Crashing on clean rips
Hi ho.
Just bought a 15mb iPod on Sunday, and already running into trouble.
Several minutes into some tracks, the iPod just -stops-, or it will stop and skip to the next track, and in rare cases it just up and crashes.
I've also had it crash after pausing it for a long time.
This is the first Apple hardware I've bought in 10 years so I'm feeling, er, a bit paranoid, you say? What should I do? Take it back?
edit: the Mp3s it is crashing on were ripped by me last night, using LameENC VBR at 160k/sec.
# 1 Re: Crashing on clean rips
sounds like your mp3?s may have been corrupted whilst transferring to the ipod. what type of firewire card do you have? try ashampoo ( http://www.ashampoo.com/default.htm) to check them and reencode them if necessary.
m.r.m. at 2007-11-15 17:06:53 >
# 2 Re: Crashing on clean rips
Thanks much -- I'll transfer the offending files off the iPod and run them through ashampoo tonight! If they're busted, I'll assume the firewire card hosed the connection or something along those lines.
Cheers --
iPP
# 3 Re: Crashing on clean rips
I've determined the problem. And I'm pretty ticked.
Somehow the MP3s are getting truncated as they arrive on the iPod -- ephPod slows down on the offending files during the transfer (the progress bar just -sits- there for a few seconds).
AND, the final number of MBs copied at the bottom of the screen is always LOWER than the supposed total number of MBs at the end of the copy. So maybe I was supposed to transfer 1700MB, but at the end only 1500MB had gotten transferred.
I've tried using the Windows API Copy routines, changing the Internal copying buffer size to a smaller number -- NOTHING WORKS. Basically the files are getting corrupted as they go to the iPod. The firewire card I'm using uses a standard VIA chip.
BTW, what the heck is the matter with Firewire in that there's no file size checksums or copy verification?
# 4 Re: Crashing on clean rips
Sounds like a firewire card issue... from the Windows Explorer, try creating a folder on your iPod's hard drive and copying a bunch of MP3's (or other files of your choosing) to it. Copy say 50MB... see if the transfer has problems. If so, it's your firewire card. The iPod is pretty finicky! Don't forget to delete the files you copied when your done!
Jyunte at 2007-11-15 17:09:54 >
# 5 Re: Crashing on clean rips
Thanks for the tips, I am encountering the same 'truncated MP3' issues. I posted a separate thread about it and someone helpfully directed me here.
When the iPod is loading tunes, it definitely does it in spurts. I thought it was natural, but now I see its probably chopping some of my songs. I am annoyed; its not just a dozen or so--I reckon I have now identified 2 dozen songs (out of 800) that are affected! And the number is bound to rise.
Ok so I need to investigate just what 'ishampoo' is. And I will try the suggestion cited here about manually moving songs over.
But can you specify exactly where to create a folder safely on iPod? Using Windows Explorer, I see a directory tree on iPod which is unfamiliar--I am hesitant to just plonk down a folder of music. Will the songs show up in the track list if I do this?
Thanks!!
R U M & C O K E
# 6 Re: Crashing on clean rips
Here's how I got around it.
Wiped the iPod clean, changed the copy API to Windows-style.
Dragged the first folder over. IF YOU SEE THE BAR STOP HALFWAY, DON'T PANIC! Wait until the copy is done.
Then select "Verify iPod Database" and wait for it. It will recognize the busted songs and AUTO-DELETE THEM.
Now, drag the SAME folder over again and ephPod will ONLY copy the songs that were busted and got deleted.
This is a hella pain in the butt, but eventually I filled 13gb :D
I think it's due to flakiness in the FireWire card myself. Absurd that the iPod is so picky -- every other FW peripheral on my system works without a hitch.
# 7 Re: Crashing on clean rips
rum&coke:
You can create a folder anywhere you want on the iPod. I'd just do it at the root of the drive. Don't worry, you can delete it when you're done. You're just doing a test.
iPodiatrist (great user name btw ;)) and rum&coke:
Yes, the iPod is very picky about what cards it chooses to get along with. It's been that way since day one. But also, there are notorious hardware vendors that just don't follow standards (e.g. Creative w/their Audigy cards).
Chances are a really good card will take care of your problems right off. Adaptec 4300 is my personal recommendation. I've never seen it fail. I've got an Orangelink from orange micro that works wonders as well.
Adam
