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Shure E2c sounds tinny - whats wrong?

Absolutely nothing like I thought they would sound, ESPECIALLY for $100 US! They sound tinny and there's virtually no bass at all (EQ - Rock). Extremely, extremely disappointed here. I could have paid $19.99 to get this quality of sound. Tell me I'm doing something wrong!
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[299 byte] By [rslifka] at [2007-11-9 12:55:29]
# 1 Re: Shure E2c sounds tinny - whats wrong?
I don't have that much bass in my Shures either. I get very clear sound from them and lots of isolation. I think that is what they are for.

IMHO lots of Bass does not mean high quality or expensive. If you want overbass, go with the Sony EX71's.
psxguy85 at 2007-11-15 15:28:13 >
# 2 Re: Shure E2c sounds tinny - whats wrong?
RTFM Slifka, RTFM... The manual says that the fit in your ear makes a big difference, so I took off the rubber sleeves and put on the foam ones (that expand to fill your ear canal).

O. M. G.

Night and day.

Now I feel good about my purchase! :)

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rslifka at 2007-11-15 15:29:13 >
# 3 Re: Shure E2c sounds tinny - whats wrong?
lol. What I hear is that the small foam sleeves are most popular with users of the E2. I only use the small sleeves. The rubber ones do not work with my ears.
psxguy85 at 2007-11-15 15:30:22 >
# 4 Re: Shure E2c sounds tinny - whats wrong?
Seal is critical on these. Someone else posted this before, but what I'd recommend is moistening the foam tips before insertion--simple, but makes a world of difference--you get a much better seal, better sound, and easier insertion. If you do this, you may actually need to go up one size from what your were using--but try it, makes a huge difference IMHO...
dmt1 at 2007-11-15 15:31:15 >
# 5 Re: Shure E2c sounds tinny - whats wrong?
I just got a pair of E2's as well and my reaction was the same...where did all the bass go? I'm don't listen to much hip-hop or the like, so I'm not exaclty looking for huge amounts of bass...but it seems like it is virtually not there...

They do give you tremendous isolation and crisp sound though...I'll give em that much. Still, in general they were kind of a letdown.
dbart2 at 2007-11-15 15:32:14 >
# 6 Re: Shure E2c sounds tinny - whats wrong?
I thought the bass was very good for earbuds. I used them (and my iPod) today for the first time in the gym, and I was very, very pleased. Even without playing music, the headphones drowned out a whole ton of noise. Felt like I was wearing earplugs, which I kind of was I guess ;)

I especially like the heavy duty cord on the E2s. Doesn't flap around all over the place, and the way that the two cords are joined... awesome. I couldn't be happier!

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rslifka at 2007-11-15 15:33:24 >
# 7 Re: Shure E2c sounds tinny - whats wrong?
I just got a pair myself and the getting the proper fit is a real bear. I don't really like any of the options (and they gave me six!). I was sure hoping htat the silcone covers would work because I liked the idea of permanent covers that didn't need frequent replacing. But none of htem provided any sort of seal and everything sounded tinny. The foamys are better, but they don't stay in very well.

I'm thinking of trying to make my oen foam plugs using Hearo's from the dug store. The Hearos are longer and softer pliable than the foamies supplied with the E2c's and think they will fit better. I just need to find some plastic tubing of hte right diameter. I did something similar to the Koss Plugs and it helped dramatically.

However, that doesn't take care of the need to replace them frequently (though it will drive down the price of buying replacements). Does anyone know if the Ety replacement tips (http://www.headphone.com/layout.php?topicID=13&subTopicID=64&productID=0060100040) work with the e2's?
rtimmel at 2007-11-15 15:34:17 >
# 8 Re: Shure E2c sounds tinny - whats wrong?
I can only point you to this (http://www.xsorbit1.com/users/dennx/index.cgi?board=ipodgear&action=display&num=1030233203&start=107#107) post which may help you with getting a decent sound tight fit with earplug earphones. You really have to get them as deep as possible for the best sound.

Get pulling on those mid Helix/Antihelix points!!
Bob at 2007-11-15 15:35:20 >
# 9 Re: Shure E2c sounds tinny - whats wrong?
Originally posted by rtimmel
...But none of htem provided any sort of seal and everything sounded tinny. The foamys are better, but they don't stay in very well.


Did you crunch up the foam and let it expand in your ear for 30s like the manual said?

Do you have like the biggest ear canals EVER? :) j/k

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rslifka at 2007-11-15 15:36:27 >
# 10 Re: Shure E2c sounds tinny - whats wrong?
I can't imagine anyone using the largest size foamies...You could maybe get a tampon, and fashion that into an ear plug, it's going to look funny (although they ought to be fairly easy to remove), but that's probably the only thing that's going to fit if the large foamies don't.

Seriously, try moistening the foamies before you put them in--it really does make a world of difference. I know I'm sounding like a broken record, but fit is EVERYTHING with these suckers--you really have to get them in deep--see Bob's excellent link--and when you do, you're off in your own little world...
dmt1 at 2007-11-15 15:37:28 >
# 11 Re: Shure E2c sounds tinny - whats wrong?
I've also had problems with the E2's. As previously reported, getting them in all the way is critical if you want bass response.

The permanent covers don't work at all for me. I've been using the medium-sized foam covers. I go running with them. Usually, they're ok for the first 15-20 minutes, but after that, one or both will usually start getting loose and eventually fall out.

I think it may be because since I start sweating when i run, perhaps the inside of my ear also gets moist enough to loosen them. I can tell you that it really is frustrating.

I've also been thinking about making my own covers. I recently bought a pair of earplugs for musicians (Guitar Center). They still let the sound thru, but cut the db's by quite a bit. They're made out of a rubber compound, with concentric, winged circles that fit snugly in my ear. They have a small hole throughout the center of the plug. My thinking was to try to drill out the hole just large enough to fit tightly over the tube of the E2's.

I'll probably give it a try in the near future, but you're more than welcome to try it yourself and report back.

Admin Edit: Dapipes2 I deleted your duplicate of this post - give the post time to load, it is slow sometimes :)
Dapipes2 at 2007-11-15 15:38:27 >
# 12 Re: Shure E2c sounds tinny - whats wrong?
Dapipes: try moistening them BEFORE you go jogging and then put them in--since doing this I've not had a problem with them moving, and I can get the in deeper...Sounding like a broken Sounding like a broken sounding like a broken sounding like a broken record....
dmt1 at 2007-11-15 15:39:25 >
# 13 Re: Shure E2c sounds tinny - whats wrong?
There's nothing wrong with you E2's, that's the way they sound. Try the E1's. Can't figure out why they're being ingored on this board.
Mr Big at 2007-11-15 15:40:32 >
# 14 Re: Shure E2c sounds tinny - whats wrong?
'cause they're $199? =)

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rslifka at 2007-11-15 15:41:26 >
# 15 Re: Shure E2c sounds tinny - whats wrong?
The E1's cost $119 at the Guitar Center.
Mr Big at 2007-11-15 15:42:28 >
# 16 Re: Shure E2c sounds tinny - whats wrong?
The E1's are a reasonable alternative. But, the E1's are not built as sturdy as the E2's (they are meant more for stationary listening as opposed to active listening, like the E2's). Some people have complained that the corners of the E1's are uncomfortable. And there is differences of opinion on which actually sound better--the irony being that one of the criticisms of the E1's is that they sound too tinny to some, with not enough bass. In fact, the E2's were designed with this specifically in mind...

Again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and it depends on what you're using them for. If it's going to be quiet listening, the E1's merit consideration, but if you want to use a portable bud for activity, IMHO the E2' s are the better choice..
dmt1 at 2007-11-15 15:43:32 >
# 17 Re: Shure E2c sounds tinny - whats wrong?
The E1's are smaller, so more people will be able to have a good fit with them. The small sleeves of the E2 are what the majority of people use.
psxguy85 at 2007-11-15 15:44:29 >
# 18 Re: Shure E2c sounds tinny - whats wrong?
come on guys....is bass the only thing you guys look for in sound??

when i buy headphones...bass come in last. you guys may think im crazy, but there are lots of things to look for in headphones other then bass

what about:
transparency?
mid range?
high range?
smooth sound?
easy to drive?

E2 are great phones simply becaue they sound soo nautral and smooth...if you guys want bass, go buy yourself some overpriced sony dj headphones
profingersk8er at 2007-11-15 15:45:34 >
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