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iPod with Sony Car audio

I have Sony car audio equipment and they have an adaptor (Model XA-300) that adds two aux jacks, headphone output and USB input. I connected my iPod to one of the aux jacks an got great sound. Plus I can switch between the iPod, CD, and tuner from the head unit. I just plug the unit between my head unit and CD changer. It cost $100 but it will give you the best audio quality of any of the options currently available. With this I will never have to bring CD's with me as I travel.
[488 byte] By [lovemyipod] at [2007-11-9 12:22:37]
# 1 Re: iPod with Sony Car audio
That sounds like just what I need, but I have a couple of questions. I currently have a relatively new Sony CD player that can control a CD-changer, so do you think this product will work with it? Also, how easy is it to install and where do you have it placed in your car? I'd rather not have cables sticking out all over the place. Thanks
henleyfan at 2007-11-15 16:06:42 >
# 2 Re: iPod with Sony Car audio
I have it installed behind my center console. It goes between head unit and CD-Changer using the audio and unilink cables. My Sony is from 1999 and it worked without a problem. Since yours is new it should have the unilink plug on the back. On your head unit when you select the CD changer, you can then also select aux1, aux2 and usb. Right now I have a temporary RCA to stereo mini jack cable coming out from my console. I plan to do a permament install by putting a stero mini jack in a hidden area of my console so all I need to do is plug a cable into the jack on the console and the iPod. A car stereo installer should be able to install it in less than an hour.
lovemyipod at 2007-11-15 16:07:42 >
# 3 Re: iPod with Sony Car audio
lovemyipod - I am just about to install a similar setup in my car (glad to hear the sound quality is up to scratch :) )

I have the XA-300 on order, but just wanted to know did it come with the unilink cable to connect to the head unit? Also from what I have found from Google the XA-300 does NOT require a seperate power supply - can you confirm this?

I also wondered if you had considered using the new Belkin car adapter to power the iPod in the car (this is what I plan to do). The Belkin adapter uses power from the cigarette lighter and has a single cable that goes to the iPod for power and line out. The adapter itself then has a line out (3.5mm socket) on it.

I want to try and stealth the install in my car by placing the XA-300 behind the centre console and wiring up a second lighter socket behind the dash for the Belkin adapter. This will keep all wires hidden, apart from the single power / line out cable that plugs into the bottom of the iPod.

Only problem I have is getting some info on how to wire up the second lighter socket. I am guessing it can be spliced off the original one - but I need to get some more info on this.

Cheers,

Chris
ChrisB at 2007-11-15 16:08:51 >
# 4 Re: iPod with Sony Car audio
The XA-300 comes with the unilink cable and a RCA patch cable to go between the XA-300 and the Sony head unit. It also includes velcro strips to attach the unit to someplace in your center console area. It does not need any power. I am guessing the unilink cable provides the power.

As for the Belkin adapter, I am not familar with it. I got the PowerPod from Griffin to provide the power to the iPod. I then place my iPod in the center console storage area. I also got a product called Sticky Pad (found it at Comp USA) that I place on the bottom of the storage area and prevents the iPod from sliding around.
lovemyipod at 2007-11-15 16:09:46 >
# 5 Re: iPod with Sony Car audio
That is the same setup I have. The changers in the back, the XA-300 is under the head unit (the space is double decker. Ipod mount is in the ash tray. 2000 toyota 4 Runner. Here are pictures:

--rick
boba_rick at 2007-11-15 16:10:45 >
# 6 Re: iPod with Sony Car audio
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boba_rick at 2007-11-15 16:11:45 >
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boba_rick at 2007-11-15 16:12:49 >
# 8 Re: iPod with Sony Car audio
Bought one from Best Buy (great price with the coupons), and had them install it. They did not understand that the AUX cable is a feature of the Sony, and jammed it behind the console in my Subaru Legacy GT. I had to rip out the thing last night, reran the aux cable, and now I have blessed clear sound in my car. :)
Interesting you got the dock to sit in the ashtray. I will need to try that!
ExtremeSIMS at 2007-11-15 16:13:52 >
# 9 Re: iPod with Sony Car audio
rick that is so cool,
beanlambert at 2007-11-15 16:14:50 >
# 10 Re: iPod with Sony Car audio
rick - novel use of your ashtray there. Just hope you enforce a strict no smoking policy in your vehicle ;)
Bob at 2007-11-15 16:15:51 >
# 11 Re: iPod with Sony Car audio
You guys seem to know what you're talking about so I figure I'll ask here because I've been driving myself crazy trying to figure this out.

I too have a Sony Headunit (CDX-M670, with the folddown face). I do not have a Sony CD Changer though, so would it be possible for me to just plug RCA cables into the back and use it as an aux input or do I need to buy that converter? Or do you guys know of any other solutions? I'd like to avoid having to pay $100 if at all possible...

Thanks
BigIzz at 2007-11-15 16:16:50 >
# 12 Re: iPod with Sony Car audio
I have an older but otherwise very good Sony circa. 93-94. Those RCA Jacks in the back were only enabled when the unit was hooked up with a unilink cable to a cd changer. Months ago I was thinking the very same thing you are and i did a search and found there was some forum with these electric tech guys that were building a unit that connected to the Unilink jack to fool the headunit into thinking there was a changer connected, thus enabling the RCA jacks to be used with their MP3 players. I believe their goal was accomplished, but as far as i know, it wasn't available commercially at that time. But that can always change. Anyway, to get to the point, I believe new Sony's RCA jacks will work fine with an Mp3 player. Otherwise get a new headunit...alpine's are nice or cough up 100 bucks for the aux switcher.
el~cid at 2007-11-15 16:17:59 >
# 13 Re: iPod with Sony Car audio
BigIzz,

You would need the XA-300 to have the aux input for the iPod. Although you do not have a changer, by hooking up the unilink cable and changer inputs to XA-300, you can have aux input. The sound quality difference makes the difference in price between the FM Transmitters and the XA-300 worth it. And $100 is a lot less than a new head unit of the quality of your Sony.
lovemyipod at 2007-11-15 16:18:54 >
# 14 Re: iPod with Sony Car audio
Yeah that is what I figured...thanks
BigIzz at 2007-11-15 16:20:01 >
# 15 Re: iPod with Sony Car audio
Thought I'd come back and revisit this thread now that I finally managed to complete the install for my 3rd gen Ipod in my car.

The sound quality is excellent through the Sony head unit and XA-300, and I no longer have to carry a shedload of CD's around with me :) .

I ended up modifying the plastic "cubby-hole" in my centre console to fit an extra 12V accessory socket. The Belkin adapter then plugs into this and is concealed by a hinged door on the front of the cubby. I have a quick release mount from http://www.theclip.com which goes in the glove box when not in use.

The whole setup is fairly "stealth" when the iPod is not in use, so shouldn't attract too much attention. The backlit buttons on the 3G iPods are a real winner when using it in the car at night.

All in all, very pleased with the setup....

iPod not in use:
http://www.chrisburnett.nildram.co.uk/ipod_mx5/no-ipod.jpg

Opening adapter compartment:
http://www.chrisburnett.nildram.co.uk/ipod_mx5/belkin-install-door-open.jpg

Belkin connector and ipod mounting cradle:
http://www.chrisburnett.nildram.co.uk/ipod_mx5/ipod-belkin-mount.jpg

And we're off....:
http://www.chrisburnett.nildram.co.uk/ipod_mx5/ipod-in-action.jpg

Cheers,

Chris
ChrisB at 2007-11-15 16:20:53 >
# 16 Re: iPod with Sony Car audio
what are you all doing get this going to be a hell of alot better then that sony adapter thing

http://icelink.densionusa.com/
Scott Williams at 2007-11-15 16:21:58 >
# 17 Re: iPod with Sony Car audio
Originally posted by Scott Williams
what are you all doing get this going to be a hell of alot better then that sony adapter thing

http://icelink.densionusa.com/

Well, I'm willing to be proved wrong on this, but I suspect they won't be releasing a Sony Unilink version anytime soon. The site just pops up a generic message saying coming soon with no specifics.

There has been a whole group of folks, (sorry - forget the link), that have been trying to reverse engineer the Unilink protocol used by Sony. To date its a major DIY job involving microprocessor programming to get something setup. I think the company in the link above will be releasing for many other head unit brands, but my guess is not Sony...

In case anyone is in the UK and wants a hardly used discount XA-300... I might have one for sale. Shortly after I posted this some lowlife burgled my house and stole my head unit face plate.

Net result is its cheaper to just buy a new head unit. Even the Sony one I am considering from their current range now has an AUXIN out of the box.

C'est la Vie I guess :( . At least my current install will just hook up to whatever I put in, and I can probably free up some space by dirching the XA-300.

Cheers,

Chris
ChrisB at 2007-11-15 16:22:55 >
# 18 Re: iPod with Sony Car audio
i e-mailed them while ago and said whats the deal with the sony version and they said its coming with all the others in november... who knows should be good..

how much you selling that XA-300 for im in the UK Gatwick area
Scott Williams at 2007-11-15 16:24:00 >
# 19 Re: iPod with Sony Car audio
Originally posted by Scott Williams
i e-mailed them while ago and said whats the deal with the sony version and they said its coming with all the others in november... who knows should be good..

how much you selling that XA-300 for im in the UK Gatwick area

I hope they do come out with a working AUXIN link that undercuts Sony significantly - might make Sony see the light and stop them trying to rob their customers blind :rolleyes:

Having said that, I am seriously considering a CDX-CA900 for about 170GBP inc VAT. This has AUXIN on the back out of the box. See it here:

http://www.incarexpress.co.uk/focus.php3?partno=CDXCA900

Is it just me or do 90% of the CD tuner head units just look sh*te? Sony's offerings (apart from the one above), just look like they eminated from CheeeezzWorld - lots of gawdy silver plastic and dodgy looking graphics..... Alpine and Pioneer are not much better.

Just looking at my receipts for the XA-300, and I paid about 90GBP for it back in June. Its got about 7 months warranty left on it. I don't have the box but have all the manuals and cables etc.

I live in SE London so not far away - i'm open to reasonable offers bearing in mind its been hardly used :). Drop me a mail if you are interested in taking it further. I need all the contributions I can get towards the replacement head unit :rolleyes:

Cheers,

Chris
ChrisB at 2007-11-15 16:24:59 >
# 20 Re: iPod with Sony Car audio
well not really its going to cost ?80 UK thats the price of the ice link and ?100 if you want it with a holder not really unders cutting sony at all but then, its a better product then sony is offering if you have an iPod.

will have to have a think about buying that XA-300 off ya. really hoping that this ice link will be the nutz we will see
Scott Williams at 2007-11-15 16:26:01 >
# 21 Re: iPod with Sony Car audio
As I say just email me if you wanna take the XA-300 thing any further.

Didn't realise the Icelink was going to be that much :( . Only other downside I can see to it is that remote control of the iPod requires an extra cable going into the top of the iPod as well as the charging cable into the bottom. I prefer the neater solution of the Belkin single connector for charging and line out personally.

A lot depends on the improvement in sound quality you get with the Belkin amp in the chain I guess. My car listening environment is pretty noisy anyway (softtop), so I doubt I would notice the improvement. Also the way I have mounted my iPod means its easier to use the controls on the iPod than use those on the head unit - I don't have steering wheel mounted controls though, maybe that would be an argument in favour of the icelink if you did?

Do you still need a groundloop eliminator in the icelink setup I wonder, or does it have one built in?

I'm still going with the head unit with built in AUXIN I think - simplifies things greatly.

Cheers,

Chris
ChrisB at 2007-11-15 16:27:08 >
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