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making your v3 ipod into a winpod manually

posted this before in another section.. thought it might be more relevant here. do give your comments..

well i have the new ipod v2(or v3 as some might say... to save on the confusion i'm just gonna call it the dockpod) and being a win98se user, knew from the start that i wouldn't be able to install apple's software.. no biggie, i thought, since i was gonna use ephpod or xplay anyway.

however, after playing around with the unit, i realised that the dockpod came out of the box as a HFS+ formatted macpod, and that the supplied software was *required* to change it to a winpod.

it wasn't really a biggie, as i had xplay installed and thus could read mac-drives once i mounted the pod. even though the current version of xplay doesn't seem to like the dockpod, i could use ephpod to sync the dockpod out of the box.

being a windoze user however, i just didn't like the fact that i had to use a mac-opener software to access my pod, and finally managed to convert it to a winpod without installing apple's software... below is what i did, although i must warn that it *could* possibly screw up your dockpod.. i was afraid of that when i tried it but hey, it worked, so here goes:

1) do a complete format of the ipod to fat32 (though the right-click popup menu in My Computer). Quick format won't work as it is in HFS.

2) after that, the pod just becomes another (very expensive) removable firewire hdd

3) inside the apple software cd, look for the iPodUpdater folder and install the ipod updater 2.0

4) run it... the updater only allows you to restore the ipod, the update option is disabled (for obvious reasons)

5) restore! voila, after it's done, you have a windoze formatted dockpod! now i can sync with ephpod directly without needing a mac-drive reader

just my 2 cents worth to other win98se dockpod users who don't have the interest (or the money) to upgrade to winxp, hope this helps.

WARNING: however, as this is the first time i've done it, and it was entirely a result of my own experimentation, i do recommend that those who are queasy about risking their dockpod just leave it as a HFS+ format pod and use macopener to read it. i'm not gonna make any promises that it'll work all the time

*just a side note though: in the "About" screen on the dockpod, the name of the pod has now become all-uppercase instead of dual case as was the case when it was HFS+ formatted.

i.e. now it reads (IPOD instead of iPod)... sighhhh

at least it now reads format: WINDOWS...
[2677 byte] By [ibons] at [2007-11-9 11:46:13]
# 1 Re: making your v3 ipod into a winpod manually
ibons -

Thanks for info! After getting my 15 gig and using Ephpod on Windows 98SE, I found in 15 or so days, that I needed to buy MacOpener to sync songs again. Not wanting to do that, I followed your instructions and uninstalled/reinstalled Ephpod 2.58. Things work great again. Thanks for your courage in setting this up manually.

For anyone else: ibons steps work great and only took about 5 minutes to do.
ipeddler at 2007-11-15 17:07:06 >
# 2 Re: making your v3 ipod into a winpod manually
Originally posted by ipeddler
ibons -

Thanks for info! After getting my 15 gig and using Ephpod on Windows 98SE, I found in 15 or so days, that I needed to buy MacOpener to sync songs again. Not wanting to do that, I followed your instructions and uninstalled/reinstalled Ephpod 2.58. Things work great again. Thanks for your courage in setting this up manually.

For anyone else: ibons steps work great and only took about 5 minutes to do.

heh.. glad to hear it works for you, but your ipod's name now in ugly uppercase too right? sigh.. oh woe are we windoze users ;)
ibons at 2007-11-15 17:08:07 >
# 3 Re: making your v3 ipod into a winpod manually
Well, yes and no. The only place I see "IPOD" listed is when I right click on the drive and look at the properties. Other than that, my computer calls it removable disk "k" and on the ipod itself it still says "iPod". Either way, I'm just glad I don't have to use MacOpener anymore.

I did noticce that my battery seems a little funky after I did this. However, I haven't really checked it out fully so I'll have to get back to you on that.
ipeddler at 2007-11-15 17:09:16 >
# 4 Re: making your v3 ipod into a winpod manually
Originally posted by ipeddler
Well, yes and no. The only place I see "IPOD" listed is when I right click on the drive and look at the properties. Other than that, my computer calls it removable disk "k" and on the ipod itself it still says "iPod". Either way, I'm just glad I don't have to use MacOpener anymore.

I did noticce that my battery seems a little funky after I did this. However, I haven't really checked it out fully so I'll have to get back to you on that.

hmm it does? wonder if i'm naming my pod wrongly...

well it shouldn't really affect battery life unless fat32 causes the hard disk to be accessed more often.. :(
ibons at 2007-11-15 17:10:10 >
# 5 Re: making your v3 ipod into a winpod manually
Update on the battery thing...

It does not effect the battery or the indicator. I was a dork and left the ipod on play all night long (didn't have the speakers pluged in so I didn't notice it was on play). Just recharged and evrything is a ok.

I looked at all my stuff again but didn't notice "IPOD" anywhere except in the properties. Where did you rename yours?
ipeddler at 2007-11-15 17:11:16 >
# 6 Re: making your v3 ipod into a winpod manually
Originally posted by ipeddler
Update on the battery thing...

It does not effect the battery or the indicator. I was a dork and left the ipod on play all night long (didn't have the speakers pluged in so I didn't notice it was on play). Just recharged and evrything is a ok.

I looked at all my stuff again but didn't notice "IPOD" anywhere except in the properties. Where did you rename yours?

i renamed my iBons in win98, but the ipod shows IBONS all the uppercase when I go to "about"..
ibons at 2007-11-15 17:12:15 >
# 7 Re: making your v3 ipod into a winpod manually
yep. only uppercase for us windowsers.
m.r.m. at 2007-11-15 17:13:19 >
# 8 Re: making your v3 ipod into a winpod manually
I looked in about also and mine is "IPOD". Oh well...no biggie.
ipeddler at 2007-11-15 17:14:22 >
# 9 Re: making your v3 ipod into a winpod manually
Originally posted by ipeddler
I looked in about also and mine is "IPOD". Oh well...no biggie.

yeah, it's just a minor niggle. but am surprised that NFS can support dual case when FAT32 can't though. well that's the way it is i guess.
ibons at 2007-11-15 17:15:20 >
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