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What type of NOISE CANCELING headphones do you have?

I am a frequent airline traveler and other than my ipod, some sort of noise canceling headphone is a must for my carry-on bag. Currently I am using AIWA HP-CN5 noise canceling headphones, but need to get some new ones. AIWA's are good, but can get uncomfortable after an hour or two of usage. Oh, I am not going to pay $300 for those Bose stupid-comfort phones. Anyone has any suggestions?
[394 byte] By [devastor] at [2007-11-9 13:13:36]
# 1 Re: What type of NOISE CANCELING headphones do you have?
Try the Etymotic, either er-6 (about $140) or er-4 (about $270). They're canal phones which means they go all the way into your ear canal and and block about 25db--so they're not noise cancelling, but rather noise blocking--but with music on, everything is blocked out. If you can deal with these being stuck in your ears, the sound quality is almost perfect. I have the er-4's, and I'm constantly blown away by their clarity--well worth the money I spent (and believe me, I was very hesitant to spend that much on protable headphone).

For good headphone info and advice--Headphone.com is great, and they have a 30 day return policy.
rextrade at 2007-11-15 15:28:09 >
# 2 Re: What type of NOISE CANCELING headphones do you have?
I reccomend the Bose Noise Cancelling headset hands down!! I make many trips to Hong Kong, and the bose were the best investment I have ever made. They are very comfortable, and the sound quality is excellent. They work awesome with the iPod, and have a small amplifier built into the cord, with a hi and low setting, so you can really pump up the volume if need be. They are expensive, no doubt, but I love them and think they were worth every penny. Smart money is spent on the bose, stupid money is spent on all others.

GL and get the bose!
maleablekat at 2007-11-15 15:29:09 >
# 3 Re: What type of NOISE CANCELING headphones do you have?
Here's a comparison of the etymotic and Bose phones.

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/1101/headphones.htm

I think most that have heard both will give an edge to the Etymotics.
rextrade at 2007-11-15 15:30:19 >
# 4 Re: What type of NOISE CANCELING headphones do you have?
How well does those "noise-blocking" headphones like the etymotics work? I have also heard great stuff about the Shure E-2 headphones, which are the same canal phone technology.
devastor at 2007-11-15 15:31:11 >
# 5 Re: What type of NOISE CANCELING headphones do you have?
I can only comment on the Ety's (ER-4P's) and the Boses. My advice on the Bose: Try them on a plane. They block the ambient plane noise, but not the annoying people around you while you're trying to sleep. They just seem louder actually because they're yelling to overcome the plane noise.

I'll never forget my first long (CVG to CDG) flight with my ER-4P's. As we were taxiing on the runway at CDG, I took my Ety's out and then noticed there was a kid behind us crying. I mentioned to the guy next to me that it would have been terrible if that kid had been screaming like that for the whole flight. The look the guy gave me was all I needed to realize that he had been screaming the whole flight. These things (with my iPod) have saved my sanity on my several intl flights over the past year or so.

The ER-4x series of headphone is just like taking a world class headphone, and sticking it in the middle of an earplug. You get the ≈30db noise reduction that you'd get from a pretty good earplug, and then you can drown out any little bit of noise that exceeds that with music - which doesn't take much volume. Classical music on a plane is actually possible. They also come with either rubber or foam tips - just like most popular earplugs.

The other problem with the Bose (and apparently others) is that they tend to work so hard on getting so/so noise cancelling performance, that they seem to totally forget about the speaker/music quality. Go look at a forum like headwize.com and you'll see the general Bose opinion is that they are the Microsoft of the speaker world - OK products with exceptional marketing.

The only potential "gotcha" of the Ety's on an airplane is that you need to be comfy with having an earplug in your ear. I have used earplugs a lot in the past so for me it was a no brainer. Go down to Wally World and get a cheap pair of rubber or foam earplugs (in their Pharmacy quite often) and see if you can handle it. I like the rubber tips myself because of their durability, but the foam ones work well too, and are perhaps a bit more comfy.

The Ety's aren't perfect. If you want to jog in them, well, you probably don't. I have some cheap $15 Sony's for that. The Ety's cause a lot of cable noise if you hit the cable while moving. Not good for activities like jogging. However, you can do somewhat active things in them still. I painted my room one weekend while wearing them without much problem at all.

The only other disadvantage is that you won't be able to hear the pilot when he wakes everyone up to point out the grand canyon below you... :) (Of course, there was the one time that I missed an announcement that the tower where we were going to be landing was on fire, but that's another story...)

Oh, and as to the $$... Yeah, it's a lot. But I wish I would have just bit the bullet in 1997 when I first heard of Etymotic instead of waiting several years to research and dispose of several cheaper ($40 a pop) Sony headphones.
bakerzdosen at 2007-11-15 15:32:21 >
# 6 Re: What type of NOISE CANCELING headphones do you have?
The Shure's are also pretty good, but not in the same class as the Ety's (IMO). Go to http://www.head-fi.org/ and you'll learn more than you ever wanted to know about headphones.

Bakerzdozen's description of the Ety noise blocking is right on the mark.
rextrade at 2007-11-15 15:33:20 >
# 7 Re: What type of NOISE CANCELING headphones do you have?
Some people don't like the microphonics of the Ety's or having things so deep in their ear canals. For those people active noise cancellation is still a very good option when flying, but I wouldn't recommend the Bose. Check out the Sennheiser PXC250 if you want over-the-ear phones or Sony MDR-NC11 for canal-style buds (not as deep as the Etys). The gang over at head-fi would, in general, probably rank the Sennheisers as the best non-Ety solution.
SunByrne at 2007-11-15 15:34:14 >
# 8 Re: What type of NOISE CANCELING headphones do you have?
I was looking at replacing/augmenting my Sony EX70SL's with the Bose Quiet Comfort headphones, but after trying them in various stores the low rumble type noises (engines etc) were filtered out very well, but as 'bakersdozen' pointed out the human voice isn't drowned out.
You can hear what folk are saying even clearer.
Now imagine if that screaming kid was behind you - you would hear every sob and gasp perfectly.
This was the final deciding factor for me - plane noise I can suffer, but the noise of people drives me round the bend.
My Sony's cut out a good amount of all noise as they are in-the-ear phones, and if you want true sound suppression, I think that is the best route.
If you are concerned about spending 3 figues on these 'phones why not try the Sony EX71's (as they are now) - the sound isn't to some peoples liking (I think they are good) but at least you'll get the idea about how they work as an ear plug as well as an earphone.

BTW - the Quiet Comfort 2 is now out at $299 - a much tidier package but I felt the actual performance of the noise cancelling inferior to the QC 1 (now $249).
Bob at 2007-11-15 15:35:17 >
# 9 Re: What type of NOISE CANCELING headphones do you have?
are you sure you want noice-cancelling instead of isolation?

headphones with isolation usually have wider soundstage, headphones with noicecancelling usually sounds less detailed
profingersk8er at 2007-11-15 15:36:25 >
# 10 Re: What type of NOISE CANCELING headphones do you have?
I have the PCX 250's. They sound very good, and fold down to fit in a pouch (supplied). The other comment about the sound quality is right on, they don't quite have the presence of non-noise canceling cans, but they do effectively deaden the droning noise of aircraft engines on long flights and they help reduce fatigue. As they fit on top of, not over or in, the ears, they are good for someone who doesn't like the bud style earphones of the bulk and weight of the over ear. They also come with an airline adapter and a 1/4 phono plug adapter. The price is reasonable compared to the Bose, they are comfortable and show good workmanship.
David Alston at 2007-11-15 15:37:24 >
# 11 Re: What type of NOISE CANCELING headphones do you have?
the ETYs are nice, they have good treble, which i love.

However, I will take less treble and a more defined midrange with my shure E2s for half the price ($80 at guitar center).

They fit fairly the same way, but the shure, for me, hits the right mark for an intermediate budget looking for portability and quality.
ironchef9000 at 2007-11-15 15:38:23 >
# 12 Re: What type of NOISE CANCELING headphones do you have?
Originally posted by David Alston
I have the PCX 250's. They sound very good, and fold down to fit in a pouch (supplied). The other comment about the sound quality is right on, they don't quite have the presence of non-noise canceling cans, but they do effectively deaden the droning noise of aircraft engines on long flights and they help reduce fatigue. As they fit on top of, not over or in, the ears, they are good for someone who doesn't like the bud style earphones of the bulk and weight of the over ear. They also come with an airline adapter and a 1/4 phono plug adapter. The price is reasonable compared to the Bose, they are comfortable and show good workmanship.

This is what I was hoping to hear about them. I was looking at them online yesterday and wondering what peoples real world opinions were about them.

I have had a really good experience with the Sennheisser HD600 that I have at work. They are fantastic but are really only studio headphones.
Verruckt at 2007-11-15 15:39:21 >
# 13 Re: What type of NOISE CANCELING headphones do you have?
Sony MDR-NC11 is quite good, you can get them at a pretty decent price off of ebay. I use to use it, blocks off outside noice very well (70% as it advertised). Only problem is the wiring from the earphones, there is a remote like thing in the middle of a very long cord which you can clip onto your clothes. If you are also going to be using the remote from ipod, you are looking at about 4 feet of wiring dangling around you + 2 things clipped on to your clothes. Very troublesome.
thesexybeast at 2007-11-15 15:40:28 >
# 14 Re: What type of NOISE CANCELING headphones do you have?
I have the MDR-NC11 and I will be getting rid of them, because:

[1] They don't sound very good. I've been using them for a while and they're just muddy compared to my $15 Sennheiser MX400 buds.

[2] I've decided I don't like anything in-canal. Regular buds are OK, but I just dislike anything being wedged directly into my ear canal, so Etys and Shures are out for me.

[3] thesexybeast is right on that the cable situation just isn't very well thought-out.

The noise cancellation is OK on them, but I just bought a set of Sennheiser PXC 250s which both have better cancellation and better sound. The PXC 250 can be had for $89.99 from www.macmall.com; it says 129.99 but when you add it to the shopping cart it drops the price by $40! Very good price.
SunByrne at 2007-11-15 15:41:23 >
# 15 Re: What type of NOISE CANCELING headphones do you have?
Originally posted by SunByrne
but I just bought a set of Sennheiser PXC 250s which both have better cancellation and better sound. The PXC 250 can be had for $89.99 from www.macmall.com; it says 129.99 but when you add it to the shopping cart it drops the price by $40! Very good price.

Sweet! Thanks for the tip, I just ordered a set. :D
Verruckt at 2007-11-15 15:42:24 >
# 16 Re: What type of NOISE CANCELING headphones do you have?
I'm gonna vote for the senn PXC 250s also. I've had the sony noise cancelling phones but they lacked bass and the highs were too bright. The senn has got it just right, good tight bass and clear crisp highs without sounding bright or harsh. I've heard the Bose QCs but they didn't sound right and were too big, also ouch, expensive. The Senn's Noisce cancelling seemed very natural without affecting the music. The bose and sony's did affect the music a bit. The senns active noise cancelling sound like a good normal headphone without NC listened in a quiet place, this is the best way I can describe their NC effect. The Bose seemed to create a very slight, barely audible hiss, so did the sony.
Scud at 2007-11-15 15:43:28 >
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