B&O A8 Earphones
Was wondering if any iPodders have or have used the Bang & Olufsen A8 earphones?
http://www.bang-olufsen.com/Web/Estore/Market/US/Product.asp?ProductID=1640511&ProductTypeID=1
They look like a fantastic design especially compared to the Apple earbuds which seem to just pop right out of my ears.
So any users out there willing to share their experience with this B&O model?
Kat
# 1 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
I personally haven't tried this model, but I've heard reviews ranging from awesome sound to really poor sound...all style and no substance.
# 2 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
I have a pair of B&O's A8, the design is good but the sound very poor and no better then the Apple's. I also heve a pair of Sony EX71's and Shure E2's. If you are prepares to spend that kind of money, the E2's are fantastic. ( Much Much better sound than the B&O's , Apple's & Sony )
iMan at 2007-11-15 15:29:08 >

# 3 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
And of course if one considers the Shure E2c, another really good option (if not better) would be the Etymotic ER6. I have tried the Apple buds, the Sony 70's, the Shure E2c and the Ety's and I got the Ety's. B&O is known the world over for its style which comes at a price. It is not really known as a high fidelity brand.
acg69 at 2007-11-15 15:30:16 >

# 4 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
iMan do you think that your a8 perform poorly due to the lack of significant power amp in the iPod or the EU regulations on volume, or a bit of both?
# 5 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
@ maleablekat
I have compared all 4 pairs ( Sony, Apple, B&O & Shure ) with many different sources and the results were the same:
Sony, Apple, B&O: poor to very poor...
Shure: Outstanding!
iMan at 2007-11-15 15:32:20 >

# 6 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
Noted & Thanks! So do you want to sell your B&O :)
# 7 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
Hi maleablekat.
Like you I find that earbuds (like Apple's) constantly fall out of my ears.
I had a pair of A8's and my flatmate has the Sony EX71 (with the long cord).
Sound quality of the A8 was not anything to talk about (especially at the price) but , IMO, was slightly better than the Apple and Sony earphones. The Sony earphones have more bass but were a little murky/muddy sounding.
The main reason I bought them was because they were incredibly comfortable to wear for long periods of time and could NEVER fall out of my ear (great for jogging).
I lost these babies about 6 months ago and am trying to decide between the Etys or the Shures. I have found a dealer here in Australia unfortunately he is on the other side of the continent. I really want to try them before purchasing
# 8 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
I am going to advise you to ignore all of the "A8's sound the same as iPod earbuds" or "A8's are only marginally better than iPod earbuds" because I have my doubts if the posters actually ever tried a pair of A8's outside of a little two minute demonstration in B&O, if that.
I am going to start off by saying that I am a proud owner of A8s, and I love them. Incredibly crisp mid and high-ends. They will stay in your ear no matter what activity you do because of design, are very comfortable to wear over long periods of time, and they look incredible. I love these so much that I will often use the extension cord, hook them up to my receiver, and watch DVDs with these on over my Klipsch speakers.
On a negative note, they are rather pricey. If you are judging solely by sound quality and no other criteria, then you will probably be happier with another set of earphones. The bass also leaves some to be desired, though this is more of a law of physics (due to the small size of the driver) than a flaw in design. I believe that the smallest earbud-type earphones with strong bass are the in-ear-canal type earbuds like Shures and Etys, but I have not personally tried any of them longer than a few minutes.
I chose the A8s:
1) I wanted ear-bud style earphones and not headsets for portability.
2) I will be using the equipment for working out (running and lifting), so I needed something that will not slip out while I am working out.
3) I needed something I could wear for hours and not get ear fatigue.
4) I needed something with very clear highs. Lows were not as important, since listening to strong bass over several hours tends to give me a headache.
5) I will be using the equipment for walking around in NYC and wanted open-ear design, rather than closed-ear design. It would not be good if I were to get hit by a taxi while crossing the street because I didn't hear it coming. This ruled out in-ear-canal phones.
6) I wanted something that looked distinctive and modern not like plain black plastic earbuds (or white earbuds, for that matter).
What I recommend that you do is that you read user opinions, both positive and negative, and form your own opinions. I do not know how strongly you weigh things like comfort, weight, design, etc as well as audio quality, but I can say that those factors played a strong role in my choice to purchase A8's.
I suggest heading over to http://www.head-fi.org, and http://www.epinions.com and looking up user reviews on these earbuds. I would also suggest bringing your iPod into a B&O store and sampling them for yourself.
Best of luck to you.
# 9 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
i own the a8s but don't use them anymore, imo, they do not sound good for the amount of money they sell for
however they stay in ears very well(especially for running) and very stylish(keep in mind the aluminun WILL damage your ipod's finish if made contact)
the ear muffs never stayed on the phones either, this is a small reason to disapprove but it annoys me
# 10 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
I own them, and think they are superb.
I have many headphones at work and like the eveness of the sound from these. We have the a huge range of top end headphones at work, so I have compared a lot.
It seems to me a lot of people on this forum judge good sound by how much bass there is, rather than a true representation of the sound.
Any headphones can include circuitry of cavities to promote bass, but in doing so, lose real, accurate, replication.
If you want bass there is nothing wrong with wanting that, if you want true reproduction, these are excellent.
# 11 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
B&O always made flashy products with no substance. Their mp3 player was a joke.
# 12 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
I agree...some B&O equipment is form over function and riduculously priced. When I received my A8's last year as a gift, I was dissapointed at first listen. This was probably due to a foregone conclusion in my mind.
After breaking the A8's in and finding the right EQ setting, I couldn't be happier. They really come alive with the EQ set to Treble Booster. And they're much more sensitive than the Apple buds, so they play LOUD and distortion free (dangerously loud if the touchwheel accidentally skips ahead). The design is flawless - they never fall out of place, are comfortable for long periods of time, and they look great. They aren't bass heavy, but they make up for it in detail. The only negative thing I can say about them is that the aluminum posts get painfully cold during Chicago winters.
I find the A8's sound better with the foam covers on. I've used mine almost daily for seven months in and out of the gym and subway, and the original foam covers have not fallen off. The covers fell off my Apple buds the first day.
# 13 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
http://www.unex-t.com/bando.jpg
i have the B&O and this is what i believe:
Pros:
- beautifully designed
- perfect for jogging (they never fall out of the ear)
- very adjustable
- maybe the only B&O item you will ever be able to afford
Cons:
- absolutly no bass at all
- no bass
- zero bass
- and no bass
Sound wise I am very disappointed. Was expecting a lot more. After owning them for 2 years I have recently decided to sell my 20gb ipod, get the blue mini AND get better earphones.. the E2c.
I wont be selling the B&Os because I run often and cant imagine any other earphone more suitable for running.
usurp at 2007-11-15 15:40:25 >

# 14 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
Originally posted by usurp
http://www.unex-t.com/bando.jpg
i have the B&O and this is what i believe:
Pros:
- beautifully designed
- perfect for jogging (they never fall out of the ear)
- very adjustable
- maybe the only B&O item you will ever be able to afford
Cons:
- absolutly no bass at all
- no bass
- zero bass
- and no bass
Sound wise I am very disappointed. Was expecting a lot more. After owning them for 2 years I have recently decided to sell my 20gb ipod, get the blue mini AND get better earphones.. the E2c.
I wont be selling the B&Os because I run often and cant imagine any other earphone more suitable for running.
Very nice. I listened to my A8s for the first time after buying my Etymotic ER-4Ps a few months ago, and I'm still impressed by the A8s. You are very accurate when you say there is no bass, but man, the A8s are probably the most "invisible" earphones I have ever used... you don't feel that they are there, and all you are left with is the music.
BTW, if you're going to get Shures, I would recommend evaluating Etymotics as well. I find that I like the quality of Etymotic sound more than I like the Shure sound. Evaluating is easy if you call Headroom (http://www.headphone.com) or Todd the Vinyl Junkie (http://www.ttvj.com). They might have some B-stock that you can try. If not, both places have excellent return policies with no restocking fees. Plus, you save 10$ off of purchases from Headroom if you're a 10+ poster on Head-Fi.org.
# 15 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
i was gonna buy it from amazon and they list the E2c and the ER6 for 99$
thing is though i am looking for more bass. you would expect to find a lot of clear reviews on both the ER6s and the E2cs but suprisingly I have probably read every review i could find on google and I am still not sure which to get. But the general feel is that the E2s have more bass and are more durable then the ER6.
I live in Kuwait (most kuwait pics on ipod around the world are mine) and i will be ordering the earphones without actually trying them first.. just what i read here online.
usurp at 2007-11-15 15:42:22 >

# 16 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
Originally posted by usurp
i was gonna buy it from amazon and they list the E2c and the ER6 for 99$
thing is though i am looking for more bass. you would expect to find a lot of clear reviews on both the ER6s and the E2cs but suprisingly I have probably read every review i could find on google and I am still not sure which to get. But the general feel is that the E2s have more bass and are more durable then the ER6.
I live in Kuwait (most kuwait pics on ipod around the world are mine) and i will be ordering the earphones without actually trying them first.. just what i read here online.
Go to http://www.head-fi.org for a lot of information about headphone-related information.
In particular, here is a link for an E2C vs ER-6 comparison.
http://www5.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=67507&highlight=e2c+er-6
http://www5.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46165&highlight=e2c+er-6
http://www5.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=52703&highlight=e2c+er-6
The headphones you choose will depend greatly on your personal tastes. However, I think that the ER-6 has a lot more clarity, detail, balance, instrument separation, and a much better sound stage. The bass isn't as strong as the E2C, but it isn't weak either. Balanced would be the correct word to use. I find that the E2C sounds very muddy.
# 17 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
thanks kent. all this reading is just confusing me. one sec E2, one sec E3 and now Er6! urgh!
usurp at 2007-11-15 15:44:23 >

# 18 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
Originally posted by usurp
thanks kent. all this reading is just confusing me. one sec E2, one sec E3 and now Er6! urgh!
Welcome to head-fi. Sorry about your wallet.
# 19 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
interesting to finally read something positive about the A8s; I'm thinking of getting them after trying them at the store, but all of the negative reviews on the forums has made me start to doubt myself.
am I crazy to get them?
crader at 2007-11-15 15:46:26 >

# 20 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
crader, now that i have the Shure E2s I can confidently say.. the A8s sound is crap. really man. I am not audio pro or anything, but the differences between the E2s and A8s are big. The E2s are more comfortable, sound ALOT better, the bass is more, the stereo seperation incredible and the price is really cheap.
yeah the A8s look better and are better if u want to go running since the A8s dont isolate sound... but if you are looking for good sounding earphones.. seriously keep away from the A8s.
i cant believe i wasted nearly 2 years listening to my music with the A8s. I have a lot of catching up to do. Everything sounds much better now.
here are pics of my mini with the A8s and the E2s
A8: http://unex-t.com/blueipod/index-Images/6.jpg
E2: http://unex-t.com/e2/index-Images/1.jpg
usurp at 2007-11-15 15:47:26 >

# 21 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
It seems to me that if you want good looking headphones then get the A8s. I'm looking at getting a pair of E3c's because i want performance.
# 22 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
I am on my third pair of A8s & they really should get replaced soon (the cable is being held together with sellotape after an x-ray machine stripped the plastic off the lead when one earpiece got caught half way through. The other two died at the plug from loose connections.
The positives of the A8 are they are quite comfortable and superb if you want to run or cycle in them. They also look lovely.
The arms are quite convenient for hooking onto shirt buttons when you need to take them off for short periods of time.
The negatives - the sound quality isn't great but I find this with all B&O kit. It's not necessarily the depth of bass but the overall range and detail which makes it quite tiring after a few hours. It all sounds pretty flat. This might be OK with most rock etc where everything seems to be recorded 'loud' with lots of clipping but for a well recorded disk you just don't get the detail.
They do, as was previously noted, get very cold. I tried them skiing & apart from the cold the bars also created a fair amount of wind noise & started to drag them off.
I have had really bad experiences with the foam covers - for me they fall off far too easily. I have not bothered with them for some time now & I think the ones with the last pair are probably still in their packages.
Are they worth it? For sound quality no, for being lovely things (especially for sport) then probably yes. Will I get another pair? The rational part of me would say no - but then it said no twice before & on both occasions lost.
# 23 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
i agree with andrewm, sound quality wise not the best choice, but if you do physical activities like running, cycling, snow sports etc they are perfect for them, i've tried many other earphones and nothing can beat the a8s
and yes, the foams are bs, unless you superglue them they won't stay on
# 24 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
yeah exactly. i use my shure e2s all the time, they are my primary phones.
but when i go running nothing is better then the B&Os. they sound crap but i can still hear whats going on around me and they never fall out of my ears. perfect for running.
usurp at 2007-11-15 15:51:32 >

# 25 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
I've been a proud owner of the A8s for more than a year now. I feel that no, the earphones definitely don't sound crappy, and they DO definitely sound better than the stock ipod earphones. It's not so much the bass(which is pretty weak) but the overall clarity that everything is produced at, it's all very crisp.
I've used in ear earphones and althought they do sound good, they're just too compromised for everyday use, especially if you're a person who likes to leave the earphones in your ear for fear of snagging them onto something and ripping them apart. Try talking/eating/drinking with your fingers in your ears and you'll know what i mean. Nevertheless, i do admit that they're great, especially for times when you want peace and quiet with your music(plane/bus etc)
# 26 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
Ressurecting a dead thread!
Any still looking at these earphones should still take them for a whirl.
Best sound reproduction there is. As for bass response, if you physically push them into your ear canal a little bit, it actually sounds like there are subwoofers... so it really is how well the earbuds set in your ears.
These are the most transparent earbuds I have ever heard. You will many times hear things you have never heard before in your music... including flaws... I can diagnose noisy power-amps on the fly with them.
# 27 Re: B&O A8 Earphones
Here's my opinion about the A8's -- I like them...
First, they sound aesthetically pleasing -- they sound great. Interestingly, they sound very good with classical, electronic, and vocal music, as you can hear instruments in the background (more fine guitar and violin sounds) that weren't noticable with my other headphones. There is less bass than I expected, but I personally don't care for too much bass in my ears (although I DO prefer it in my car). The sound out of the earphones is more crisp and clear than loud and heavy. There is accurate reproduction of sounds, giving the music a more "live" or "concert" feel. Again, less bass means that these earphones are probably not the most ideal for rap or heavy rock songs. But don't get me wrong, because they still sound great with these types of music. The vocal sounds are also wonderful. The singer's voice is quite crisp. In addition, what I like about the earphones is that you can still hear the outside world, so you won't get run over by a car while biking or running. (Note, that there is also little leakage, so people beside you on the bus or train shouldn't have to hear your music.)
How do they look? Well, they just look really cool. They have a small and delicate appearance and are made of high-grade aluminum (earpieces and side bars) and rubber (around the speakers and the piece that folds over your ear) to give you strength and durability, as well as classy looks. (Note that durability does not seem to be a problem because, after you register them, the A8's come with a 3-year-warranty from Bang & Olufsen.) They just look expensive. I think, for people who like earphones/earbuds, these are one of the better looking pairs. (You may or may not know that Tom Cruise wore the B&O A8 earpiece in "The Minority Report" movie -- so obviously Hollywood thought they were nice!)
Are they comfortable? I have noticed, from trying various earbuds, that my right ear hole is a bit smaller than my left! Yes, strange as this may sound, I find myself always trying to push the right side in to keep it from falling out. The great thing about the B&O's is that it really isn't that much of a problem even though, at times, I still found myself pushing in the right side. But, they fit so well around your ear that THEY WON'T fall off anyways. You can run, dance, ski, or whatever active thing you want to do, and the earphones will stay in. You can pull the cord from your player and the earphones will stay in your ear. There are 3 types of adjustments you can do that allow you to have this type of support around the ear: 1) The rubber earpiece folds over your ear to hug around your ear lobe as tight as you would like it 2) You can raise the aluminum earpiece up and down a couple of centimeters to find the right fit and 3) The earpiece can tilt towards your ear in case you need to push it in against your earhole. They are quite comfortable -- you might not even notice you have them on.
Now, if you are using the headphones with an iPod, know that they are only available in black. They do not come in white or silver. I knew this before buying them. However, I didn't care because they match my black Krusell leather iPod case. Also, for some of you who may be worried about getting your iPod robbed or stolen if people see those "white earphones" on the streets, be aware that this may confuse would-be thiefs!
Overall, I think they are very nice earphones. They sound clean and accurate and look stunning. The problem I think is the cost. They retail for $160.00 (USD), so this is quite expensive. If you are looking for a mid-end to high-end earphone and don't have to worry about how much to pay, then I would recommend them. If you are uneasy about spending this much on earphones, I probably would think about it. In my mind, I believe they are overpriced. It seems you are paying more for the B&O name, so you could most likely find a comparable or better pair for the same cost. For me, I wanted a pair of excellent-sounding portable earphones that I could exercise with, as well as also be able to listen to sharp, resonating smooth sounds in my home. You can definitely do both with these.
Ok, hope this helps! It's all about your preference and what you like, but that's my opinion.
Enjoy!!!!
Missile
