T-shirt status
Originally posted by yinyang
Who are you calling a geek LOL :D

Maybe the name should be placed tastefully in the iPodlounge font at the end of one of the sleeves.

Now if you could somehow or other display the number of posts you currently have on your t-shirt and have it updated regularly, now that would be very impressive (or more geekish LOL!!)

A bluetooth digital counter that syncs up to the lounge site and updates your post count on your shirt!!
Beyond geek! There isn't even a word for that! lol :p
SpideyPod at 2007-11-15 19:22:13 >
# 58 Re: T-shirt status
I first raised the subject of t-shirts back in May and suggested this design (http://www.ipodlounge.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=77333#post77333) and a Username Embroidery service as well.
I guess we'll see how popular the t-shirts turn out (very, I'm certain!) and other designs may be brought out.
Bob at 2007-11-15 19:23:17 >
# 59 Re: T-shirt status
Originally posted by MadPict
I first raised the subject of t-shirts back in May and suggested this design (http://www.ipodlounge.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=77333#post77333) and a Username Embroidery service as well.
I guess we'll see how popular the t-shirts turn out (very, I'm certain!) and other designs may be brought out.

Good deal Bob! I would love to order a shirt with my handle on it. That would certainly be a first for me and confirm my addiction to this site with my girlfriend! ;)
SpideyPod at 2007-11-15 19:24:19 >
# 60 Re: T-shirt status
Originally posted by SpideyPod
A bluetooth digital counter that syncs up to the lounge site and updates your post count on your shirt!!
Beyond geek! There isn't even a word for that! lol :p

I thought I would let you suggest the bluetooth synching so that it didn't look like I was the geek LOL :D

One could get very lateral and inventive with the possibilities - just look at Burton!

But a good quality, simply tasteful t-shirt will do most of us, so that at least we can remeber who we are for those iPodlounge Anonymous sessions - my username is yinyang and I'm a iPodaholic LOL!!
yinyang at 2007-11-15 19:25:26 >
# 61 Re: T-shirt status
Originally posted by yinyang
I thought I would let you suggest the bluetooth synching so that it didn't look like I was the geek LOL :D


And I walked right into it......

:D
SpideyPod at 2007-11-15 19:26:25 >
# 62 Re: T-shirt status
my favorite
Terry Hardee at 2007-11-15 19:27:21 >
# 63 Re: T-shirt status
Ordered my shirt this morning. Get packing Dennis! ;)

Looks great BTW!!
SpideyPod at 2007-11-15 19:28:25 >
# 64 Re: T-shirt status
Just got finished ordering mine too! Can't wait to get it, and represent :)
tao at 2007-11-15 19:29:30 >
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Sweet! I can't wait for mine.
MikeM at 2007-11-15 19:30:28 >
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And BTW - good choice to list the type of T-Shirt it is, Hanes Beefy. I was able to check through my draw to find a few shirts of the same make in order to make sure I was ordering the right size.

I didn't want to order one and it fit like a Baby Tee on me instead of a Beefy Tee. ;)

XL should do the trick.
SpideyPod at 2007-11-15 19:31:25 >
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Woot! Got mine! Lookin very stylish in Seattle, representin' the 'lounge!

:D :D
c.c.r. at 2007-11-15 19:32:32 >
# 68 Re: T-shirt status
Yep, got mine - iPodlounge in the UK!
Bob at 2007-11-15 19:33:27 >
# 69 Re: T-shirt status
Something tells me the moderators had a bit of a leg up on the rest of us in the ordering process. Just a guess of course...... ;)
SpideyPod at 2007-11-15 19:34:34 >
# 70 Re: T-shirt status
I don't think they ordered at all...

Do the moderator shirts say "I'm a moderator on iPodLounge.com and all I got was this t-shirt." on the back?
MikeM at 2007-11-15 19:35:36 >
# 71 Re: T-shirt status
Originally posted by MikeM
I don't think they ordered at all...

Do the moderator shirts say "I'm a moderator on iPodLounge.com and all I got was this t-shirt." on the back?

LOL! Oy, nope, it doesn't... but now I'm wishin' that it did! :D :D
c.c.r. at 2007-11-15 19:36:29 >
# 72 Re: T-shirt status
Originally posted by MadPict
Yep, got mine - iPodlounge in the UK!

It says that international shipping not available, which i am gutted about (why is shipping outside US such an issue, especially if we are paying for it!?:confused: ), so how did you get yours to UK - i didn't think UK had quite become 51st state yet as it's a close call between UK and Australia.

Or is it just because your an admin - that i can cope with...LOL!

Please Dennis can you ship overseas - keeping Lounge competitions US only is bad enough, but not the t-shirts!
yinyang at 2007-11-15 19:37:38 >
# 73 Re: T-shirt status
That does seem a bit rough especially considering how many forum members are based in the UK.

I am sure you can work something out for these guys. No?
SpideyPod at 2007-11-15 19:38:32 >
# 74 Re: T-shirt status
Just got mine today, right after school. They are lookin good. I'll be representing the 'lounge in Cherry Hill, NJ.
breakaway1029 at 2007-11-15 19:39:36 >
# 75 Re: T-shirt status
Originally posted by yinyang
...i didn't think UK had quite become 51st state yet...

Or is it just because your an admin - that i can cope with...LOL!

Please Dennis can you ship overseas - keeping Lounge competitions US only is bad enough, but not the t-shirts!

?Well, Mr Bush is over having tea with the Queen right now! And Governor Blair is there too!

?Yes.;)

?I am now scared to go out in mine, in case I get mugged - "They just took the shirt off my back Officer, left my wallet and iPod, but took my T-shirt..."
Bob at 2007-11-15 19:40:34 >
# 76 Re: T-shirt status
Originally posted by MadPict
?Well, Mr Bush is over having tea with the Queen right now! And Governor Blair is there too!

?I am now scared to go out in mine, in case I get mugged - "They just took the shirt off my back Officer, left my wallet and iPod, but took my T-shirt..."

soon enough Arnold will take over from Dear Tony, once he has sorted out California, then PC Plod will just go out and shoot the perp that took the shirt off your back.

and i doubt they would have left you the iPod...! :D
yinyang at 2007-11-15 19:41:38 >
# 77 Re: T-shirt status
Well, with 14,000 cops on the streets of London just now the crime figure will drop dramatically - the 700 armed Secret Service agents and Blackhawks flying over Buck Palace will put off tourists for a couple of days. Seems like a good time to go shopping in London!

..and who would want an old original 5GB iPod these days?
Bob at 2007-11-15 19:42:34 >
# 78 Re: T-shirt status
OK, we are working on allowing international orders... it just a question of order fullfillment at this time... getting the shopping cart set up for orders. I'll announce as soon as it is available. While you wait, here's Rocket, the official iPodlounge mascot and spokesmodel ;)
iLounger at 2007-11-15 19:43:35 >
# 79 Re: T-shirt status
that just made my day, great photo.
mikey at 2007-11-15 19:44:36 >
# 80 Re: T-shirt status
COULD THAT BE BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE OF PEOPLE EATING FAST FOOD?
ToddW at 2007-11-15 19:45:43 >
# 81 Re: T-shirt status
That explains the short blonde hairs I found on the inside of my shirt.......
....and why my dog kept sniffing me and following me around!!
Bob at 2007-11-15 19:46:40 >
# 82 Re: T-shirt status
oops had the cap lock on :P
ToddW at 2007-11-15 19:47:45 >
# 83 Re: T-shirt status
Originally posted by MadPict
That explains the short blonde hairs I found on the inside of my shirt.......
....and why my dog kept sniffing me and following me around!!

Ha!

Now we know the identity of 42 on that sticker that says 'Inspected by 42'.
MikeM at 2007-11-15 19:48:43 >
# 84 Re: T-shirt status
Originally posted by stark23x
Wait, does that mean the dog might be the question to the ultimate answer to life, the universe and everything?

I'm so confused.

It's okay, Arthur. The Vogons will be here shortly anyway.
MikeM at 2007-11-15 19:49:50 >
# 85 Re: T-shirt status
Originally posted by iPodlounger
OK, we are working on allowing international orders... it just a question of order fullfillment at this time... getting the shopping cart set up for orders.

Thanks Dennis for being so understanding...LOL! Next though you'll have to allow us to enter the comps ffor free stuff :D

Hope i'll be able to look as good as Rocket in my iPodlounge t-shirt!!

BTW the Vogons have already been and gone because people were too busy listening to their iPods , so never heard the message about the impending demolition of Earth!
yinyang at 2007-11-15 19:50:46 >
# 86 Re: T-shirt status
oh yeah, got mine today! man this shirt kicks ###, all the homies on my block are gonna be sooo jealous lol! looks even better in person, excellent quality.

Thanks ipodlounger :)
tao at 2007-11-15 19:51:52 >
# 87 Re: T-shirt status
Dennis,

got my shirt today looks real good.
ToddW at 2007-11-15 19:52:45 >
# 88 Re: T-shirt status
Got mine too. Excellent!
MikeM at 2007-11-15 19:53:50 >
# 89 Re: T-shirt status
Same here! Excellent job. Can't wait for the next generation!! ;)
SpideyPod at 2007-11-15 19:54:55 >
# 90 Re: T-shirt status
Hate to be repetitive - but I got mine yesterday. Can't wait for summer to wear it!

;-)
ginalee at 2007-11-15 19:55:56 >
# 91 Re: T-shirt status
Summer?! Anywhere that's indoors and heated should be fine.

No weather is going to stop me from proudly wearing my shirt!
MikeM at 2007-11-15 19:56:50 >
# 92 Re: T-shirt status
I wore mine acros NYC today. Just had a long sleeve white shirt underneath. Geek sheek! :D
SpideyPod at 2007-11-15 19:57:56 >
# 93 Re: T-shirt status
Originally posted by ginalee
Hate to be repetitive - but I got mine yesterday. Can't wait for summer to wear it!

;-)

if you move to where there are kangaroos then it's summer enough for you to wear it. actually you can even wear it in winter down here, but i won't do that to you...! LOL :D
yinyang at 2007-11-15 19:58:51 >
# 94 Re: T-shirt status
Very cute yinyang - taunt us europeans with visions of aussie summer temperatures.
ginalee at 2007-11-15 19:59:56 >
# 95 Re: T-shirt status
The T's sound awesome! My money is concurrently going towards iPod gear. Future tee buyer here. :)
IsraeliScouter at 2007-11-15 20:00:57 >
# 96 Re: T-shirt status
Well its been a little over a month since the first orders of the T-Shirt were received and I must say I still love my T-Shirt.
In fact I just ordered another iPod T-Shirt based on the PodKin logo by TroyBoy Designs.

Question I have for iPodLounger is how did you guys do with your T-Shirt sales? Well enough to release another T? And if so how soon and what graphics did you have in mind?

I sincerely hope the answer is yes and soon as I am ready to place my order today.

Thanks,

Spidey
SpideyPod at 2007-11-15 20:02:00 >
# 97 Re: T-shirt status
Wow...some of those t-shirts are really cool. Nice work on the graphics guys. Time to whip the credit card out...
Fahd at 2007-11-15 20:02:59 >
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