mp3 to AAC
Just curious, how much loss in file quality would result from converting existing mp3's to AAC format? I know it would be much better to re-rip from cd, but I'm just curious.
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ipodtodd] at [2007-11-9 11:42:11]

# 1 Re: mp3 to AAC
How do you want me to quantify the loss? I'm not sure how it would be measured, but I tried it out of pure curiosity. There was a noticeable difference between the MP3 converted to AAC and the AAC file that was re-ripped directly.
# 2 Re: mp3 to AAC
Yeah, sorry, it was a pretty ambiguous question. I guess I can just wait until tommorow when I'll finally be able to get my hands on itunes 4 for the first time.
Edit: Thanks for the response, though :)
# 3 Re: mp3 to AAC
I don't notice a difference...
Of course I'm sure most people here would probably think I'm an idiot because 192Kbps (MP3) is perfectly acceptable for me.
As long as the high-end isn't too "tinny" and lows too "muddy" I'm happy!
I've converted most of my collection to AAC already and I love the format. I get the same quaility for a smaller footprint.
rhad2k at 2007-11-15 16:49:59 >

# 4 Re: mp3 to AAC
Nobody thinks you're an idiot.
When I did my tests, over a year ago, I didn't notice a difference when converting an mp3 to an AAC until I went and compared the AAC to the CD, rather than the mp3. Here's a link to the thread (http://www.xsorbit1.com/users/dennx/index.cgi?board=ipodwishlist&action=display&num=1023388125&start=0) on the old forums, if you're interested.
# 5 Re: mp3 to AAC
I have a couple questions regarding the new AAC format. As I understand it, if I convert MP3s to AAC the sound quality will degrade. Is this true? Therefore if the original was from a CD, I have to re-rip the CD. Not a big problem. But what if the original was a downloaded file. Is converting a viable option or will I lose too much sound quality.
Also, I have now set up itunes to import as AAC. Therefore if I download a file, I assume its automatically being converted to AAC when I import into itunes. Does this degrade the sound?
Thanks,
Dave
davewe at 2007-11-15 16:52:04 >

# 6 Re: mp3 to AAC
Originally posted by davewe
I have a couple questions regarding the new AAC format. As I understand it, if I convert MP3s to AAC the sound quality will degrade. Is this true? Yes it will degrade but you may not notice it.
Originally posted by davewe
Also, I have now set up itunes to import as AAC. Therefore if I download a file, I assume its automatically being converted to AAC when I import into itunes. Does this degrade the sound?
Thanks,
Dave When you download a song iTunes will not convert it to AAC. You can have the downloaded song stay in it's original format. When you import a song it is converted according to your preferences. In other words, it's your choice.
# 7 Re: mp3 to AAC
How many people are actually going to convert mp3 to aac? Are some going to stay with mp3?
# 8 Re: mp3 to AAC
Originally posted by iPodboy
How many people are actually going to convert mp3 to aac? Are some going to stay with mp3? There is absolutely no reason to convert mp3 to AAC. I would think that the result would sound no better than the original mp3 and possibly worse. However, converting to AAC from a CD might make sense if you were concerned about space. I think the biggest reason someone might have for using AAC is playing multi channel sound since AAC supports multi channel while mp3 does not.
# 9 Re: mp3 to AAC
Originally posted by randydecker
There is absolutely no reason to convert mp3 to AAC.
The file size would be significantly smaller ;)
Personally, I convert all MP3s higher than 128 bitrate to AAC (128 bitrate) and leave all my 128-bitrate MP3s alone.
# 10 Re: mp3 to AAC
Maybe I am a total ludite on several opiates, but do you have to pay for the ability to encode in AAC? Apple wont give me a strait answer. Also, John Paul Davis-how did you test it over a year ago? Do you live in area 51 or something?
# 11 Re: mp3 to AAC
Justin,
No, you don't have to pay to encode in AAC. The licensing is taken care of by Apple and any agreements they've got. AAC has been around for quite awhile, but in a form from Psytel. Psytel was bought out by Ahead Software (Nero) and the development efforts continue there. I belive it's Dolby Labs that also has an AAC codec, but I'm not 100% sure.
As to the original question of converting .mp3 to .aac. I wouldn't personally do it unless my .mp3's were of exceptional quality from the start. Exceptional being you ripped from CD and you encoded to a very high bitrate. I'd say nothing less than 256 or --alt-preset extreme. If it's something you've downloaded from the net then forget about transcoding as it's quality suspect anyway.
clintb at 2007-11-15 16:58:05 >

# 12 Re: mp3 to AAC
Also, John Paul Davis-how did you test it over a year ago? Do you live in area 51 or something?
AAC has been available for over a year, but iTunes didn't support it. QuickTime did, and so all my tests were using QuickTime.
# 13 Re: mp3 to AAC
Just a hint when converting, and here I'm referring to re-converting the original CD (AIFF) to AAC to replace mp3s already in iTunes, rather than converting an mp3 file to an AAC file.
When the CD is re-converted sometimes you are prompted to Replace Existing songs, which is preferrable, or sometimes there is no prompt to replace and another copy of the song is made and then you have to clean up the AAC and delete the mp3 and lose all your previously played info. This happens to me all the time with most of my CDs, which for the most part are from overseas.
What I do is open the CD in a separate window, select all the songs, command-i to change the tags and change the fields to make them the same as what I've already got in iTunes. This step usually is enough to provide the Replace Existing prompt. Sometimes a song title is different and doesn't get replaced and then I just let it slide and clean-up that particular song.
This is working well for me.
# 14 Re: mp3 to AAC
You might want to check out this iPodlounge article ( http://www.ipodlounge.com/articles_more.php?id=496_0_8_0_M) about different methods for making the most of the "Replace Existing" option. It includes a link to an AppleScript you might find useful.