shure e2c
anyone out there with shure e2c . are they worth ? please tell me what you think.:eek:
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reid] at [2007-11-9 12:04:43]

# 1 Re: shure e2c
I bought a pair of e2c's at Guitar Center, $80. They sound great, I mean really great. They are a little hard to get used to though, they fit IN the ear, you can't hear a thing with them in.
# 2 Re: shure e2c
thankyou for the feedback are they comfortable ? or do they hurt the ear after some time ? do they fit good, the part outside the ear canal? thankyou again
reid at 2007-11-15 15:29:18 >

# 3 Re: shure e2c
Comfort that's the part I'm having problems with. They give you three different sizes of ear tips and three sizes of foam ear thingies. It took a little experimentation to get the right size. But eventually you get it.
# 4 Re: shure e2c
In the coming weeks, I'll be writing a review of the Shure E2c's for iPodlounge - keep an eye out for a link to it on the main page.
I'm not sure when the review will be ready (I haven't received the earphones yet!), but I'll try to remember this thread and post a message when the review is online.
Tom
# 5 Re: shure e2c
I think they are an excellent mobile earphone. With the foam tips they are very comfortable. Sound quality is pretty good, an excellent match for the mobile Ipod user!
Dunbar at 2007-11-15 15:32:21 >

# 6 Re: shure e2c
Originally posted by tntracy
In the coming weeks, I'll be writing a review of the Shure E2c's for iPodlounge - keep an eye out for a link to it on the main page.
I'm not sure when the review will be ready (I haven't received the earphones yet!), but I'll try to remember this thread and post a message when the review is online.
Tom
Great, now you decide to do it, after I just ORDERED THEM!!!
Actually, ordered them a week ago...still waiting...impatiently...:rolleyes:
dmt1 at 2007-11-15 15:33:32 >

# 7 Re: shure e2c
I just got them over the weekend at Guitar Center and I am still having problems with comfort. I also have a Sony EX-51LP (similar to EX-70LP) and they are very comfortable for me, so I am used to the in-ear type of phones. The flex tips for the E2c are thick and stiff so they are very uncomfortable and doesn't fit right. Thus, I am using the foam. I started out using the large and now have switched to medium, but my ear still hurts (specifically the hole) after an extended time.
Also I was a little disappointed with the E2c. With the ipod, the high was bit soft and the bass was little lacking, but when I listened to them using my laptop and receiver, they were much much better and I am starting to like them much more. Now I just need to get comfortable with them.
doboy at 2007-11-15 15:34:24 >

# 8 Re: shure e2c
Ok, I am anxiously awaiting Tom's comparison of the E2's to the ETY4's, but in the meantime I have gotten my E2's, and here is my impression as compared to the sony EX's:
A little background on how I use my ipod: (mainly to help anyone reading this to determine wether my opinion will be worthwhile or not with regards to your own listening habits):
I play it all day at work, hooked up to a nice set of AltecLansing speakers with a subwoofer, hooked up into the headphone jack--the ipod drives them with no problem, and they sound fantastic. At home, I use Grado SR 60's, at the gym, I use portable earphones--until recently, EX70's, now E2's.
Sound: The E2's blow the EX70's away. Not even close here. The E2's are MUCH more transparent--music is crystal clear on the E2's; I didn't realize how muddled the EX70's sounded until I directly compared them to the E2's. The treble is much brighter in the E2's. The bass is less prominent, but MUCH clearer, as are the drums. The E2's are driven by the ipod much better than the EX's--I use 2/3's the volume on the E2's--I can turn the volume all the way up on the EX's, I'd blow my eardrums out if I tried that with the E2's. The E2's remind me very much of the Grado SR 60's; they're kind of like an earphone equivalent--if you love the Grado's, chances are you're going to like the E2's too.
Comfort: The E2's are not quite as comfortable as the EX's--but they're close. They are a little bit heavier, and it takes little time to figure out what gives you the best fit--I prefer the medium sized silicone sleeves myself--and seal is absolutely critical with the E2's, otheriwise you have no bass. One nice thing is though is once the E2's are in, they aren't going anywhere. They come over the top and then behind your ear; the cords to each earphone are equal in length from where they split from the main cord, unlike the EX70's (something that always bothered me about the EX's). I've had problems with the EX's moving or falling out at the gym; the E2's are so secure once properly in they don't move at all.
Isolation: They both do a good job at isolation, but the E2's are a notch better than the EX's. Bottom line, I wouldn't go bike riding or walking in the street with EITHER pair.
Cord noise: There is some cord noise during exercise with the EX's, slightly annoying, but tolerable. There is absolutely none with the E2's, probably because of the relatively thicker cord. They are simply fantastic for exercise.
Durability: Build of the E2's appears superior--the main cord is thicker than the EX's, and less prone to tangle. The earphones themselves appear sturdier, especially the junction of the cord to the earphones.
The EWB (Earwax Buildup) factor: It's recommended you use the included wax guards with the E2's--but the apertures are so much bigger, and the earphones so much easier to clean than the EX's, I haven't used it. They are easier to clean/take care of.
One note about the E2's: it doesn't have a short cord with an extension, like the EX's. This is not a major issue unless you like the remote--I do, but the E2's are so much better, I'm going without the remote.
Bottom line: E2's are now my pick for relatively affordable ($85.00) portable buds for exercise. They are IMHO DEFINITELY worth the extra money in comparison to the EX's. I also think they are fantastic buy as a portable earbud for those looking for an isolation type bud not necessarily for exercise.
Now I am 100% sure that the Etys sound better than the E2's (although I haven't had the opportunity to check the Etys' out). But the Ety's are not a good earphone for strenuous activity; otherwise I would have considered forking over the $270.00 for them. But I am very interested to see Tom's direct comparison...
dmt1 at 2007-11-15 15:35:26 >

# 9 Re: shure e2c
Chris,
Thanks for your review. I have a pair of the e2c's and while it took awhile to get used to them and figure out the best way to place them in my ear, I really enjoy their sound. The only problem that I have is that the sound isolation is so good, I can only use them in situations where I'm sure no one is going to talk to me!
:)
# 10 Re: shure e2c
I have earphones and headsets kicking around all over the place here, and I have to say that I dig the Shures, no question; I only have minor quibbles with them.
--The Sony EX70s are great in a quiet environment--I use them every day for transcribing in my office--but they don't cut it out in the real world. You have to blast your ears to walk through NYC while listening to music, plus you get an annoying 'howling wind' noise from the cord if you walk while wearing them.
--The Bose Quiet-Comfort headphones--you know, those noise-reducing headphones they advertise in all the airline magazines--are pretty sweet, but you don't want to walk down the street with them on. Also, their bass response is a little odd. Great for a train- or plane ride if you're not self-conscious about their big look.
--Future Sonics Ear Monitors. These are great. I wore them a lot until I was given the Shures, and I'd still recommend them to anyone. They do a great job of blocking out the outside world; you could listen to the foulest Yoko Ono screech-a-thon on the bus, hear every skull-shattering noise and no one will be the wiser. They're less bulky than the Shures (the cord is much thinner) and I found the sound to be about the same. Don't like the pouch they came in (it's flimsy and the cushions get grubby in there pretty fast), but that's about my only issue.
--The Shures. Love 'em--they sound great, especially on the street; you can hear all the lows without blasting your iPod, thus saving your precious hearing. The cord is bulkier than I'd like, but it wraps up neatly in the cool zip-up hockey puck case that they come in. My major problem is that you have to wear them so that the cord runs down your back, which is fine in the winter when you are just burying it under your jacket or coat. Now that it's summer though, I feel like a dope walking along with a cord hanging off the back of my head for all the world to see. I'm just waiting for some wiseass to yank it and rip my ears off in the process.
Regardless of what you choose, upgrading from the iPod earphones is a smart move. Using monitors that fit into the ear canal may be initially worrisome, but providing you turn down your volume (and you'll want to, believe me), you'll be taking better care of your hearing and you'll reduce ear fatigue. Congrats on a smart purchase!
Clive at 2007-11-15 15:37:36 >

# 11 Re: shure e2c
These are really a lot more along the lines of the Ety ER-6's, they are not even close to being considered a "bargain" ER-4.
These things have NO high end.
Bass is fine (slightly heavy for my taste, but not bad).
Mid-range is excellent.
High frequencies are non-existant. Cymbals, violins, etc, have no detail whatsoever. It sounds worse than muffled. It's muted completely. I tried different foamies, silicone (including the Ety E-20 plugs), different sources (Ipod, receiver + META42m, etc). Different music, nothing helped at all. I kept switching back and forth with my EX-70's, and couldn't beleive what I was hearing. The E2's certainly provide more isolation, and a more detailed, full sound in the low and mids, but the cut off high range make these phones unwearable for me. They are extremely tiring to listen to.
I also own both the ER6, and the ER-4p, and would reccomend the ER-6 for sound over the E2C's if you cant spring for the ER-4's (which may be borderline overkill for an Ipod, but I use them elsewhere also)..
I would also reccomend the Senheisser MX-500 ($20) well over the Shures. A also think the Sony 888's ($65) are much better than the Shures if you don't need the isolation.
# 12 Re: shure e2c
I had the ER-6 and returned them for the ER-4, I also own the E2. I would recommend the E2 over the ER-6. I found the ER-6 high end to be somewhat shrill. It's interesting to swap between the E2 and ER-4. The Ety's sound topheavy initially after listening to the E2. Anyways, I do think the ER-4 is the best earphone available but they suck if used while moving and are pricey. I think the E2 is a much better mobile earphone and obviously is a better value (at $80.)
Dunbar at 2007-11-15 15:39:30 >

# 13 Re: shure e2c
Have to agree with Dunbar here...Not even going to touch the Ety4's vs E2's, I've checked alot of audiophile sites, and there is not a single one that hasn't said the Ety 4's were superior. The Ety6's however are another matter--seems to be a matter of debate, and personal preference. But again, I was after the best earphone I could find for strenuos activity, and IMHO the E2 is the best in that category--at least for me. The Ety4's are I'm sure significantly superior; in fact I was going to get them, until I read that they are not all that great for working out because of cord noise (and several people have confirmed that both here and on several headphone sites.). So, on an airplane, or bus, or whatever, the Ety4's are going to be the hands down winner. But for working out, IMHO, from what I've read, and now having used, the E2's, I would wholeheartedly recommend them--especially for the price.
dmt1 at 2007-11-15 15:40:37 >

# 14 Re: shure e2c
I just picked up a pair from Guitar Center today. They sound fantastic compared to what I was using, which was some Sony in-ear MDR-A30's. They do take some getting used to for comfort, but I'm sure they'll wear in. I do wish that Shure would offer the tri-level ear things like what Etymotic has. The included plastic earpieces are way too stiff and even the small ones made my ears hurt in just a few minutes. Now I'm using the small foam ones and that's much better. I'll definately be keeping these, but probably will get some ER-4P's as well.
clintb at 2007-11-15 15:41:32 >

# 15 Re: shure e2c
Clintb:
Funny you should bring that up about the triple flange (like the Etys). Shure does make a triple flange for the E1's and the E5's, but I doubt it would fit the E2's. I emailed them to ask this specifically, and if there are any triple flanges available for the E2's either now or in the future if the E1 triple flanges (which you can order seperately) don't fit (still waiting to hear back from them). I suspect though, from the angled design of the E2's, a triple flange probably won't work...
dmt1 at 2007-11-15 15:42:34 >

# 16 Re: shure e2c
I can't help but wonder what Shure was thinking when they designed the plastic earpieces for the E2's. They are just too thick and uncomfortable. They don't mould to your ear canal at all. The foam is ok, but it'll wear out and I dread finding replacements.
clintb at 2007-11-15 15:43:38 >

# 17 Re: shure e2c
Clintb,
You can order replacements for the foam inserts from shure at:
www.shure.com, I think they're around $10 for a set of ten in one size.
Dave
# 18 Re: shure e2c
I just used the small foamies today--they're pretty decent--I'm going to order a set if the triple flange isn't available...
dmt1 at 2007-11-15 15:45:40 >

# 19 Re: shure e2c
I have a pair. I like them and used them on a long flight recently. They did a good job of isolating the sound so that I could hear the music. Overall, they sound pretty awesome. They do fit down into the ear canal and can take a little bit of time to get used to.
# 20 Re: shure e2c
If you want the best iPod experience you can get IMHO, then GET the ultimate setup for your iPod. I am using a "Headroom Airhead" headphone amp chained to my iPod with the Etymotic ER-6 earbuds. These earbuds give 15-20 db of isolation from outside sounds and it really seems like the music is literally inside your head.. IMHO the Ec2's are thin in comparison to the ER-6's. I tried them and took them back 30 min. after I bought them. They are way to thin for me, which is my own personal opinion for what that is worth. The headroom carries the largest selection of headphones for audiophiles I have seen yet. Here is a link to The HeadRoom site:
http://headroom.headphone.com/
The real boost to any headphone is the power applied to them and most portables can't drive highend headphones or earbuds the way they were meant to be driven. The Airhead amp remedies this quite nicely thank you very much.
I also use their iPod gearbag which holds the amp and iPod as one unit. This bag is available for the older or the new iPod and it works beautifully. This is all just my own opinion and probably matters not one iota to anyone. LOL.
Peace!
# 21 Re: shure e2c
The Shure E2's are the first higher quality headphones I've had. I highly recommend them, they are very good for the price you can get them for.
A headphone amp is useful with the E2's, I use Xin's Super Mini v6 amp, it is perfect and very small.
Do NOT get the E6's. Sorry, but I auditioned them and the quality just doesn't compare to the E2's + Amp. If you want to go the Ety route, go directly to the ER-4P's if you do not want to use an amp. They are optimized for non-amp usage.
I would get the ER-4P's plus the 4P-->4S conversion cable
I hope this helps somewhat :p ;)
# 22 Re: shure e2c
Anyone from the EU used these? - what are they like with the reduced volume levels, i assume since you dont need them turned up as loud these should be a good purchase with an EU iPod
# 23 Re: shure e2c
Well I can tell you that with a US model ipod I definately play them at a lower volume level than I do with the apple earbuds. With the apple's I'm at about 75%, the shure's about 50%.
# 24 Re: shure e2c
Ditto that--they need very little oomph to drive them--they are MUCH louder at the same volume setting than EX70's which I was using before...
dmt1 at 2007-11-15 15:51:44 >

# 25 Re: shure e2c
Cheers guys, im going to try and pick up a pair when im in the US in a few weeks, can anyone tell me some sort of retail outlet that sells them cheap (i dont mean like $10) but i hear peeps say "guitar center" and im wondering if thats a chain, or just one shop?
# 26 Re: shure e2c
Its a chain, where are you going to visit? Here's their website, hopefully there's one where you'll be. I bought mine at the Guitar Center for $80.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/index_java.shtml
# 27 Re: shure e2c
Hi Guys
Had the Ipod for a week or so - love it to death. I also have the excellent Nomad Jukebox 3 which easily sounds as good as the ipod but not as pretty.
I regularly use the Etymotic ER4P's with both players and they sound excellent - you don't need an amp as they are wonderfully efficient.
I also have the ER6's but I'm afraid I'm struggling to like these - they do sound great when listening to classical music at low levels but get bright when you turn up the volume. They are not as efficient as the 4P's but can still be driven well by the Ipod and NJB3.
For walking around I tend to use the superb Koss KSC-35's - although they are perhaps a little bass heavy they work very well with the players and have a very 'musical' sound.
# 28 Re: shure e2c
dmarcus48:...I'm off to San Antonio and San Francisco, and there is a guitar center in SF, thanks for the link!! Hope these are worth it..lol..i've heard nothing but good things really.
# 29 Re: shure e2c
scottishpod...I really enjoy mine. I had alittle problem at first getting used to them and finding the correct earpiece to use. Now the only problem is that when they're on I can't hear anything else. Even if someone's standing next to me, I can't hear them.
# 30 Re: shure e2c
Im sure they'll be great. :)
Is there much of a difference in isolation between using the foam or the rubber plugs? - what keeps the most noise out?, or is it really just for fit?
# 31 Re: shure e2c
IMHO there is slightly more isolation with the rubber plugs wedged in as far as they'll go, BUT, the foamies are much, much more comfortable, and the isolation is still pretty darned good with the foamies, and it's easier (at least for me) to get a good seal with the foamies (without a good seal, you lose the bass).
As someone else previoulsy posted, the rubber plugs are just too thick, and I think this makes them less than ideal from a comfort standpoint.
I actually emailed Shure to see if there was a triple flanged plug available or in the works for the E2's (The Shure E1's and E5's have a triple flange available), but they aren't going to make one for the E2's. I've gotten so used to the foamies now anyway, it really doesn't matter to me anymore...
dmt1 at 2007-11-15 15:58:57 >

# 32 Re: shure e2c
Cool, i'll just make sure i buy plenty of replacement foamies if they are the ones i think are best. Cheers for the input guys!
# 33 Re: shure e2c
I have read a few posts about these earphones and am looking at buying a pair. Just thought I would gather as many opinions as I can here before purchasing. They seem like they really do the job for the ipod.
# 34 Re: shure e2c
A quick search of the forums would have given you more than enough fuel for thought e.g. this thread (http://www.ipodlounge.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1883)
Please check to see if your question has been asked before - some topics have on more than one occassion.
I am merging this post with an existing Shure E2 post.
Bob at 2007-11-15 16:01:53 >

# 35 Re: shure e2c
Where can I buy these earplugs other then online? like best buy etc. I don't think my parents will like the idea of me spending all the money i've saved up on $80 earbudss. I'd much rather tell them I spend like $20 on them :D
# 36 Re: shure e2c
Some people have found them at vendors such as "guitar center". I had to buy my online; Best Buy for example, doesn't carry them, and I couldn't find any place in my area that did..
dmt1 at 2007-11-15 16:04:00 >

# 37 Re: shure e2c
I'm so glad this web site exists. I just ordered my first I-pod ever (15GB for Windows),and I know I'm going to have loads of questions...
I've heard some pretty good things about the Sennheisers,and from what I've read,they give good performance for the price($15-30.). You could also check out one of web-sites devoted to ear+headphones. I forget the names,but they were mentioned a couple of posts back. I got an incredible amount of info. from these sites,and they cover the whole pricing gamut.
Also, check out E-Bay. I've come across the Shure E2c's for $65,and for some of them, if you use the "Buy It Now" option,you could pay a little more-maybe $75. tops. I'm also doing the same for the Ety's. I've seen some good prices for them too using E-Bay.
You could also use the "My Favourites" option to keep a watch on the prices as well. That way you could comparison shop. I've tried going to some of the "name" stores like Best Buy,and all I got were blank looks,and some of the high end audio stores were just as bad.I resorted to places like E-Bay out of annoyance,and am having a better go of it. If you do do the E-Bay option,just take care to check out the feedback on the sellers.
I hope this helps...best of luck.
P.S.,sorry for the length of the post.
