just like to say to anyone in doubt of buying an ipod for use with windows that my new 15gb worked fine out of the box. i bought a firewire card for just under ?9 from dabs.com for use with my win2k machine and so far im a very happy guy. i didnt like the bloatedness of the supplied software so use ephpod instead which is very nice. just thought id say this as before purchasing i was quite anxious with all the problems people were having.