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Subaru charger

Since Subaru is a foreign car, the cigarette lighter is non-standard. I've searched for hours online and haven't been able to find a charger for the iPod that will work in it. Has anyone else found one? Or a converter that will let me use a 12-volt charger?
[270 byte] By [kdavies] at [2007-11-9 12:38:26]
# 1 Re: Subaru charger
Whats the problem with the Subaru?
Is the lighter socket smaller than domestic vehicles?
I had use of a Forester for sometime and as far as I was aware it was 12v from the lighter socket.
Bob at 2007-11-15 16:06:33 >
# 2 Re: Subaru charger
According to Subaru it is a different voltage, although they don't say in the manual exactly what voltage it is. We melted a 12v charger for our cooler in it once, so I don't want to use anything I'm not sure of. We're quite a ways from the nearest dealer and I didn't want to make a trip into Atlanta just for this.
kdavies at 2007-11-15 16:07:33 >
# 3 Re: Subaru charger
We have a 2003 Subaru Legacy, and used the Belkin 3Gen charger for 3 hours (first time) last weekend with no incident. Don't know if I was just lucky? Or perhaps the USA imported versions have the correct voltage?
thenightfly42 at 2007-11-15 16:08:43 >
# 4 Re: Subaru charger
I was told they are non-standard. Looks like I might have to go up to the dealership...I seem to be the only one having trouble!
kdavies at 2007-11-15 16:09:38 >
# 5 Re: Subaru charger
Hmm, for Subaru to adopt a completely different voltage from a worldwide standard is a bit odd, not that I don't believe you. Think of all the accessories you can't use because they get fried!
Bob at 2007-11-15 16:10:37 >
# 6 Re: Subaru charger
Tell me about it. I really liked that cooler!
kdavies at 2007-11-15 16:11:47 >
# 7 Re: Subaru charger
I drive a 2000 Subaru Legacy GT wagon and use the Belkin charger with my 30GB ipod every day. Not a single problem.
chimpinator at 2007-11-15 16:12:41 >
# 8 Re: Subaru charger
Really!? That's all I need to hear! I'll try it out! Thanks!
kdavies at 2007-11-15 16:13:44 >
# 9 Re: Subaru charger
Well...my brother drives a 2002 Subaru WRX. I haven't used any chargers for the ipod in it yet, but i've charged my celphone without anyproblems. We didn't get a warning about the voltage either...maybe you got an imported model?

I know some foriegn car makers import their cars instead of making it in the U.S or in Mexico...but usually they convert everything to U.S. and State specs before they are sold.

Try charging something else in it first. I'd hate to hear that you fried a 400 dollar iPod.
ILoveMusic at 2007-11-15 16:14:41 >
# 10 Re: Subaru charger
I may be corrected here, but I do not think there is any other vehicle electrical system standard other than 12v across the globe.
Trucks, as in heavy haulage trucks, may use 24v although not all do, and motorcycles may use 6v, but automobiles of all major maunfacturers will use the 12v system.
Now if you had a Trabant it may be 1.5v cos those things need the power for the lights but you wind the engine up (;))
Subaru is a worldwide auto maker, so I would hazard a guess they will be 12v - now why kdavies managed to melt a cooler may be down to a fault on the cooler?
Just my 2p worth!!
Or should that be 12v worth!!
Bob at 2007-11-15 16:15:43 >
# 11 Re: Subaru charger
There is one other car electrical system in the world but I don't think anyone has built a car with it for 30 years or more. All modern cars have a 12v NEGATIVE EARTH system. There are some rather old, classic cars that use a slightly different voltage and a positive earth but the Subaru sure isn't one of them!

If you're not picking up charge from the car its probably a problem with the charger not fitting quite right into the socket. Best advice is to wiggle it a lot and if that fails, you can buy an extension lead that might bridge the gap and be more reliable.

Graeme
bighairy at 2007-11-15 16:16:42 >
# 12 Re: Subaru charger
I'm telling you, though, that the manual I got with my 2000 Subaru Outback states that a standard adapter will not work properly and that using one could result in problems. Perhaps it's bogus, and I'll give it a try, since other Subaru owners don't seem to have a problem. But I'm not making this up!
kdavies at 2007-11-15 16:17:51 >
# 13 Re: Subaru charger
I don't doubt you...its just strange to hear that Subaru would even release a 24V output in the U.S.

Although, many automobile electronic manuals always say to check the voltage before installing, meaning that there are 24V systems around. Let us know what you find...i hope you don't fry your iPod.
ILoveMusic at 2007-11-15 16:18:47 >
# 14 Re: Subaru charger
kdavies,
No-one is accusing you of making it up - if it says it in the manual then there must be something behind it.
Everyone is as confused as you, and I for one would be interested in the reasons for this warning.
Rather than risk anymore electrical equipment I would be inclined to get a definitive answer, in writing, from a Subaru dealer.
I say in writing, then if it does blow your iPod up after you have been told it is OK by the dealer, at least you may have some recourse for compensation.

Just a suggestion.......
Bob at 2007-11-15 16:19:53 >
# 15 Re: Subaru charger
I've never heard of any car that is specifically marketed for the US to have anything other then standard 12V power sockets installed.
noryen at 2007-11-15 16:20:47 >
# 16 Re: Subaru charger
Upon further research, I found this little tidbit of info... The subaru does use standard 12V as we all thought.

However, it appears that some of their sockets were designed for Cigarette Lighters, while other were designed to power accessories.

Some sockets allow for a "flat bottom" connection (aka cigarette lighter) while other sockets allow for the cone/button looking connection. If you try inserting a electrical device into the "flat bottom" socket, you risk damaging the socket if you press in too hard... simple solution is to not press in to hard.
noryen at 2007-11-15 16:21:51 >
# 17 Re: Subaru charger
However, it appears that some of their sockets were designed for Cigarette Lighters, while other were designed to power accessories.

:eek: D'OH !!!

That's what I did to my brand new 2005 Outback. Dang.

I took out the cigarette lighter and tried to plug a phone charger into to the dash. Pushed too hard (although it didn't seem like it) and the dash case around it popped in and slipped a little--now it's out of alignment.

I only tried that because the really cool socket in the armrest, clearly labeled "12V Charger" had a Belkin FM transmitter in it already. I felt forced to buy it as I went on a long trip last weekend and didn't have time to put in a wired FM modulator (or the interest to pay for it.) Worked OK on the road but audio quality was lacking, as I expected.

:confused: Does anyone make an auxilliary-in kit for Subaru stock stereos? I've been looking and don't see anything. new dash is just too cool looking to tear it up for a new head unit.

--By the way, kdavies, the '05 Outback wagons also have a 12V socket in the back left, perfect for coolers. If you don't have $25-30K laying around, I'll bet your dealer or other car stereo/toy shop could convert your smaller lighter plug or add in another one for 12V stuff.
mattymatt at 2007-11-15 16:22:49 >
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