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How do you STOP a song?

Ok so I've read a lot about the battery problems and the hold button being on and draining the battery. I don't experience hold button drainage, but the "instant" on capability to return from sleep to the point of the song you were in definitely must take some power up to constantly remember where it is. Is there any way to STOP a song? It's great to pause it, but there's no stop button of course lol, and the only way to really stop I've encountered was to finish the last song in the artist/songs/genre/ playlist or the on the go playlist. From there it returns to the main menu and then you can shut off as usual. Is there a way to stop a song? Maybe a hidden combo to press?
[706 byte] By [PetiePal] at [2007-11-9 12:49:55]
# 1 Re: How do you STOP a song?
The iPod never goes off, it just goes to sleep and there's no way to "stop" a song. You can force the iPod to sleep by pressing the pause button for 2 seconds or so. But it's easier just to let it go to sleep on its own. It doesn't use that much power.

Adam
ashawley at 2007-11-15 14:16:06 >
# 2 Re: How do you STOP a song?
Yeah I understand that. What I'm saying is that if it sleeps, and isn't paused in the middle of a song, say put to sleep as soon as you unmount it, maybe the battery drain will be less. Has anyone tested this out? There's got to be some kind of RAM running in the background letting it know at what point in what song it's paused at. That definitely would take a toll on the battery drainage. :eek:
PetiePal at 2007-11-15 14:17:06 >
# 3 Re: How do you STOP a song?
No, it's not ram. It just needs to write to the HDD where it was left off. Then when you click a button it pulls that info up.

At least it could be done that way. Not sure how it is done.

Don't sweat it. There's no solution so I wouldn't worry about it.

Adam
ashawley at 2007-11-15 14:18:08 >
# 4 Re: How do you STOP a song?
Hiya, just got my 30gb ipod two days ago and I love it, but I just couldn't get used to the whole "no stop button" thing.

I got around that by making an tiny sound file (mp3 in my case) with about a second or two of dead air, then making a playlist just for that file. So as long as I don't have the "repeat" setting on, I've got my very own stop function :D

Not quite elegant, but it does the trick.
ilander at 2007-11-15 14:19:13 >
# 5 Re: How do you STOP a song?
I don't think I understand ...
casio at 2007-11-15 14:20:13 >
# 6 Re: How do you STOP a song?
Good idea! I just think it might drain less battery life for some reason since it's always in sleep mode persay. It very well could be done the way above that was mentioned but for autoon capability and to immediately play that song from where you left off some kind of info would have to be immediately accessible because my Ipod's hd doesn't even spin up on resuming. Maybe the cache memory is stored... How do you make the 2 second mp3?
PetiePal at 2007-11-15 14:21:12 >
# 7 Re: How do you STOP a song?
Well, I'm working from the windows world here (ooh, I love alliteration!) so I just made a 1 second wav file in Sonic Foundry SoundForge, then converted it to an mp3 with Audiocatalyst. I'm not sure how to do it on a mac, but I can find that out at home.

As for why I put it on the ipod, since it's not really necessary, I think its mostly psychological. "It's paused! It'll suck up the juice like that!" *place snap here*.

But the other reason I probably need it is to sidestep my absentmindedness and clumsiness. I've got 5000 plus songs on my ipod and usually just have it play everything randomly.

I'm just afraid one day I'll pause it, put it away and forget to set the hold button, then accidentally unpause it in the process, only to have it play all day and then really drain the battery. Also, I'm using the Marware SportSleeve, which partially covers the play/pause icon, so its kinda hard to see just by glancing at it.

And I'm pretty sure that's a big possibility with me. As an example, I forgot to set the keylock on my phone yesterday and accidentally called a friend in hawaii while it was in my pocket.

doh!
ilander at 2007-11-15 14:22:16 >
# 8 Re: How do you STOP a song?
while I'll buy the arguement about accidently leaving the iPod playing, IMO, the power arguement is not realistic.
The iPod's biggest power draw would be when it spins up and accesses the hard drive to fill or add to the RAM buffer. It seems to have a rather intelligent caching scheme to keep the drive access to a minimum.
When you pause the Pod, it just holds the contents of the RAM buffer static. This only takes a very, very small amount of power to do these (depending on the RAM they used)
IIRC, the manual said it would last 2-3 weeks in standby mode.
I'd test this but I couldn't possible not use the iPod for that long ;)
JYoung at 2007-11-15 14:23:17 >
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