Ow!
Here's a little iPod story for you all:
Today I was walking along with my iPod in my front shirt pocket. I go to pull it out to switch songs (the remote wasn't in), and it fell from my hands! I watched in horror as the 'Pod hit the concrete sidewalk, bounce, hit it again, bounce and go into the gutter! I must say I've never been so scared in my life. A 20 Gig iPod...in the gutter. I picked it up. There was a dent in 2 of the corners of the front. No real dents in the back metal piece. A few little scratches on the screen...minor...nothing that iCleaner Pro stuff wouldn't take care of.
But the iPod (so far) works perfectly! Amazing! But what a shock, that's for sure!
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burnbomb] at [2007-11-9 12:16:07]
# 1 Re: Ow!
Ah! I cringed as I read about it bouncing onto the concrete! Glad it still works.
# 2 Re: Ow!
I am the luckiest man on the planet...
# 3 Re: Ow!
... says burnbomb as a flock of geese fly straight into his face.
# 4 Re: Ow!
I had my iPod dropped on the ground twice. It is still working perfectly. I always have my iPod protected with case so there is no dents at all.
Good luck!
jjclub at 2007-11-15 15:15:02 >
# 5 Re: Ow!
Originally posted by vkeks05
... says burnbomb as a flock of geese fly straight into his face.
or I get run over by a mountie on his horse...
# 6 Re: Ow!
Hehe, I only dropped my ipod once, a small fall (about 2 feet unto the carpet, with the apple supplied case on...) shouldn't be damaged right? (*stares nervously at Ipod*)
# 7 Re: Ow!
Update: So since I was tired of seeing my iPod with a few dents and such, I decided to take it back to the store. It was within 15 days...luckily, they will either a) Exchange it or b) Give me my money back. However, I want an exchange, so maybe I can convince them to instead give me a 15 or even 30 GB 3rd gen, if they can't find a 2nd gen 20 gigger. I'd be happy with either or. Life is good :)
# 8 Re: Ow!
whoa mate, that's a scary ordeal. Glad you could retrieve it, and it wasnt raining ;)
# 9 Re: Ow!
Originally posted by burnbomb
Update: So since I was tired of seeing my iPod with a few dents and such, I decided to take it back to the store. It was within 15 days...luckily, they will either a) Exchange it or b) Give me my money back. However, I want an exchange, so maybe I can convince them to instead give me a 15 or even 30 GB 3rd gen, if they can't find a 2nd gen 20 gigger. I'd be happy with either or. Life is good :)
I'd like to know what store will give you a refund or exchange with a product you don't want anymore because you dropped it!! ;)
# 10 Re: Ow!
Well, I lied about the battery life lasting only 5 hours or something. They believed it, and since it was within the whole "Before 15 days if you aren't satisfied" rule, it was fine.
# 11 Re: Ow!
So, just to recap:
1. You accidentally damage your ipod
2. It happened within the 15 day return policy that the dealer offers
3. You LIE to them about a problem with it, to get them to eat the cost of your accident.
Nice. Real nice. Is it any wonder why we pay so much for stuff these days. Dealers and manufacturers probably jack up the cost of equipment to deal with people who lie and return products.
Sad.
FWIW, there are credit cards out there that protect you from such things, legally. My American Express card has a 60 day, no matter what, return or repair policy. Bought a laptop, my wife spilled a coke on it a few weeks later, and AMEX paid to fix it.
Dan
# 12 Re: Ow!
Originally posted by burnbomb
Well, I lied about the battery life lasting only 5 hours or something. They believed it, and since it was within the whole "Before 15 days if you aren't satisfied" rule, it was fine.
oh yeah, everything's just "fine" alright. No wonder the rest of the world hates us. LIARS, CHEATS, THIEVES... people always wanting others to pay for their own stupidity, as if it's not their fault.
I can't wait to see what this country is like in another 10 years. it's already not pretty, and it isn't getting any better.
thanks for your help. :rolleyes:
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Well, considering I could have bought an extended warrenty, that would have been ok. But no, that wasn't good enough. Know what they would have done? If it was 300 dollars or under, and something like that (Yes, even DROPPING it) happened, you'd get a replacement right away. Over 300 bucks? You'd have to give it to them, and they'd send it away for repair. Unacceptable. Johnny Doe with his $250 MP3 player gets a new one if he drops it, but I gotta wait 2 weeks AT LEAST for my iPod? No thanks. I don't have a Best Buy or anything like that in town, just that freaking store, that's why I had to do that. Oh, and me dropping the iPod was an accident on my behalf, but you can look at it from a different perspective: The headphone jack shouldn't have come out that easily. If it wasn't so loose (and I occasionally had to push it back in even if it was REMOTELY unplugged in order for the remote to work some days), then I wouldn't have dropped it. There, a defect. Case closed. So there, it wasn't my "stupidity", it was in fact Apple's poor judgement on as to how tight they need to have the headphone jack.
# 14 Re: Ow!
Oh, and:
Originally posted by djducat
Is it any wonder why we pay so much for stuff these days. Dealers and manufacturers probably jack up the cost of equipment to deal with people who lie and return products.
Um, no. Sorry, buddy, I know you're trying to make me feel dumb, but I'm not going to that easily. Stores don't jack prices because people return stuff. Stores CANT do it, in fact, it'd be against some form of law to.
So I'm surprised from some of your reactions. So much for cheering for the underdog. I accidentally drop my iPod because of a flaw in design, and you want me to pay for a new one if I don't want all those scratches on it? I wouldn't have bothered trying to exchange it if the reason why my iPod fell wasn't so blatantly stupid. I thought that even pulling the jack out oh-so-slightly and the remote wouldn't work was bad...it turns out it was also the cause of me dropping my iPod? For future reference, I wasn't throwing it up in the air and catching it, either, or dangling it off my cord...I pulled it out of my shirt pocket using the cord ever so gently, about to grab the top with my hand, then BAM!...out pops the headphone/remote. Whee. Now my iPod has a big gouge in it. You tell me that it was "my stupidity" that that happened.
# 15 Re: Ow!
Originally posted by burnbomb
So there, it wasn't my "stupidity", it was in fact Apple's poor judgement on as to how tight they need to have the headphone jack.
If that makes you feel better about it...
Nowhere in Apple's literature does it say the headphone cord is a strap for the iPod. Like I said, it's a lot easier to blame someone else for our own errors than it is to accept responsibility and learn from it.
# 16 Re: Ow!
Originally posted by burnbomb
Oh, and:
Um, no. Sorry, buddy, I know you're trying to make me feel dumb, but I'm not going to that easily. Stores don't jack prices because people return stuff. Stores CANT do it, in fact, it'd be against some form of law to.
No, no law. Stores can charge whatever they want for items. There are some regulations on how much they can ADVERTISE a price but that's set by the manufacturer, not the law.
So I'm surprised from some of your reactions. So much for cheering for the underdog. I accidentally drop my iPod because of a flaw in design, and you want me to pay for a new one if I don't want all those scratches on it? I wouldn't have bothered trying to exchange it if the reason why my iPod fell wasn't so blatantly stupid. I thought that even pulling the jack out oh-so-slightly and the remote wouldn't work was bad...it turns out it was also the cause of me dropping my iPod? For future reference, I wasn't throwing it up in the air and catching it, either, or dangling it off my cord...I pulled it out of my shirt pocket using the cord ever so gently, about to grab the top with my hand, then BAM!...out pops the headphone/remote. Whee. Now my iPod has a big gouge in it. You tell me that it was "my stupidity" that that happened.
Well, yeah... pretty much. You're not the "underdog" in this one. Let's say you buy a car and a week later wrap it around a tree while talking on your cellphone. Is that a flaw in the design of the tree, the car, or the cellphone? You f-ed up, scratched/gouged your iPod, then wanted to return it? I guess the fact they took it back shows the store is kinda stupid, too, so it's their loss, and in the end, it's ours, too. It'll go back to Apple, and THEY will have to pay to fix it, which in the end, raises prices, which are passed along to the stores, then to you and me.
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Not exactly, there buddy. Now why haven't video games jumped in price? Sure, some prices are expensive to begin with, but I haven't seen over 80 bucks for a game. Now, because of piracy, or "liars, cheaters and thieves", why haven't these games gone up? Or the price of new CDs? Hmm? I bet all you guys download MP3s off a P2P application...and you call me a thief. What about all consumer electronics? Apple isn't going to jack the price on an iPod because I took it back.
I used to be able to take my MD player and pull it out of my pocket with the remote cord. That remote cord, however, was like the 3rd gen iPod's cord: it had a second input for the remote. Much sturdier. And YES, as I was saying before, the headphone jack is waaaay too loose for comfort. There'd be times where I'd listen to it with it in my backpack, using the remote, and all of a sudden the remote wouldn't work. I'd check it, and it would not seem to be out whatsoever. I'd apply slight pressure, recheck the remote...and boom, it'd work. What a crock. True, I lied about the battery life, but if I would have said "The headphone jack is too loose", they would have told me that was the design. Well, that's a flaw there, bucko. On second thought, maybe I could get them to check the jack, they may just ignore it, or may take it into account. They have been on and off with a lot of stuff that various customers I know have purchased things from there.
Edit: Quite a few people have been having problems with the sturdiness of the headphone jack, not just me. Sure, it doesn't say we can use it as a strap, but it sure as hell doesn't say "Oh, and by the way, the remote'll come out at completely stupidly random intrevals." I've read threads here in which some people have accidentally dropped their iPods and it dragged on the ground by the headphone/remote cord and scratched the cord. That's one thing, but obviously mine was #### loose if it wasn't even able to be gently pulled out of my breast pocket, let alone quickly fall to the ground and be dragged 5 feet on the ground.
# 18 Re: Ow!
More updates:
When I took it back today to see the guy that sold it to me to look at getting it exchanged, it all went smoothly. When I told him about the "battery not being up to snuff" he didn't seem to mind. But when I told him about the real problem I had with the remote jack, he gave me an odd look and said "Whaaaat? That shouldn't be happening..". I formatted the iPod so I couldn't actually show him the problem physically, but oh well. I'll be getting a replacement 15 gig 3rd gen iPod, paying the 100 or so dollar difference. I figure, what the hell. Then I'll get more support out of Apple, as well. Oh, and I won't be dropping this one...I'm buying iPod armor with it :P
# 19 Re: Ow!
I never cease to be amazed at the human capacity to rationalize.
# 20 Re: Ow!
I never cease to be amazed at human ignorance.
# 21 Re: Ow!
You can call me ignorant, if that is what you truely feel, but the comment makes little sense. I was simply pointing out my disgust with what you did. You clearly do not have an ethical problem with the fraud you commited (yes, it IS fraud). I do.
Or maybe you ARE bothered by it. Go back and read each of your posts. The story changes each time you respond, in order to present your case better. Maybe you are feeling guilty about it, which is why I made the "rationalize" comment.
And no, to answer your question from earlier, I do not download illegal music. Never have. I pay for what I want to own, and I do not make others pay for my own accidents or mistakes.
This whole episode is a sad commentary on society today.
# 22 Re: Ow!
djducat:
just do like I have done, and quit responding to him. he'll never "get it", no matter how hard you try. Like you, "I never cease to be amazed at the human capacity to rationalize."
# 23 Re: Ow!
The ironic part about this thread is that we are talking about a device on which most of us (and yes, that includes me) have a mixture of legal and pirated music. I am not accusing any of the parties involved in this thread of anything, just making an observation. If ANY of you have no illegally obtained music, then I apologize if any offense is taken.:cool:
baggss at 2007-11-15 15:34:16 >
# 24 Re: Ow!
It's funny how uptight a you two get. Oh, and "ignorant" does not mean "stupid". It means "uneducated". You were "uneducated" in the sense that you were not standing next to me observing how my iPod was dropped and how ridiculous it was. You are just making assumptions, saying that I am a fraud. Not so. I'm striking back at Apple, making them pay for my scratched up, gouged iPod because of the loose headphone jack. Apple is not a perfect company. Look at some of the things they have done to customers around the forums. I'm not surprised that Apple would not give me a new iPod even if I showed them exactly why my iPod dropped.
How did I change my story every time? First I said that I dropped it, then I explained how I dropped it and then how you could look at it from a perspective in which it most defenitely could be Apple's fault. Sorry, I guess I should include in there when you told me that I was stupid for dropping it, and that it was all my fault. Uptight much? The world is not perfect. You tell me who the fraud is, a company that makes certain parts of their product inferior, or not up to standard so that there's an accident waiting to happen (and not bother sending the owner a new one if the accident does happen), or the guy who drops his iPod by both pure accident and because of a flaw in design. Hmmmmm...
tough choice. You can think about it for as long as you need, ok?
Take this scenario into consideration (Imagine this happening to you):
You have your iPod on a stack of books on a table. The books are on the edge of the table, but not overhanging. You happen to have a very clumsy Great Dane (or Alaskan Malamute, or Rottwieler, or some sort of big dog). He comes running to you to say "Hello", skidding on the floor and bumping the table. The books start sliding, the iPod starts falling, and BAM!, you catch it by the cord. But, because the jack is not tight enough to hold the headphones in properly (this is a 2nd gen, keep in mind), the iPod comes loose and crashes to the floor. Who's fault was it? Yours? (You'd BETTER not say it was your fault...) The dogs? The books? Nope. Apple's. I'm being serious here, by the way. It's the DESIGN I'm getting at. I'm not just pulling something out of my butt to blame Apple on, but upon closer inspection and past experiences with the remote not working properly even if pulled out a millimeter, it all makes perfect sense.
I know that situation probably won't happen to you, but that's why I said "imagine". For reference, I took my new 3rd Gen and hung it above my mattress, and held it by the remote cord. Snug as a bug in a rug. I even swung it a bit. Sturdy. I'm glad to see they've fixed this problem. But yeah, if you'd only stop seeing me as a fraud because I lied to the store, and see me simply as someone who experienced a very awkward and ironic accident, then maybe you wouldn't be so ####ed uptight. I really didn't think a lot of you would react like that. I know you aren't perfect either, so stop acting as though you are, and that you know everything and you have a squeaky clean lifestyle. I've "got it". However, all I've "got" was you two calling me "stupid" and that I tried to "rationalize". Whatever. I'm talking to a brick wall.
# 25 Re: Ow!
Originally posted by burnbomb
Oh, and:
...I pulled it out of my shirt pocket using the cord ever so gently, about to grab the top with my hand, then BAM!...out pops the headphone/remote.
Ya know, sometime around when I was 11 or so, I learned not to grab things by the cord. ANY CORD! This included not only my (then) state of the art cassette player, (the device on which said lesson was learned) but also my radio, the TV, the Toaster, the Hair Drier, the Iron, the living room lamps, the Power Saw (another close brush), the Soldering Iron and ANYTHING else that had a cord attached.
Now based on that learning experience so many years ago, I would NEVER consider grabbing my iPod by the headphone cord (or by the FireWire Cable when connected). I WOULD certainly expect the cord to come out if I did.
For the life of me I can't see how burnbomb's accident was in any way, shape, or form, the fault of Apple Computer. Really.
Somehow this just seem like common sense to me.:rolleyes:
baggss at 2007-11-15 15:36:20 >
# 26 Re: Ow!
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Well, seeing as there would be no other way to grab your iPod, where would you grab it? Or would you let it just fall to the floor, hmm?
If you had a 600 dollar toaster or iron or something, I'd be floored if you didn't go to try and grab it by the cord if it started falling to a concrete floor towards imminent doom!
Common sense has nothing to do with it. I've heard of others having problems with their loose jacks on the forum. So it's no real news to me. But whatever, I'm just going to stop talking. A lot of you assume too quick, and are just being a pain. Call me a thief, a fraud, a cheat, whatever you will. But just remember the next time you litter or run through a stop sign that you yourself are not perfect, either...
Keep in mind, also, that my new iPod's remote is ...*GASP!*...busted. First time I plug it in, no response from the play/pause button, and the forward button sticks. Some quality. Now I had to send it back and wait 2 weeks to get a new one. As I said before, who is the that should be scorned? At least I'm not selling inferior products to people...
# 27 Re: Ow!
Originally posted by burnbomb
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Well, seeing as there would be no other way to grab your iPod, where would you grab it? Or would you let it just fall to the floor, hmm?
Hmmmm...seems you said earlier that you were pulling it out of your pocket by the cord and were just about to grab it when it fell. Seems to me you could have just reached into your pocket and grabed it with your hand. No pulling on the cord was required. Which story is it?
Originally posted by burnbomb
Common sense has nothing to do with it.
No, it seems for you it doesn't...
Originally posted by burnbomb
A lot of you assume too quick, and are just being a pain. Call me a thief, a fraud, a cheat, whatever you will. But just remember the next time you litter or run through a stop sign that you yourself are not perfect, either...
If you go back and read my posts, I have not accused you of being a thief or anything else. Go back and read my first post. I have not claimed to be perfect, I've just pointed out that you need to think before you act. Try taking responsability for your actions. Your little accident was just that, an accident. But to blame the company that made the product is a bit silly. It's like buying a pack of BIC razors and then blaming BIC when you cut yourself shaving (the razors were to sharp, they should have warned me...):rolleyes:
baggss at 2007-11-15 15:38:23 >
