Ipod 2.01 updater for Win98 Users

First of all, THANKS! It is great that you figured this out. However, I still can't get it to work. Everytime I run it an error message comes up saying 1155 File Not Found: (and then a bunch of random letters/numbers which is a folder in the Temp folder, however it doesn't show which file it cant find because the folder name is so #### long). Anyone got any suggestions?

Originally posted by b_nightingale99
First of all, THANKS! It is great that you figured this out. However, I still can't get it to work. Everytime I run it an error message comes up saying 1155 File Not Found: (and then a bunch of random letters/numbers which is a folder in the Temp folder, however it doesn't show which file it cant find because the folder name is so #### long). Anyone got any suggestions?

i would venture that you closed the apple installer before running the updater program.. my advise would be to copy the "iPod-for-win-updater-instlr.exe" file into another folder (perhaps your deskop?) *before* closing apple's installer programme as that would automatically remove the file even though it may have showed up in your "find" dialog box.

remember, don't click "next" when you see the "Welcome to the Installshield Wizard for iPod For Windows download installer" window, until you have copied the "iPod-for-win-updater-instlr.exe" file to another directory or it will scream "This Version of Operating System is not supported" at you and close down by itself.

then, you can run the updater-instlr.exe file from whatever directory you copied it to.

hope this works ;)

managed to install the updater ... has anyone got the usb driver working under win98se?

Originally posted by eyez73
managed to install the updater ... has anyone got the usb driver working under win98se?

I got a quick question:
With the usb cable costing $19.00, why not chip in another $10 - $15 and get a firewire card? Plus you get to charge the ipod that way.

But back to your question:
So when you plug your ipod into the connector and then the usb end into the computer, is your ipod mounting? Meaning is it registring as a another harddrive?

If yes, what software are you using to transfer songs?

Oh sorry I'm using Ephpod & XPlay on 2 pc's a XP Home desktop and windows 98se laptop ... both working get with firewire.

Originally posted by eyez73
There is a number of reasons for using usb ...

1) Its my father ipod and he doesn't have a firewire card and only has one pc slot of his laptop which he's using for a network connection and there is usb built into the pc.

2) Also I would like to use the usb cable on my ipod so I can carry it around with me so when I visit friends I don't have to worry if they have firewire cards (very hard to find a pc without usb these days)

Oh also I don't believe the ipod charges from most pcimcia cards on laptops.

As for if I get a drive letter ... I do not just get a ipod usb device in the device manager which can't find a driver.

Is anyone have the ipod installed on usb in Windows ME? maybe they can let me know the driver files its using.

Rich

well it actually doesn't matter where the firewire port is located, because as long as it is the "large" 6 pin type it should be powered and thus able to charge the ipod. it's only the "mini" 4 pin type that isn't powered and thus can't charge, presumably because it's too small to squeeze in two extra pins for power (neutral and live, i'd venture).

as to the usb2 support for ipod in win98se, i've a feeling it'd be pretty tricky as that would involve somehow pulling the ipod usb2 driver out of the setup.exe package and i'm not sure if the installer would give up the driver if you don't run it to the end. however, there's a good chance that it would be compatible as win98 and winme are technically very similar. in fact, it escapes me utterly as to how apple can refuse win98 support when it's still the second most popular version of windows...

perhaps you can ask a friend who has a compatible version of windows to run the setup.exe programme for you to completion, then root around and search for any *.vxd, *.ini or such driver files which might be the usb2 driver and allow the ipod to mount as a removable drive. i don't have the usb2 cable so i'm afraid i can't experiment for this case.

Originally posted by ipeddler
ibons -

Since its a laptop, it more than likely won't charge. The pcimcia cards either 1) don't allow it or 2) its not setup to because they don't want power being sucked out of the batteries. Even when its plugged into an outlet it still won't happen. I don't know the exact technical reasons why, but I've heard many people say it won't work when using a Windows laptop.

As for the USB driver, beats me. Sorry.

hmm i was expecting only the pcimcia cards with the 4 pin connectors not to charge and those with 6 pin connectors to do so. i'm planning to buy a notebook soon with a 6pin firewire port or a 6 pin pcimcia card for use with my ipod so that's rather disappointing news..

that'd mean i'd have to keep plugging my cable in and out of the laptop and charger alternately.. darn, well i guess it can't be helped.

Originally posted by ipeddler
Well you could just buy a new PowerBook (hopefully with the 970 in it) on monday. Rumor has it Apple puts those firewire thing-a-ma-gigs in all their computers. And I do know they charge the ipod when plugged in the wall. :)

hehe i like apple's design and ease of use, but i'm afraid all my fave progs run on the windoze platform... and it'd be quite weird to run my stuff on an emulator. an ipod's gonna be my only apple product for the time being.

Originally posted by ibons
hehe i like apple's design and ease of use, but i'm afraid all my fave progs run on the windoze platform... and it'd be quite weird to run my stuff on an emulator. an ipod's gonna be my only apple product for the time being.

I heard that Apple will be putting the IBM 970 processor in the powerbooks soon. If you have that setup and VirtualPC on OSX, you'll have windows be faster on the mac then it is on your new pc laptop. Only kidding of course, but won't that be something.

I'm getting the new powerbook when the 15" gets upgraded soon. All the programs I use on windows are available for OSX except MS Access. I'm getting VirtualPC for that so no biggie for me.

In a month or so, I won't be visiting the win 98 threads anymore. Well maybe I'll stop in and say hi.

sep - glad you got your stuff working too. Bugs me that Apple doesn't support win 98. We obviously got it to work pretty easily. Oh well.

Originally posted by palmerownz
I have Win98SE installed on my computer and I'm trying to use USB 1.1 just as the manual says it's compatible. I tried running the Apple programme (setup.exe) but I don't get a message to click "next" like other people are. It's going right through the Installshield and prompting me with a picture of the iPod with options to "Install" or "Exit." I've tried searching for the updater file trying to install it multiple ways but I can't ever find the Updater file everyone's talking about.

Hmm, what happens when you try to click on "install"?

Does it allow you to continue on or boot you out, saying your OS is not supported? If so, when you reach the abovementioned screen, do a search on updater in your windows directory and see what happens. Remember to check the correct directory for the file.

It should not matter what interface you are using with your ipod because the updater seems to do the job as long as it has detected the ipod mounted as a removable hard drive.

I managed to install both the original V2 and the 2.0.1 updater with a similar approach. It looks like its only the top-level installer (setup.exe) which is incompatible with win98.

i) V2 (installing a new iPOD) On the iPOD distribution CD search for 'updater' - there is an Exe and the iPOD manager in a BIN directory - works fine under Win98 whereas the Setup.exe doesn't.

ii) As an alternative - if you can run either the original setup or the 2.0.1 updater on another PC which is ME/2000/XP etc but without the iPOD connected - a new iPOD directory is created with the necessary files for the update unpacked. These can then be copied and run on a win98 pc without any problem.

I also experience many of the common problems described in the forum:

* Long delays in responding to buttons when the iPOD was first loading a file to play.
* Skipping to the 2nd or 3rd track in a directory before beginning playing.
* Generally slow browsing response.

These were all cleared by making sure that the music files are distributed between a number of the sub directories F0-F19 on the iPOD - Ephpod is configured to put them all in F) to start, you need to change the options to support F) to F19 and reload your music onto the iPOD.

Right, so that we're all crystal clear on this, even us iPod n00bs:

Running the updater file on Win98SE in the manner described by ibons will not only update the firmware on a Windows-formatted iPod but also convert a factory-fresh Mac-formatted iPod to Windows.

The reason I ask is that you say that "the updater seems to do the job as long as it has detected the ipod mounted as a removable hard drive". I'm displaying my ignorance but surely the OS will only mount the iPod when its been reconfigured for Windows? Or have I misunderstood?

Anyway, thanks a lot for this excellent tip which has saved me yet again from an upgrade to XP (*makes sign of cross*).

Thanks for the confirmation ipeddler :)

I notice that 'setup.exe' writes two executable files to the TEMP folder: 'ipod-for-win-updater-instalr.exe' and 'ipod-for-win-core-instalr.exe'

What does the second one do?

...

Getting my iPod Monday week, can't wait... :)

mintcake -

Beats me on the ipod-for-win-core-instalr.exe. Just use the other one and know everything will be aok.

Originally posted by iBall
How come I keep getting a "Can't mount iPod" error when I open the updater? I can't click update or restore when the updater comes up.

Means your ipod isn't mounted on your computer. If it was, there would be a small icon in the bottom right of your screen (right next to the clock) that has a little grey box looking thing with a green arrow). If you don't have that then your ipod is not hooked to your computer.

Do you have that icon showing? Also, your ipod would display, "Do Not Disconnect" on the screen. Tell us if thats happening.

Anyone else having their playlist vanish when plugging in for a recharge. Not plugged into the computer but just a straight shot from ipod to wall charger?

ipodnewbie - I'm not positive but I think the 1.3 update only allows you to do the AAC files which you can't download anyway on a windows machine. I could be wrong, just throwing that off the top of my head.

questions:

1. Have you ever had it working on that computer?

2. If so, when you connect the ipod to your computer, does a little icon appear in the bottom right hand side of your screen (near your clock) with a green arrow?

3. If so, do you have the approiate software to view data on your ipod (ephpod, etc.)

4. Is this ipod formated for windows or mac?

read questions two - four and get back to me. Also, go hare >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/downloads/contents/wurecommended/s_wufeatured/1394/ and download that so your firewire stuff is up-to-date.

go to the link above and download and install. That should clear your problems away. After install, might have to reboot, then plug in ipod into firewire port. If you still don't see it, check your system to see if firewire card is listed under the device manager. If not, reinstall card.

i'm not completly sure about gen2 ipods but gen3 need windows me to work so that might be your problem. check apple.com's support section.

ibons: (and anyone alse)

I've tried to do the updater process for my 3 gen 30gb iPod - without success. I get to the screen below and when I search for updater - I don't get an iPod updater file ANYWHERE (I have a c: and d: drive). If i select install I get the 'operating system not supported message'

Any further suggestions?:mad:

... another irritated Windows 98 SE user ....

Just for the record, having now installed both a 2G and a 3G ipod under Windows 98SE, the firmware 1.3 updater for 2G will install under Win98 no problem, the firmware 2.01 updater for 3G will not, but if you follow the steps outlined on this thread you'll be fine.

Kottbullar,

I'm not 100% sure but, I think your going to far. The screen image you posted is after you click past the intial setup screen you get when you pop in the CD. Try this: put cd in tray, let it autorun, and wait for the first screen to appear. It should be a installer window, not the window you have posted. Then do your search for "updater" on the c: drive. It's definitely there because I've done this on three different ipods/win 98 systems.

When you find it, copy it to your desktop (not the icon but the actual file). Then eject the CD and double click on the icon you made on the desktop. That installs the stuff onto your computer and then you'll be able to download the 2.01 version. If this doesn't help, I'm not sure what to tell you.

Seem to have lost the image on that last message -- here it is.

ipeddler: the screen shot I posted previously is the ONLY prompt I get -- other than to choose english as my language, so i'm pretty certain i didn't go too far.

i'm glad to know you've got 'er done on other win98 systems - lets try to make it 4 !!

ashawley: i can find the updater file on the CD - but the screen I get (see image) stops me from going any further.

I've only got 8 days left on MacOpener before I have to pay. i hope I can work my way through it before then ...... grin

Any further ideas?

Kottbullar:

Glad you got it working (oh, and I edited your post btw ;) ).

Yes, macopener just isn't needed anymore. That was for the days before there was even such a thing as a WiPod. It was back in the day when Apple only had MiPod firmware so we couldn't format our iPods in FAT32 format. They had to be HFS+ so it was needed.

Not anymore. There's no need for it at all. And in my experience, it just causes problems.

Adam

Did anyone manage to get their 3g ipod working with the apple usb cable on windows 98se. I only ever managed to get it looking for a driver ... :( can anyone help?

Alright, I got the updater software installed... but now the system isn't recognizing the iPod. It's a 3g 20GB and I'm trying to use a USB cable. When I plug the cable into the computer, the computer attempts to search for the "device driver" for "iPod USB Interface", so I know that the computer is recognizing the iPod, just not the program... help please?

Thank you very much... I've got step one down.

PS The buttons "Update" and "Restore" are grayed out. Also, it's the iPod Software 2.0.1 Updater V2... that IS the correct one, right? By the way, just a piece of advice to others, my problem before was that I was trying to use the updater that came with the CD, when in reality all I had to do was use the one that you download off of the internet, and the file finally came up!

I have done all of the steps above. I have even got to install successfully the Updater to my computer. But when I click the Updater.exe file, it says that it "Can't open iPod." I have no MacOpener, and my iPod is fully charged. Also, my computer seems to recognize the iPod as a Removable Disk. When I clicked on the icon, it asked me if I wanted to format the Disk, but I just clicked "No." Is this significant in any ways?

Another note, my iPod is forever on the "Do Not Disconnect" mode. And there is the icon on the system tray with the green arrow on it.

What could be the problem now? My iPod is a new 20 GB, on Windows 98 SE, and with Belkin FireWire 3-Port PCI Card.

I ran the updater from the CD. I can run update from my start menu but only restore is an option. Update is greyed out. I restore, but then I am stuck.

My computer recognizes the IPOD as a removable drive. I can copy songs to it like it is a hard drive. No songs show on the IPOD though. I have the arrow in the tray on my PC and the IPOD flashes do not disconnect. How do I actually get the IPOD manager to work? How can I transfer songs? I am obviously missing something.

Please help. I already had a monster problem when I tried to install Win XP. That is no longer an option.

Update: I installed Ephod and can move my Outlook contacts with it, but when I try to add a song it says "destination invalid."

Please help me!

I just gave up and upgraded to Windows XP and it works fine now.

Well, it works now! Went to the Apple store, and the tech guy explained some stuff to me. The folder with the exclamation mark and the permanent "OK to disconnect," is the iPod trying to tell you that the iPod is finding difficulties in accessing the iPod's systemware. Which means, NO MENU FOR YOU! So, what he did was wiped the iPod clean by using the Restore function on the Updater [on a Mac], and he told me that I could start uploading my files again. In my case, I just put in my iPod on the dock, opened up Ephpod on my PC, and everything went fine from there. Dude! Took this long...

This is my first time looking to a forum for help, so hopefully I do this correctly and hopefully someone can help me.

This weekend, I got my iPod (which is mad cool). Since I was home, and my father had a iBook, I used that to get what
music I had with me downloaded on to it, and everything worked fine.

Then, I came to school, and tried to set it up on my computer here, which runs Win98SE.
But I'm having trouble.

I managed to install the updater, but my computer doesn't recognize the iPod. In the devise manager, when the iPod is connected,
there's a yellow question mark next to which says Other Devises. Under that is a yellow question mark and exclamation point and
it says USB devise.

So, I'm led to believe that I need some sort of driver? I have the iPod dock connecter to USB 2.0 & FireWire. I'm not sure what to do
now though, if I need something else, or what. So let me know if you've got any solutions or ideas.

Thanks.

...My wife just gave me an 20 GB Ipod for my birthday :D, but I spent several hours trying to get software to work with Win98 SE :confused:. Does anyone have a link to the Updater 2.01, or has anyone figured out how to do this with 2.1? I really don't want to return the Ipod, but I also don't want to spend another $100 on XP.

ok... so i've got the 2.0.1 updater installed, but i keep getting message "ipod is not connected".
i have it connected via USB 2.0 and the ipod is a new 30 gb. i'm assuming that i need the ipod USB2 drivers, but have no idea where to find and install them.
i've considered trying EphPod, but it says only firewire will work... also no free trial macopener available either. arghhhh!

this is all so confusing ... why can't apple support 98se?

any help for this ipod newbie would be appreciated!

So wait. let me get this straight; this little update will work with Windows 98 FIRST EDITION (no SE or any of that crap)? I really would like to know since I was/am thinking about getting one, but I heard that it didn't work unless you got some kind of card for $30. After I do this, will i still need to buy that card and put it in my comp before I can start transfering music, or can I jsut use my USB port? Sorry if this has already been answered, but I really don't feel like going through 4 pages of posts! Thanks a ton in advance!

I don't think the workaround works any more, with the iPod 2.1 updater, so we're all resigned to upgrading windows, unless someone finds a new workaround for Win98. You don't need to get a Firewire card if you don't want to though, a USB port works just fine. You do have to buy the USB cable though, because the iPod only comes with firewire.

HELP! It appears that Apple may have stopped your fix!!!
The file the install creates now appears to be

iPod For Windows CD Installer

It results in

1: This installation cannot be run by directly launching the MSI package. You must run setup.exe.

Am I getting it wrong or have Apple closed the door on your fix.

Hi,

Thanks for replying to my post.

I checked the Start/Programs, there is no MacOpener. I also searched for "macopener.*" on my C drive and I also went to "add/remove prograns": still no trace. I have the same feeling as banjo bill: Apple might have disabled this work around.

In which case I would only have one solution: return my brand new Ipod :( . It's sad to admit but at this point I can't even think of upgrading my OS because I don't want to take a chance to screw up my laptop.

In case you have a brilliant idea, please let me know. I would be very happy to keep and use my Ipod.

Thanks for reassuring me but one of my friends went through this upgrade and it was a complete nightmare. On paper, it looks quite good. A few steps to follow, a little discipline and that does the trick. In reality, it's a whole different ball game. For the moment, I'll keep it as my last option.

On the other hand, if anyone has succesfully connected an Ipod 3G with a windows 98 SE recently (over the last week or so), I'd be more than happy to try their solution. I'll check this board as often as possible over the next week so do not hesitate to post something.

Thanks.

Thanks for the offer ! I would be very happy to get a copy of your CD. You can reach me at wahib@yahoo.com for delivery details.

Thanks again.

w.

Congrats and good job!

I will also send the adapter to any other Win98SE users looking for it.

Enjoy your iPod - I'm a convert!

I think I am in need of the adapter. I have a new iPod stuck in disc mode and I am unable to run the updater.

I almost forgot to mention, ALL I need is to be able to drag other files onto the ipod as a hard drive. I don't need MusicMatch or anything else at work. Just a way for Windows 98 to let me us the ipod as a hard drive.

thanks again.

jason

Originally posted by jttaboy
I almost forgot to mention, ALL I need is to be able to drag other files onto the ipod as a hard drive. I don't need MusicMatch or anything else at work. Just a way for Windows 98 to let me us the ipod as a hard drive.

thanks again.

jason

I gotta ask - did you install the firewire drivers?

if so, you may ned to uninstall everything else, install the drivers again and give it a kick.

M

Hi folks!

Well, ordered one of the delightful new ipods from the Apple store and it's only one day overdue so far (naturally, as some of you may sympathise, have been going utterly mental waiting for it to arrive)

CAN YOU PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!

Unfortunately, i'm one of those poor saps who has Windows ME as my operating-system. On buying the Ipod I had no idea it wouldn't work with this OS. However, reading these forums diligently has given me some hope. Although i'm figuring the ipod will come equipped with the new update, am i correct in thinking I can make it work with the Updater 2.01?

Having just spent 400 pounds, I really can't afford to upgrade the OS on this computer. Can anyone please please please post me the 2.01 updater to: REMOVEallan.mckenna@blueyonder.co.uk

I will forward it to the next poor soul who finds themself in the same position.

THANKS!!!!!!!!!

Allan

Im terribly sorry if this has been asked but does any one else have a problem trying to install the 2.1 updater on Windows Millenium.

I have downloaded the software from the apple website, i try to open it and it says you need Windows 2000 or Windows XP, but i have Windows ME which is Windows 2000. Help me please

Could some send the 2.01 to
Golfinglooser7@aol.com

Hey all-
I've read the posts on this thread and still can't figure out what I'm doing. The 2.1 updater on my disk doesn't seem to do any good. I'm so non-apple that I can't even figure out what model or generation I have... All I've got is that it's 10G and brand new. I already have a firewire installed on my laptop, but it's never been used. I plugged the iPod into it and my computer doesn't appear to recognize it. My iPod is only speaking Japanese right now, but the big circle with the line through it is telling me that this isn't working. Please help me! And please email any patches to caseyrhodesmd@hotmail.com.
Thanks,
Casey

Update- I figured out it's a 3G 10GB iPod. I'm now in English. The iPod now flashes 'do not disconnect' when it's plugged into my computer via the firewire. I've tried installing via the EphPod route but it's still a no-go.

Hi, I've just today bought a 20gb Ipod and have had no amount of trouble installing it into Win 98SE.

I've managed to run Updater ver 2.1, the Ipod is mounted in dock and connected through firewire to computer. It's recognized in device manager, however I can't find any software installed in my list of programs at all.

I would be grateful if somebody could advise me where I go from here, do I perhaps need the 2.01 updater?, if so could Kottbullar very kindly send it to me at

davedeering@ntlworld.com

I'm going away in three days time, and I would love to take all my music with me.

Thanks and regards

Dave

wow sounds like fun i should try it on my old comp

Hello!!

First time on here, but this forum has been very helpful so far.

However, i badly need the V2.01 (as the 2.1 just will not work on 98SE) so if Kottbullar or anyone else can send me this, i would be very grateful!!!

my email is: mbxln@nottingham.ac.uk

Cheers people.

Luke

Kottbullar, you seem to be in high demand around.

I too could use the 2.01 adapter.

Please, plaese, please send to monkeydrum@rcn.com

This forum rocks. It will rock even more if I can get music out of the pod tonite.

I just got a 3G 20GB iPod (in Japan) and am about to install it on my computer (Windows ME). However, the Japanese software (that came with it) will not run on my computer and I can only download 2.1 updater from apple's site. I have read the past 8 pages (lots of good help, thanks) and think that I need the 2.01 updater. Could someone send me the software, I promise to send it on to anyone else who needs the help.

My address is tawassel@hotmail.com

Also, my friend has Windows XP...would it be possible to configure my iPod on his computer with the 2.1 updater and then use it on my computer with ephpod? Or do I need to update the iPod on my computer inorder to be able to access and use it?

Thanks for the help.

I'm using win98se and USB port... but when i plugin my ipod they need the iPOD USB interface driver... does anyone know where i can grab one? (i believed that's y the computer doesnt reconized the ipod as an external hard disk)...

btw, i've got the updater 2.0.1 installed already and the link is:
http://alphaxion.dyndns.org/utils/utils.shtml

You certainly can use xPlay, which is what I was using for a year or so.

Bill McNair

You can simply drag songs onto an iPod. You need to have a program do that so it can update the iPod's database, so the iPod knows where they are at. So you need to download a program like ephPod or iTunes and use that program to transfer the songs.

So, get a copy of one of them, and if you are having problems than post again.

Bill McNair

just got a 40G ipod. have been running win98se and already have a firewire port and MusicMatch installed but I'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to this stuff. I've been reading the forums and seem to be having similar problems.

based on what I read I was under the impression that all I needed to do was run updater.exe. but that doesn't seem to work. I've tried the workaround (although my setup deviates a bit from that described - I don't get the "welcome to the installshield..." message. once I've selected the language I get an "install" option, not a "next" option...)

Anyway, I can find updater.exe on the cd. I moved it to a directory on my hard drive and ran it (there is no "iPod-for-win-updater-instlr.exe" on my machine; just the "iPod System Software Updater 2.0.1.msi" on the cd and "updater.exe". I select reset and it seems to go through the process.

While my system will recognize the removable disk nothing gets loaded in my start menu and musicmatch does not recognize the device. Am I doing something wrong?

Also, the ipod continuously flashes "do not disconnect" once the system recognizes the disk.

I am considering upgrading to XP but my machine is older and might not have the resources to run XP effectively.

Thanks for any help...

Can anyone tell me what i need to do? I have windows ME and a 3G ipod. It recognizes it as a removable drive, but dragging and dropping files wont work.

Well, I just got a 20GB iPod for Christmas, and I attempted to run the installer program (E:\setup.exe), just like ibons said. It didn't give me a "welcome" screen, and didn't say "welcome to the installshield wizard for iPod for Windows download installer"; it just opened a Window with a picture of an iPod, and two buttons: INSTALL and EXIT. Clicking INSTALL crashes the program as soon as it sees you have Win 98.

So I opened it again and, without clicking anything, I searched for the "iPod-for-win-updater-instlr.exe". All I found was a program in windows\temp called "UPDATER.EXE". I clicked it. Nothing happened.

So I searched the CD, and found that there were many setup.exe files. I ran the one at E:\program files\apple\iPod Updater\setup.exe, and a window opened telling me it was installing the 2.0.1 updater. Just for a lark, I clicked "NEXT", even though I knew it would crash when it saw I was running Win98.

Guess what. It DIDN'T.

The install completed without incident, and when I went to my start bar, sure enough, there was an "iPod" program group, and inside was an "updater" icon. I clicked it, and it said the iPod was disconnected, so I put it in the dock. I got the dreaded "Do not disconnect" message continuously for about an hour, then dismounted it using the icon in the system tray. I also noticed it had not been assigned a drive letter.

So I rebooted, and now it had a drive letter, D:, and the updater did recognize it. I noticed that the "restore" button was lit up, but the "update" button was not - and it was still flashing "do not disconnect".

So I dismounted it again, and hit the restore button. After the process was finished (about 5 minutes), the unit immediately began flashing "do not disconnect" again...grrrr...and I guess I am stuck.

I already have MMJB 7.5, so I simply entered the registration key on the CD sleeve, and it was accepted - but MMJB says I have "0 portable devices"

Questions:
1. Does it sound like I installed the updater properly? I think I did, but the instructions above definitely didn't work in my case. Maybe it's a different install CD?

2. Is it as ominous as it sounds that I can't get the "update" button to light up?

3. Could this be a FireWire card issue? Several people have reported that Belkin FireWire cards don't work well, and that is what I have.

4. Could this have anything to do with MMJB?

5. Any input on the "do not disconnect" message? I disabled my firewall and antivirus, but no luck.

Well, it's been two straight nights in front of my PC, and no luck.

Here's what I've done so far, with guidance from this forum:

1. Installed MS FireWire patch, no problem;
2. Installed FireWire card (Belkin), no problem;
3. Installed v 2.0.1 updater, no problem;
4. Installed ephpod, no problem.

I can see the iPod in windows explorer (drive I:) and I can see the folders inside it (ipod_control, etc.). I can even drag and drop songs to it, BUT can't see them on the iPod.

PROBLEMS:
1. iPod flashes "Do not disconnect" continuously, unless I am restoring, or the battery is charging. Flashing continues until I dismount it using the gray-box-and-arrow icon;
2. When I run updater, I can "restore" to my heart's content, but the "update" button is grayed out;
3. ephpod tells me that the file structure is invalid, and that folders such as "ipod_control" must be created, even though I can see those folders are already there;
4. When ephpod tries to create the folders, it tells me it can't create ":\iPod_control"

WHAT I'VE TRIED, WITH NO SUCCESS:
1. Uninstalled FireWire card, reinstalled patch, reinstalled card;
2. Uninstalled and reinstalled ephpod;
3. Uninstalled and reinstalled updater software.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP...I AM AT MY WIT'S END!

i can't get my ipod to mount on windows 98 se :(

I try to install iPod 10 gig under win98. I search but not find any installer or updater file in win temp or on any oter place in my computer. Do i need any programm and were can i get this??
I use a firewirecard and 6(?) pin connector cable.
Please send tips to my email: peterznmeel@hotmail.com
Tnxs a lot!

I bought my sister an ipod for Xmas. It's a 3g 20g ipod that I have installed on my computer (xp) with no problems. But now, I want to run it off win98. (her computer) when I try to install it on the old puter, I have to run 2.0.1 right? Does this mean when I plug in the ipod it will reboot it and I will losse all the music I have on there? Or have I completely got it wrong? And have we decided that USB on win 98 won't work? Is that because of the ipod? Because I have a USB port on the puter, and I can't undersatand why I would have one if I can't use it.
Dazed and confused, and in some dire need of puter 101 help!

Reformatting will delete everything. Does ur sis have win 98, or 98SE. The iPod won't work on just plain 98. U don't have to reformat at all, I had XP on my laptop. It was an old, faulty PC(like a 1998 model), so I bought my iPod&firewire card to back up all the imporatant files i had on it. Sure enough after I backed up most of the files, it crashed. I had to restore my laptap back to 98SE. I was devastated cuz i couldn't get my iPod to work with it. After I got a firewire patch from this very post and updated a driver, it now works fine if not better. There are many programs that u can use the iPod with that work with 98SE. I use Ephpod. It's free and super easy to use, plus it looks nice. Just go on google or download.com for iPod soft. if u need to know how to update the driver just ask me, or check out my other posts.

Can I just download iTunes and sort out all my mp3 tags and then hook up my ipod via usb, 'see' it as an external drive and drag and drop all my mp3's onto it ?

Cheers, new problem - I've extracted the 2.1 updater file as advised in another thread and hooked up my ipod using a firewire/usb 2.0 dock connecter cable. Ran the file and it still says my ipod is not connected. Thing is, my laptop is usb 1.1, is this the problem or is something else awry ?
I'm getting the same msg that a lot of people seem to be getting - the pc looks for an ipod usb driver, but can't find one, has anyone found a way through this yet ?

Frustrating to have the updater installed and the unit working, but no driver for the Windows 98se to work! Any source for that driver?
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Frustrating to have the updater installed and the unit working, but no driver for the Windows 98se to work! Any source for that driver?
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NOBODY has solved this problem, there are NO Ipod USB drivers for Windows 98 SE. I have been looking for one for so long, and they just don't exist. Either use a different comp or buy a firewire card dude. It sucks.

I have a 15Gb, 3G iPod.
I'm running windows 98.

I installed the updater program succesfully, but my problem is that my iPod will not connect to my computer. Firewire is not compatible with windows 98. If I connect it with the USB, it won't show up as a drive or anything and it doesn't even say "do not disconnect."
I'm not sure if it means anything, but I was able to connect it to my dad's computer (with USB) which uses windows ME. Unfortunately, none of my music files are there.

What do I need to do?

looks like i'm getting into an already crowded boat!

just got my 3g 40gb ipod friday night. purchased the usb cable and usb2.0 card saturday morning .. .. and spent all DAY AND all NIGHT trying to get the thing to work!

is there a solution to this?

can anyone help?

(I can't take the ipod back to the store saying I don't like it or it doesn't work, can I? I don't think so.)

Followed all directions to the letter and still can't find